2022 ATP Finals F: [3] Casper Ruud vs Novak Djokovic [7]

[threehandedbackhand]

H2H
Ruud 0-3 Djokovic

Vegas odds
(as of 19 November)

Sources:
atptour.com
oddsportal.com

 

[Soul_Evisceration]

Djokovic in 2 even in his current form.

It's not going to be a close Final IMO.

 

[Kralingen]

Ruud has everything to beat Djokovic.

Big serve, great fitness, great shot tolerance and ability to keep UEs low. His FH has been excellent all week and he’s even found glimpses of a BHDTL. He’s playing his heart out this week. Djoker’s legs are old and heavy, Ruud is as juiced up as he’ll ever be for a match like this.

I still don’t feel confident though…

 

[Terenigma]

Djokovic in 2.

I think Ruud has played fantastic this year and is looking in great form but I just don't think he has enough to take Novak down whom has also looked in great form and has had to beat better players to make the final.

 

[Hitman]

So, these guys ONLY play in Italy?

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Isn't Ruud getting tired of losing in finals? Hes starting to rival Murray and Nishikori here. YEa you get the runner up money but your confidence and self esteem is SHOT

 

[Nadal_King]

Ruud last year did well in 1st set against Djokovic and now is a much better player but this is a final that was rd robin 1. So overall it should be Djokovic in straights 6-3 7-6

 

[Midaso240]

The most boring final imaginable, even Nadal beat Ruud and he's not elite indoors by any means

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Ruud in 3 sets! 4-6 6-3 7-5.

 

[alexio]

The most boring final imaginable, even Nadal beat Ruud and he's not elite indoors by any means

u shouldnt take into account so much that match as a benchmark, it should be obvious

 

[Hitman]

The most boring final imaginable, even Nadal beat Ruud and he's not elite indoors by any means

You actually think Ruud was legit trying in that mach?

 

[tennis_pro]

Unless something unexpected happens Djokovic isn't losing this.

 

[lrdrdy]

Dont feel confident one way or the other, depends on the level Djokovic brings out, dont think he can win with what he showed vs Fritz

 

[BeatlesFan]

It's not going to be a close Final IMO.

Djokovic 6-2, 6-3. He could play his B game and still destroy Ruud.

 

[Winners or Errors]

Here's to a Ruud victory. It'd go a long way towards cementing his position near the top of the game and give the guy all sorts of confidence. I don't see it happening, but how many people on this board thought Ruud wouldn't win a single match here. He gave Rublev the same kind of beatdown that Djoker did, too. I guess we'll have to see. Old guys need to start losing...

 

[Slicehand]

No chance for the wrong novak

 

[Biotic]

Ruud has everything to beat Djokovic.

Big serve, great fitness, great shot tolerance and ability to keep UEs low. His FH has been excellent all week and he’s even found glimpses of a BHDTL. He’s playing his heart out this week. Djoker’s legs are old and heavy, Ruud is as juiced up as he’ll ever be for a match like this.

I still don’t feel confident though…

1.25 - 3.90. Sounds good enough?

 

[Daniel Andrade]

Havent been able to watch Ruud lately, does he have BIG weapons?

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

 

[stringertom]

Here's to a Ruud victory. It'd go a long way towards cementing his position near the top of the game and give the guy all sorts of confidence. I don't see it happening, but how many people on this board thought Ruud wouldn't win a single match here. He gave Rublev the same kind of beatdown that Djoker did, too. I guess we'll have to see. Old guys need to start losing...

The people who thought he wouldn’t win a match here were ignoring his two wins to make the SFs last year. The conditions suit his game and that positive experience from 2021 gave him confidence to straight set red hot FAA in his opening match.

This won’t be a rout tomorrow. The younger, fresher legs will allow Ruud to hang with Djokovic. It’s then going to be decided by whether he can play the big points better than he has in other finals.

Ruud to grind it out in 3.

 

[counterloop]

Djokovic is the GOAT.

I'm not even a fan of his. Nadal is my tennis hero.

I just can't deny the slight difference over FEDAL. He is the better player in crunch time by a small margin.

Of course the total grand slam count is in Nadals favor.......for now.

 

[Bubcay]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593918768769822725

 

[ghostofMecir]

Ruud has everything to beat Djokovic.

Big serve, great fitness, great shot tolerance and ability to keep UEs low. His FH has been excellent all week and he’s even found glimpses of a BHDTL. He’s playing his heart out this week. Djoker’s legs are old and heavy, Ruud is as juiced up as he’ll ever be for a match like this.

I still don’t feel confident though…

He has everything except the “being good enough” part. Djoko in straights.

On that note, it’s a black eye for the sport that this guy has made it to two slam finals and the tour championship final.

 

[Mivic]

There's been some shameful hand-wringing from some of my fellow Djokovic fans over the past couple of days. Novak to make mugs of them again in 2.

 

[Halba]

Djokovic in 2 even in his current form.

It's not going to be a close Final IMO.

