2022 Indian Wells R4: Rafael Nadal [4] vs Reilly Opelka [17]

Who wins?


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Always so pessimistic. You would think Nadal had lost every match this year judging by the posts you make.:p
Just been realistic. I was wrong; that was two very close sets instead of 3. And Rafa didn't have a good returning day; he only broke Opelka once and had 3 minibreaks overall.
 
What's childish is you pretending to be some sort of tennis know it all that thinks he's above everyone else...

The conditions are extremely difficult. Nadal has for the most part backed up his serve well... what else can he do? He played 2 bad service games all match.

On return, the ball coming from Opelka is 1.6M high... and that's with Nadal meeting it standing next to the freaking rolex signs... if he steps in to the baseline to return, that ball is 2.2M high.... nobody is returning 140mph bombs from that height with any efficiency...

Matches against serve bots are extremely difficult to find rhythm and as I've pointed out the conditions, particularly with the dry air and heavy balls makes things significantly tougher...

So in context, @Rattie isn't making an outlandish observation so stop being a *****
Thank you! I couldn’t have said it better.
 
It was a good match from Rafa. Just hope that foot remains ok. But second sets has been an issue here as well as in Acapulco and third sets in AO.
 
Just been realistic. I was wrong; that was two very close sets instead of 3. And Rafa didn't have a good returning day; he only broke Opelka once and had 3 minibreaks overall.
I don’t think anyone except Choccoviche would have returned those monster kickers better than Nadal did today.
 
Serve bots are tough for everyone... including your boy..

He hit 2 unforced errors in the first set genius... 7 in the second set, most in the 2 bad games I mentioned. So much for your observations... I guess proving you have no knowledge or credibility is your forte... :-D

You're just a salty Fed nut and can't handle the reality that Nadal is playing well at 35.5 yrs old...

Weight of shot, bro. Also one bad game against a bot is one too much, although Nadal seemed to get better after that by the end but Opelka should have won the set being up a break, if he had balls. Too bad.
 
Those saves of the double break at 2-4 were the difference between a straight set win and Opelka rolling in the third. Not a tidy win at all.

Now we get the epic QF that seemed highly unlikely at the time of the draw.
 
It will be interesting to see Opelka vs Djokovic at IW. Djokovic returns from close to the baseline. Most of Opelka's serves will go above his head.
 
Even while standing close to the back fence, Rafa barely got to many of Opelka's serve. And in many of those, he jumped off both feet while hitting - not sure why, but I think it's because the serve had some nasty kick/slice that was still curving.
 
Delpo FH is weak
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Weight of shot, bro. Also one bad game against a bot is one too much, although Nadal seemed to get better after that by the end but Opelka should have won the set being up a break, if he had balls. Too bad.

Weight of shot with these balls and in these conditions with an opponent hammering the ball... lmfao... you've got nfi... bro... and there goes all your credibility...

It's almost as if you're commenting on his match with Korda...

" So many unnecessary errors " - " one bad game against a bot is one too much, although Nadal seemed to get better after that by the end"

These two sentences are perfect examples of your bs...

2 UEs in the 1st set... he seemed to get better after being broken... except he almost got broken again in his very next service game (the two I was alluding too obv)

He gave Opelka nothing in the first set and in the second after a bad patch of 2 service games, he raised his level back up and won it. Opelka shouldn't have even been up a break... but of course, Nadal played a terrible service game.

Still nothing justifies your smart arse behaviour toward @Rattie ... it's not like the comment was made to suggest Rafa was playing his best tennis ever which you foolishly compared it to...
 
Weight of shot with these balls and in these conditions with an opponent hammering the ball... lmfao... you've got nfi... bro... and there goes all your credibility...

It's almost as if you're commenting on his match with Korda...

" So many unnecessary errors " - " one bad game against a bot is one too much, although Nadal seemed to get better after that by the end"

These two sentences are perfect examples of your bs...

2 UEs in the 1st set... he seemed to get better after being broken... except he almost got broken again in his very next service game (the two I was alluding too obv)

He gave Opelka nothing in the first set and in the second after a bad patch of 2 service games, he raised his level back up and won it. Opelka shouldn't have even been up a break... but of course, Nadal played a terrible service game.

Still nothing justifies your smart arse behaviour toward @Rattie ... it's not like the comment was made to suggest Rafa was playing his best tennis ever which you foolishly compared it to...

Bro, don't call this good tennis for Nadal lol. How many runs in history were played at a higher level than this? Hundreds. Not great for an ATG, evidently it doesn't need to be with these opponents. Like sure you can do whatever for all I care, it's foolish is all.
 
