2022 Belgrade Final: Novak Djokovic [1] vs Andrey Rublev [2]

Who takes the title and in how many sets?

  • Djokovic 2:0

    Votes: 9 33.3%
  • Djokovic 2:1

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • Rublev 2:0

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • Rublev 2:1

    Votes: 4 14.8%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .

Bud

Bionic Poster
Then maybe you could do with standing on the other side of the fence sometimes. I’ve only been here since January but have been shocked and surprised at the amount of venom spewed against Rafa, when he wins and when he loses.
Even when he isn’t playing….vile threads about his appearance, his private life, you name it. Fortunately those particular horrors get deleted. Haven’t seen any about Novak in that regard.
From my perspective it’s the other way around. But then we both see this through a different lens.
Any “scum of the earth” posters exist in all the fan bases. Most are reasonable people.
The bottom line is that none of the rabid, insulting posters do their fan bases any favours.
Welcome to the last 17 years here :laughing:
 
B

Beerus

Guest
This is the Djok0vid fanbois think would have defeated Nadal in Australia? :-D :X3:

Bageled, on clay, at his home tournament by Rublev
The hypothetical scenario is if the deportation never happened. Trauma and stuff.
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
Kind of rooting for Rublev to win RG (although, of course, it's extremely unlikely) just to witness Wimbledon doubling down on banning the current RG champion because - even though he opposes the war and has said so many times - he's still suspected of the thought crime of loving Putin and of the ethnic delinquency of being a Russian.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Like clockwork.

Don't get me wrong, no fanbase is innocent... But this flock in effect after Djoko/Fred losses in order to gloat is what clearly differentiates the Hyenadal clan from the other two.

Few clan members are really scum of the Earth.
The difference is that other fans look for things to gloat about Rafa and continuously make up stories about him, in order to gloat.
 

zuluzazu

Hall of Fame
Like clockwork.

Don't get me wrong, no fanbase is innocent... But this flock in effect after Djoko/Fred losses in order to gloat is what clearly differentiates the Hyenadal clan from the other two.

Few clan members are really scum of the Earth.
LOL at this nonsense victim complex. I have literally seen you spewing nonsense after every Nadal match win or loss. And now you start crying.
 

Biotic

Hall of Fame
LOL at this nonsense victim complex. I have literally seen you spewing nonsense after every Nadal match win or loss. And now you start crying.

LOL at these lies. I'm just spitting facts. I've stayed away from Nadal news/Nadal match threads.
 
17,000 bombs get dropped in a year by the U.S. and this has been going on for years and years. I know you want to believe that there are good guys and bad guys but the reality is there are only bad guys when it comes to imperialism and hegemony. These are war crimes. You can continue to remain ignorant or you can learn the real history. Do you know about Nordstream 2? Probably not because you likely only consume corporate MSM. I get so tired of this. You think you are right but you are deadly wrong. Now go away, I will never agree with you and I am right and you are wrong, period.
Sources?
 

Gt86

Professional
Then maybe you could do with standing on the other side of the fence sometimes. I’ve only been here since January but have been shocked and surprised at the amount of venom spewed against Rafa, when he wins and when he loses.
Even when he isn’t playing….vile threads about his appearance, his private life, you name it. Fortunately those particular horrors get deleted. Haven’t seen any about Novak in that regard.
From my perspective it’s the other way around. But then we both see this through a different lens.
Any “scum of the earth” posters exist in all the fan bases. Most are reasonable people.
The bottom line is that none of the rabid, insulting posters do their fan bases any favours.
Tbing is Nadal since 2008 has been the dominant player. Most Majors won from the least amount played so he has caused more anger to other fanbasss than vice versa. In a way its a compliment. In any sport the greatest are the most despised. Human nature.
 

Rattie

Legend
Tbing is Nadal since 2008 has been the dominant player. Most Majors won from the least amount played so he has caused more anger to other fanbasss than vice versa. In a way its a compliment. In any sport the greatest are the most despised. Human nature.
I like that!
 

Gt86

Professional
Because he's barely played so far. Would not have been the case at the AO.
Djokovic was not winning Australia this year. He was woeful at WTF last year and his stamina has been a noticeable issue since Wimbledon.
Chasing the Calendar Slam was always high risk. It's not just the physical toll.its the mental toll.
 
