That hybrid creature actually looks better than both lolRafole
2022 Italian Open ATP M1000 - Rome: May 8 - 15
- Thread starter Rattie
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Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
No atleast they are getting that far but it's about time they beat others as well, it's a shame if these 2 are in more sfs in last 4 clay events than Rafa,Novak and Alcaraz still they are way below them in RG odds...maybe you are right they are mugs
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Sinner hasn't won a set against Tsitsipas since 2020.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Zed and Stef will have met in the SFs of every clay court Masters this season.
Bubcay
Legend
Yeah, it says "Finalist". I guess they wanted to show continuity.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
The two most successful clay M1000 players of the season.
No doubt some luck in the draws played a role, but generally they were solid.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I am very surprised he didn't win that match.
LeungD
Semi-Pro
Sinner is from Tirol. Romans are definitely not his home crowd.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Nole-FAA will be even more boring.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
But... But...
Don't passports decide these things? Why bring up his German ethnicity?
Are you suggesting Italians don't accept him as a proper Italian?
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Not even more boring.
The most boring.
It's always dull when the outcome is obvious.
LeungD
Semi-Pro
Stop trolling.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
You mean like this?
On a thread about Putintseva you wanted only to discuss me.
And on several other threads. Any time you find my name, you reply with a troll post i.e. non-tennis related and you want to discuss me instead of Djokovic, Nadal, Sampras...
Trust me, TTW isn't about me, as much as I tend to fascinate you...
TTW is about tennis.
Now if you can, answer why you believe Sinner isn't a home favourite in Rome?
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LeungD
Semi-Pro
Let's not go crazy here
But I'm very discouraged with the semis line-up, I think having another Zverev-Tsitsipas semi is really depressing.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
That would be great for tennis, but it's completely impossible.
I doubt he will even win a M1000 in his whole career.
LeungD
Semi-Pro
Even though you only post background noise, it's still noise. Be quiet please.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
He could beat anybody now standing except Djokovic.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
That sounds like a capitulation.
It's been fun...
Now we can hopefully discuss tennis, huh?
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Shapo is unlikely to get past Ruud, let alone Djokovic or even Citybus/Zverev.
In the contrary, Italians have always loved Austrians.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Well, I’m just saying that it’s not completely impossible, as him beating Nole would be.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
You may call them flaws but they are also what give him that special pop: he has unique, truly extreme mechanics on his groundstrokes and also on his serve, very complex and with almost no margin for error. So it's logical forhim to lose control more than most. Then, of course, there is the mental part.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
What about his feud with Nick?
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
The mental part may originate precisely on that.
His technique is complex and error prone, which causes him to be mentally insecure, as he can’t always rely on his consistency.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
So it might be a vicious cycle.
The technique leads to errors which makes him insecure, and the insecurity leads to executing the technique less well hence more errors.
OK, maybe not a cycle but a no-win situation.
Somebody joked he doesn't need to jump off the ground on every point. That's crazy too. I believe his tennis is geared to be spectacular but self-defeating in terms of big titles and major success.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
Sure. Plus he's also not exactly a MENSA member.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
On court, not. But in interviews he appears to be sharp and witty.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
Ruud returning from the stands and now trying to choreograph the line judges - that Manacor magic is starting to show.
TopspintheTerrible
Hall of Fame
Excellent
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Ruud won the 1st set due to a net roller.
Shapo must be fuming.
Shapo must be fuming.
ojo rojo
Legend
AnOctorokForDinner
Talk Tennis Guru
TB chronology:
0-0 Ruud: unret 1st serve
0-1 Shapovalov: DF (roflmao)
0-2 Shapovalov: unret 2nd serve (weak miss)
2-1 Ruud: unret 1st serve
3-1 Ruud: 1st serve, neutral rally ends with a kinda semi-unforced mishit BH by Ruud
2-3 Shapovalov: 1st serve s&v winner
3-3 Shapovalov: unret 1st serve
3-4 Ruud: 2nd serve, rally ends with Shaps netted FH
4-4 Ruud: unret 1st serve
4-5 Shapovalov: 1st serve+FH
5-5 Shapovalov: 2nd serve, rally ends with a FH inside-out winner by Shap
5-6 Ruud: unret 1st serve
6-6 Ruud: 1st serve, Ruud attacks and finishes at net eventually
6-7 Shapovalov: 2nd serve + strong DTL FH to force Ruud into error
7-7 Shapovalov: 1st serve, rally ends with a lucky dead netcord FH winner for Ruud
8-7 Ruud: unret 1st serve
Close stuff and Ruud got fortunate with the net cord but he was the better player thanks to getting more 1st serves in (7/8 in the TB, only 4/8 for Chapeau) so the result was logical.
0-0 Ruud: unret 1st serve
0-1 Shapovalov: DF (roflmao)
0-2 Shapovalov: unret 2nd serve (weak miss)
2-1 Ruud: unret 1st serve
3-1 Ruud: 1st serve, neutral rally ends with a kinda semi-unforced mishit BH by Ruud
2-3 Shapovalov: 1st serve s&v winner
3-3 Shapovalov: unret 1st serve
3-4 Ruud: 2nd serve, rally ends with Shaps netted FH
4-4 Ruud: unret 1st serve
4-5 Shapovalov: 1st serve+FH
5-5 Shapovalov: 2nd serve, rally ends with a FH inside-out winner by Shap
5-6 Ruud: unret 1st serve
6-6 Ruud: 1st serve, Ruud attacks and finishes at net eventually
6-7 Shapovalov: 2nd serve + strong DTL FH to force Ruud into error
7-7 Shapovalov: 1st serve, rally ends with a lucky dead netcord FH winner for Ruud
8-7 Ruud: unret 1st serve
Close stuff and Ruud got fortunate with the net cord but he was the better player thanks to getting more 1st serves in (7/8 in the TB, only 4/8 for Chapeau) so the result was logical.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Just how far does this Rafalian conspiracy to annoy Djokovic fans extend to?
The edges of the universe or just our nearby Solar Systems?
prairiegirl
Hall of Fame
Shapovalov played an excellent set. I can't fault him. The end of the TB was purely bad luck. It could have gone either way. Rudd wins on the net pushing the ball over.
junior74
Bionic Poster
Ruud had 4 BPs, Shapo just 1. Decent tennis from both, a little passive from Ruud - he is searching for his form out there.
Pmasterfunk
Hall of Fame
Shapo return stats would lead one to believe he's playing Isner out there. It's too bad, because he's not playing terribly otherwise.
Pmasterfunk
Hall of Fame
Shot spot and the actual mark didn't look anything alike
My worldview is shattered
My worldview is shattered
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
Goddamn, he finally did it.
