TheAssassin
G.O.A.T.
Dude's serve continues to be his biggest weapon and biggest weakness at the same time lol...
2022 Madrid Masters SF - (2.) Alexander Zverev vs (4.) Stefanos Tsitsipas
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StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
What did Tsitsipas do except for winning some MC titles with easy draws? Still 0 wins over Djokovic on clay. Even Alcaraz already surpassed him in that.
Zverev is a more dangerous player for all of the big 3.
_phantom
Hall of Fame
It worked
Krish0608
G.O.A.T.
What did Zverev do except win a few irrelevant Madrid titles? What did he ever do in RG lol. Tsitsipas is a RU at RG. Oh, in fact he beat Zverev in RG semi last year.
TheAssassin
G.O.A.T.
We got a third set. Carlos le gusta, no?
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Don’t waste your energy on WeakGruel. He is here purely to distract.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Won Rome in 2017 maybe? Also played a close final in Rome 2018. His general problems in BO5 are known, but when in form, he is a much more dangerous player, especially against the big 3.
Krish0608
G.O.A.T.
BO3 God and BO5 Mug. Yeah we know that about Zverev.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
That Rome 2017 tournament was one of the best Zverev has ever played imo
I think you’re right that his peak is a bit higher than Tsitsipas’s. But where day-to-day consistency is concerned, I think Tsitsipas is definitely the better clay-courter.
Plus, you know, Tsitsipas has the French Open in his favor.
V
Vamos Rafa Nadal
Guest
Isn't it 12:30 a.m. in Madrid?
On to yet another third set decider!
On to yet another third set decider!
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I think Zverev has accepted that as it is. His solution seems to be to just deal with it.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Danger zone for Tsits. He drops serve here, it's all over.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
True.
But a couple of times Alcaraz did have to do double duty and did it successfully. So it's nice that he finally catches a break.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Back when Nadal was still relevant on the surface (not the case anymore) I was always worried about him facing Zverev. That's an opponent who has the game to hurt him.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
You worry about anyone Nadal faces so I don’t know how seriously I should take that admission.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Z defended beautifully. Tsits eventually cracked.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
In the DO conditions definitely. I'm talking about the days when there was still normal clay. Who was the more dangerous opponent for him? The answer is clear.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Would you call the 2019 clay conditions Djokovic Open conditions?
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
That was the transition year. Not exactly what it was before, but the last somewhat normal year. But now even Madrid is a more real clay court than "RG".
TheAssassin
G.O.A.T.
Ngl, the prospect of Mad Lad and Carlos pummeling both of these posers for years and years sounds so stunning.
ibbi
G.O.A.T.
This is just what we need, tbh. First of all, Tsitsipas is Alcaraz's well-established pigeon at this point, so the Zverev match is a more interesting one anyway, but more than that, can you imagine how humiliating it will be for Zverev, who thinks so much of himself, to be humbled by a (hopefully) free-flowing Alcaraz? Like, Stefanos is already a broken man at this point, Zverev came into this year with dreams of being the man.
TheAssassin
G.O.A.T.
I live for the day when someone finally kicks the Philosopher's dad out of the stadium lol...
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
By logic, Zedzilla should win this title. He is still a better player than Alcaraz.
V
Vamos Rafa Nadal
Guest
Glad it's gone to a third set. Unlike Carlos these two will be affected by a three set match and it being so late at night too. I want Carlos to win of course!
_phantom
Hall of Fame
Every tournament now has the extra cost of hiring a Greek interpreter
V
Vamos Rafa Nadal
Guest
Every time they show Stefanos's dad in the stands I probably unfairly like Stefanos less! Really, they should stop showing him in the stands since I can tolerate Stefanos so much better! (;
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
As long as we're tossing people out to the stadium, be sure to include Zedrot too.
V
Vamos Rafa Nadal
Guest
Alcaraz is a way better player than Zverev. People say the dumbest things on here!
Krish0608
G.O.A.T.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I hope Carlos wins as Zverev winning would feel like big vulturing.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Alcaraz still has a lot to prove to be considered better. Wins over Nadal and Djokovic is something Zverev has as well.
Mark-Touch
Legend
In one of the feeds there is a female commentator who hasn't learned the number one rule of commentating yet.
"Never talk during the point!"
"Never talk during the point!"
Jokervich
Hall of Fame
In your opinion, is RG now the Alcaraz Open after his win over Djokovic?
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm not buying the hype. Dimitrov also beat Djokovic in Madrid 2013, but when they met in RG a few weeks later he struggled to put 2 shots in a row inside the court. Let's see what Alcaraz can do in BO5. Right now, Djokovic still looks like a lock to another 3 slam year.
TheAssassin
G.O.A.T.
Zverev the Madrid GOAT in the making lol...
Krish0608
G.O.A.T.
To be honest, Carlos has an unfair advantage over whoever wins this semi.
T
TheNachoMan
Guest
I hope Zverev gives Carlos a beatdown.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Stop these excuses. How old is he? When Nadal was at his age he used to play some epic five set masters finals, and had no problems with that.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Considering that he's already been forced twice this year to do double duty, it's nice to see him catch a break.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Tsits looks like he's reached his ceiling. If he doesn't do something pronto, he won't be winning anything else this year.
ibbi
G.O.A.T.
Seems hard to imagine it even being possible
He's playing much better between the two of them, and is just generally a whole world away from being the guy he was the couple of times that Zverev beat him. More than that, the day time conditions will probably suit him better, he seems to thrive with the crowd behind him, Zverev will probably have more pressure on him, and he's going to have what, 6 hours less rest? Barring injury, Zed would have to go into god mode for it to happen.
Which, admittedly, is possible
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TheNachoMan
Guest
Alcaraz is the babyface tennis needs. Zverev is the heel tennis needs.
Mark-Touch
Legend
Who was that guy who announced his Tsitsi in two pro bet?
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