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Gt86

Professional
Djokovic luck run out a little last set but he is working himself back into form. Nadal vs Djokovic to settle GOAT would be epic. Djokovic would still technically be only level on 21 slams but most people would just say he's GOAT anyway lmao.
No lol. After USO last year every pro I saw said Nadal was GOAT due to his Golden Slam . Djokovic was expected to win one of OG or USO to put him as GOAT but moment he lost both I did not see any reference to him as GOAT.
Might be different if he beats Nadal at RG to go level. However let's be honest If they meet and Nadal is fit a repeat of RG2020 is very likely.
Right now Nadal has other players much more of a threat to him at RG than Djokovic.
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
Djokovic was not winning Australia this year. He was woeful at WTF last year and his stamina has been a noticeable issue since Wimbledon.
Chasing the Calendar Slam was always high risk. It's not just the physical toll.its the mental toll.
What about all the people on here who say Nadal could win the CYGS this year? If it's a high risk even for someone like Djokovic, surely it's a catastrophic risk for Nadal with his injury issues.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
Just watched the highlights. Djoko was in pusher+defense mode for 90% of the match. He was completely devoid of energy. A couple times he went on offense then immediately switched back to defense. That's not going to win tournaments :X3:

He was fortunate (or not) to extend it to 3 sets as he looked completely gassed at 5-5 in set 2.

If he shows poorly (not making at least the SF) at Madrid, Rome and RG, he'll be lucky to be inside the top 20 at the end of 2022.
 

Gt86

Professional
What about all the people on here who say Nadal could win the CYGS this year? If it's a high risk even for someone like Djokovic, surely it's a catastrophic risk for Nadal with his injury issues.
Nadal is not winning a CYGS. If he wins FO I'm not even sure he would go to Wimbledon. Its slightly different as he would have a2 slam lead so realistically its all over so he could just give it a go and see what happens but I cannot see how he would get through 2 weeks at Wimbledon after Madrid Rome and RG of he had deep runs and won RG.
Realistically he would be better off not chasing the CYGS and going to tie the US Open record.
Also I have a feeling there may be a player revolt at Wimbledon as well. The players are very angry.
 

Gt86

Professional
Just watched the highlights. Djoko was in pusher+defense mode for 90% of the match. He was completely devoid of energy. A couple times he went on offense then immediately switched back to defense. That's not going to win tournaments :X3:

He was fortunate (or not) to extend it to 3 sets as he looked completely gassed at 5-5 in set 2.

If he shows poorly (not making at least the SF) at Madrid, Rome and RG, he'll be lucky to be inside the top 20 at the end of 2022.
No reason why he should be so sapped of energy. He played Dubai and a few matches in Belgrade and must also be training.
He looked tired at the Olympics USO and WTF last year as well so clearly there is more going on with him than we know.
 
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Bud

Bionic Poster
No reason why he should be so sapped of energy. He played Dubai and a few matches in Belgrade and must also be training.
He looked tired at the Olympics USO and WTF last year as well so clearly there is more going on with him than we know.
He's been reckless and caught COVID multiple times. He doesn't seem to care much about his health.
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
Nadal is not winning a CYGS. If he wins FO I'm not even sure he would go to Wimbledon. Its slightly different as he would have a2 slam lead so realistically its all over so he could just give it a go and see what happens but I cannot see how he would get through 2 weeks at Wimbledon after Madrid Rome and RG of he had deep runs and won RG.
Realistically he would be better off not chasing the CYGS and going to tie the US Open record.
Also I have a feeling there may be a player revolt at Wimbledon as well. The players are very angry.
Fair enough. Do you think Nadal will ever be able to play RG and Wimbledon in the same year again? It seems like his body can't cope with it anymore, with the short turnaround between the clay and grass season.
 

Rattie

Legend
What about all the people on here who say Nadal could win the CYGS this year? If it's a high risk even for someone like Djokovic, surely it's a catastrophic risk for Nadal with his injury issues.
No one has won the CYGS since Laver. I don’t see either Rafa or Novak achieving this now. It’s an extremely tough ask, open only to the winner of the AO each year. Not happening.
Not that it seems like a big deal to me. Why is winning a slam in a given order important? One of those picky records which doesn’t mean a whole lot other than it’s unusual.
 