Man this guy Opelka sucks really badly.
I watched a few games and reminded myself why I shun him.
He's essentially a serve-bot just like the sign the little kid was holding up during the match said. :(
But these days you can get really rich being a bot!
 
Bro, don't call this good tennis for Nadal lol. How many runs in history were played at a higher level than this? Hundreds. Not great for an ATG, evidently it doesn't need to be with these opponents. Like sure you can do whatever for all I care, it's foolish is all.

Like I said... in context he played well. I've already justified that tenfold whilst proving your claims to be utter bs...

Comparing it to the best level of tennis ever produced is just dumb.
 
Like I said... in context he played well. I've already justified that tenfold whilst proving your claims to be utter bs...

Comparing it to the best level of tennis ever produced is just dumb.

In the context that this is Rafael Nadal, known for astonishing defence, ridiculous passes and stunning forehands, no he did not. You're free to choose whatever context you feel suits best, of course.
 
Weight of shot with these balls and in these conditions with an opponent hammering the ball... lmfao... you've got nfi... bro... and there goes all your credibility...

It's almost as if you're commenting on his match with Korda...

" So many unnecessary errors " - " one bad game against a bot is one too much, although Nadal seemed to get better after that by the end"

These two sentences are perfect examples of your bs...

2 UEs in the 1st set... he seemed to get better after being broken... except he almost got broken again in his very next service game (the two I was alluding too obv)

He gave Opelka nothing in the first set and in the second after a bad patch of 2 service games, he raised his level back up and won it. Opelka shouldn't have even been up a break... but of course, Nadal played a terrible service game.

Still nothing justifies your smart arse behaviour toward @Rattie ... it's not like the comment was made to suggest Rafa was playing his best tennis ever which you foolishly compared it to...
When I said he was playing well, it was at the end of the first set when Opelka had only managed to take three points in all of Rafa’s service games and yet Rafa had made inroads on each of Reilly’s albeit not breaking him.
As you said, he was virtually in the stands returning balls at over head height. I made my comment in that context at that moment in the match. As I saw it that was playing well. Appreciate your comments btw:)
 
In the context that this is Rafael Nadal, known for astonishing defence, ridiculous passes and stunning forehands, no he did not. You're free to choose whatever context you feel suits best, of course.

It's 35.5 yr old Rafael Nadal, known for being about 2 steps slower than his peak... still hit some nice passes and fhs...

Again, learn the difference between playing well and playing peak level... I'm sure even you can figure it out...
 
It's 35.5 yr old Rafael Nadal, known for being about 2 steps slower than his peak... still hit some nice passes and fhs...

Again, learn the difference between playing well and playing peak level... I'm sure even you can figure it out...

Yeah so it's not a very good Nadal let's say.
What is well? Sure he's playing well by this field's standards lel. But that is irrelevant. As he is a contender, what should matter is the historical winning standard (with adjusted cross-era comparisons, naturally), which shows the level of tennis normally demonstrated by title winners. By that standard, Nadal isn't playing well at all currently, he's like the worst potential winner. Of course, these have been early rounds and he may improve yet, although it doesn't seem too likely but who knows.
 
Man this guy Opelka sucks really badly.
I watched a few games and reminded myself why I shun him.
He's essentially a serve-bot just like the sign the little kid was holding up during the match said. :(
But these days you can get really rich being a bot!
Opelka has formed a Servebot Club. Monfils tried to join it even showing his stats to prove he qualifies but they say he is not boring he is too much of an entertainer. :cool:
 
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Opelka's solid overall game kept the scoreline close and compensated for his average serve (that's right... Don't fall for the media narrative pushed by commentaors that he is a serve player. I have never seen a tall player with a more average serve)

It's funny reading someone who convinces himself of something other than what's right before his eyes. Of course, Opelka has a very good serve. 22% of all his serves are aces! In comparison, Nadal serves an ace 4% of the time. Opelka wins 71% of service points and 91% of service games. Nadal wins 67.5% of service points and 86% of service games. So if Opelka has an average serve, then he must have better skills than Nadal elsewhere, but he clearly doesn't.
 
Nadal looks injured. His foot is acting up it seems.
This very well might cost him RG 2022. Imagine him limping around and losing again to Novak in the SF/F.
 
Nadal looks injured. His foot is acting up it seems.
This very well might cost him RG 2022. Imagine him limping around and losing again to Novak in the SF/F.
Djokovic is not going to win RG (or the US Open either, but that's another story) and even if he reaches the semifinals, he will arrive exhausted.
He will be easy prey for whoever faces him in that circumstance.
Already 35 years old, his level will decline on all surfaces but especially on clay.
:D
 
Djokovic is not going to win RG (or the US Open either, but that's another story) and even if he reaches the semifinals, he will arrive exhausted.
He will be easy prey for whoever faces him in that circumstance.
Already 35 years old, his level will decline on all surfaces but especially on clay.
:D
Exhausted? From playing 3 matches in 2022? He may not make a deep run but it won’t be from fatigue, it will be from rust. He has at least two 250s he can play as warmup even if border crossing regulations are not relaxed in time (Belgrade and Lyon).
 