Ruud lost to a very past prime Nadal.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

H2H
Ruud 0-3 Djokovic

Vegas odds
(as of 19 November)

Sources:
atptour.com
oddsportal.com

The real question :- how many games for Ruud?

 

[Tennfan123]

Djokovic hubris usually gets punished by the tennis Gods in these kind of finals and Ruud will be their vessel.

 

[Pablo1989]

Ruud in 3. I trust in the Norwegian. VAMOS!

 

[pj80]

So, these guys ONLY play in Italy?

Rome 2020: Djokovic win
Turin 2021: Djokovic win
Rome 2022: Djokovic win
Turin 2022: ? (Hope the pattern repeats)

 

[thepaint19]

Can Djokovic serve 16 aces in 2 sets vs. Ruud? That's what Nadal did for the victory.

 

[Cortana]

Can‘t believe that Djokovic will win after 7 years.

 

[thepaint19]

Can‘t believe that Djokovic will win after 7 years.

He didn't have to face the world #1 or #2, so kind of easy.

 

[Mike Sams]

Can Djokovic serve 16 aces in 2 sets vs. Ruud? That's what Nadal did for the victory.

Ruud allowed it to happen. He put in zero effort against Nadal since he was already in the SF.

 

[UnforcedTerror]

Ruud has everything to beat Djokovic.

Big serve, great fitness, great shot tolerance and ability to keep UEs low. His FH has been excellent all week and he’s even found glimpses of a BHDTL. He’s playing his heart out this week. Djoker’s legs are old and heavy, Ruud is as juiced up as he’ll ever be for a match like this.

I still don’t feel confident though…

I agree with everything you said. I feel like Djokovic needs to bring his absolute best to get the W here, so should he bring his level from the group stage he wins but his level against Fritz won't cut it. Casper is motivated and as fresh as a daisy. May the better man win.

 

[weakera]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593918768769822725

That's crazy. Even in his worst form Nadal is right there lol

 

[weakera]

If Ruud wins today, his loss to Nadal would have cost him over $700,000 USD or over 7% of his lifetime prize money lol

 

[ghostofMecir]

Can‘t believe that Djokovic will win after 7 years.

Helps to play Frtiz and Ruud in the semifinals and final, respectively.

 

[Wesling]

If Ruud wins today, his loss to Nadal would have cost him over $700,000 USD or over 7% of his lifetime prize money lol

Err? There is a 4.7 million dollar bonus for not losing, compared to 1.5 mill win fee if you do lose One match? Unless there is something Im missing it would cost him 3.2 million dollars to tank against nadal

 

[junior74]

You actually think Ruud was legit trying in that mach?

A TT veteran and noted VB'er even said Ruud played one of his best matches ever. Nadal was simply too good.

Gotta love TT

 

[weakera]

Err? There is a 4.7 million dollar bonus for not losing, compared to 1.5 mill win fee if you do lose One match? Unless there is something Im missing it would cost him 3.2 million dollars to tank against nadal

I thought 4.7m was the total prize money if you don't lose? It's a bonus on top of the other wins?

 

[Wesling]

Final win	$2,200,400
Undefeated champion	$4,740,300

 

[Tennfan123]

Casper is a smart guy. He inferred in his interview that 35 year old Djokovic wasn’t the toughest version he could face. He’ll out grind Djokovic and take advantage of being in his prime.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

There's been some shameful hand-wringing from some of my fellow Djokovic fans over the past couple of days. Novak to make mugs of them again in 2.

I’m one of them this week I admit. I really hope he makes a mug of me again like you say! Go Novak!

 

[weakera]

Final win	$2,200,400
Undefeated champion	$4,740,300

So if Ruud wins, the Rafa match cost him over $2.5 million!?

 

[Milanez82]

That's crazy. Even in his worst form Nadal is right there lol

Rafa dead last on serve and return, no wonder he lost first 2 matches

 

[Red Rick]

So if Ruud wins, the Rafa match cost him over $2.5 million!?

No, you basically get paid per match in this tournament. The final alone is worth $2.2M.

The Nadal match was worth 383k whether Ruud wins the final or not

 

[puiacalin91]

if he has patience in the rallies like Daniil does and comes with a high first serve percentage he takes the title . easy to say , hard to execute.

 

[ChrisRF]

Isn't Ruud getting tired of losing in finals? Hes starting to rival Murray and Nishikori here. YEa you get the runner up money but your confidence and self esteem is SHOT

I don't think so. It's rather the contrary: You realize that you will likely be back in a great final, and that will make you less nervous. Apart from that second place is also a success. But sometimes people act like losing earlier is somehow better for a weird reason.

 

[weakera]

No, you basically get paid per match in this tournament. The final alone is worth $2.2M.

The Nadal match was worth 383k whether Ruud wins the final or not

You seem to be completely incorrect as a 5-0 winner gets a sizeable bonus.

 

[albertobra]

Djoko in 2 relatively easy sets, or Ruud in 3.