Rina

Hall of Fame
Then maybe you could do with standing on the other side of the fence sometimes. I’ve only been here since January but have been shocked and surprised at the amount of venom spewed against Rafa, when he wins and when he loses.
Even when he isn’t playing….vile threads about his appearance, his private life, you name it. Fortunately those particular horrors get deleted. Haven’t seen any about Novak in that regard.
From my perspective it’s the other way around. But then we both see this through a different lens.
Any “scum of the earth” posters exist in all the fan bases. Most are reasonable people.
The bottom line is that none of the rabid, insulting posters do their fan bases any favours.
I am guessing you missed all the vitriol against Djokovic as you are new here? Probably hundreds of threads deleted that were insulting him, particularly during the AO 22 trial and detention?
For gosh's sake, he was detained/arrested for having the same paperwork that allowed several people to enter the country days before he was denied it? He was called a public threat not for his views, but for the public's perception of his views? You missed all that, how come?
You miss the booing of him when playing in the Western countries too? There is, at the moment, no tennis player hated more than Djokovic, much of this is due to Serbo and Balkano phobia.
So, please admit to not knowing what happens even on TTW, as you admit to knowing only the threads of the last two months or so.
I agree with you that some rabid fans are intolerable, but you sound like a rabid Rafa fan in the post above.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
Wait weren’t you saying you don’t care about tennis if it isn’t Rafa last week? Lol

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Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
17,000 bombs get dropped in a year by the U.S. and this has been going on for years and years. I know you want to believe that there are good guys and bad guys but the reality is there are only bad guys when it comes to imperialism and hegemony. These are war crimes. You can continue to remain ignorant or you can learn the real history. Do you know about Nordstream 2? Probably not because you likely only consume corporate MSM. I get so tired of this. You think you are right but you are deadly wrong. Now go away, I will never agree with you and I am right and you are wrong, period.
In war; the victor does the declaring of war crimes! The U.S. until recently, never lost a war until the 1970s and beyond(NATO lead like in Iraq does not count)! The U.S. now is always loosing all it wars because the politicians are so weak and are for the most part total idiots! The U.S. military is so limited in how they fight the battles too while the other side can do anything they want including IEDs!
 

Gt86

Professional
Fair enough. Do you think Nadal will ever be able to play RG and Wimbledon in the same year again? It seems like his body can't cope with it anymore, with the short turnaround between the clay and grass season.
If he wins RG no I don't. I think last time he played more than 3 events back to back without injury was 2019. It seems to me more than 3 weeks tennis in close succession causes him problems. This may frustrate him but it's where he is at. He can still win Majors with little preparation as he has proved. However he doesn't feel like a tennis player doing that and I don't think he will play on unless he can play a fullish calendar. While we fans are obsessed with Majors the professionals actually value all tournaments.
 

Gt86

Professional
He's been reckless and caught COVID multiple times. He doesn't seem to care much about his health.
I've had covid twice. Not vaxxed once. I'm as fit as ever. Djokovic I assume he is fitter than me so I cannot believe covid is an issue
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Rublev was a step too high. He even beat Nadal on clay a year back. Glad to see some young guys step up.
Rublev has all the weapons for winning tournaments but has a tempter that sometimes; gets the better of him and he loose matches because of it!
 

Rina

Hall of Fame
We need to be honest here. Djokovic sabotaged himself with this tantrum. I get it, it is his body, his choice. But, the consequences of not playing till April, with one match in Dubai is huge. He lost the rhythm, the drive, he is not feared. Tennis is a sport where you need matches to keep your level up, you need to play against the best all the time, to be on top. I can be the top dog in practice, but when matches come, the experience is huge. It should not be that difficult for him to beat Rublev, or Kecmanovic, we all know that. But, it can be difficult for Novak that did not truly play any tennis since November 2021.
Still, Rafa came guns a blazing after several injuries and no matches. I am thinking that the psychological effects of being detained, having a trial for all to see, being dragged through the mud, and not in a way he is used to, was extremely hard and it will take a lot of time for him to recover.
 
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