Very closely fought match! Only a couple of points decided the tiebreakers! Rafa done this all his life! :) (y)
As expected when a giant serves bombs every single time. Rafa held his side of the bargain well apart from the one slip in the 2nd set when he lost his serve but recovered by miraculously breaking Opelka’s serve.

Opelka went for broke much more than he does against other players because he knew anything less would be certain defeat.
 
It's funny reading someone who convinces himself of something other than what's right before his eyes. Of course, Opelka has a very good serve. 22% of all his serves are aces! In comparison, Nadal serves an ace 4% of the time. Opelka wins 71% of service points and 91% of service games. Nadal wins 67.5% of service points and 86% of service games. So if Opelka has an average serve, then he must have better skills than Nadal elsewhere, but he clearly doesn't.

Only 3 more aces and 2 more double faults than Nadal who isn't a serve player at all. It's not the first match I have seen him play where I felt his serve was overhyped. People putting him in the same league as Isner are crazy.
 
Nadal looks injured. His foot is acting up it seems.
This very well might cost him RG 2022. Imagine him limping around and losing again to Novak in the SF/F.
He did say he was in pain when asked directly about his foot, so this is actually a valid post.
However, his team is aware of the risks and is adapting (no Miami). I'm sure they know Rafa's body better than anyone and will seek a balance of match play and rest try to to peak at RG.
 
Exhausted? From playing 3 matches in 2022? He may not make a deep run but it won’t be from fatigue, it will be from rust. He has at least two 250s he can play as warmup even if border crossing regulations are not relaxed in time (Belgrade and Lyon).
I mean that if the Serb reaches the semifinals of Roland Garros at 35 years old (only three players of that age or older have been able to do it in the Open Era) he is going to lose several sets along the way and when he faces his rival at that stage he will arrive exhausted from the effort.
He is not a natural player on clay like Nadal so as not to suffer passing the rounds and his level compared to last year will suffer a significant drop on all surfaces but it will be even more visible on clay courts.
:D
 
Djokovic is not going to win RG (or the US Open either, but that's another story) and even if he reaches the semifinals, he will arrive exhausted.
He will be easy prey for whoever faces him in that circumstance.
Already 35 years old, his level will decline on all surfaces but especially on clay.
:D
Wishful thinking.
Nadal will always be the favorite vs Novak on clay.
But Novak will not be exhausted. He never is. He is far fitter than Nadal at this stage of their careers. Novak will come with a vengeance after having missed so many tournaments. And if Nadal is less than 100 percent, a repeat of 2021 will happen except it might not be as close as Novak now believes he can beat Nadal at RG.

It will take the very best of Nadal to stop Novak. At 36 years and having overplayed, Nadal is unlikely to play his A game.
 
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It will take the very best of Nadal to stop Novak. At 36 years and having overplayed, Nadal is unlikely to play his A game.

Damn, you are really obsessed about Nadal overpaying. In every post you mention him, you also include his scheduling.

Is this a kind of trolling?

Get this straight. Nadal's foot problem got worse for inactivity during the first year of the pandemic.

 
It's funny reading someone who convinces himself of something other than what's right before his eyes. Of course, Opelka has a very good serve. 22% of all his serves are aces! In comparison, Nadal serves an ace 4% of the time. Opelka wins 71% of service points and 91% of service games. Nadal wins 67.5% of service points and 86% of service games. So if Opelka has an average serve, then he must have better skills than Nadal elsewhere, but he clearly doesn't.

Only 3 more aces and 2 more double faults than Nadal who isn't a serve player at all. It's not the first match I have seen him play where I felt his serve was overhyped. People putting him in the same league as Isner are crazy.

The difference is that I was citing career stats for both Opelka and Nadal and not judging based on the stats of one match. And Isner is one of the best servers ever, so saying Opelka's not in the same league as Isner just means he's average is crazy. As to whether they are actually in the same league, here are their career stats in comparison. Again Opelka in ace %, service points won, and service games won are 22.3%, 70.8%, and 90.6%, respectively. Isner's are 21.1%, 71.7%, and 91.9%, respectively. So not a big difference. Now service points and service games won aren't solely due to serves, so you may think Opelka is just so much better than Isner outside of the serve to compensate, but their similar ace % says otherwise.
 
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