aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
Alcaraz would play Djokovic in the 4th round, but in a 56-draw tournament such as MC, the 4th round is the QF.
2022 Rolex Monte Carlo Masters: April 10-17
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Rattie
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The Quarter Finals is the round of 16
Forgive Me Father
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You are such a sweetheart honestly.
Not every tournament has the same amount of rounds, so in this case the R3 is the R16.
How old are you though?
Forgive Me Father
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Damn they did my boy Ruud dirty on this one...
Karatsev as your opening match, then Basha or Lajovic/Krajinovic.
Karatsev as your opening match, then Basha or Lajovic/Krajinovic.
Forgive Me Father
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We really need a Korda vs Alcaraz match on clay
We also need a Alcaraz vs Djokovic match on clay
A Sinner vs Coric match would be great
An FAA vs Musetti match is the tennis we deserve
Thanks Tennis.
Some of these are too early though :/
takes the fun out of it.
onefineday
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Picking Ruud.
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Vamos Rafa Nadal
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I have no idea who Lucas Catarina is? He will playing Taylor Fritz in the first round...
Got it about the 4th round being the QF due to the number of participants! Thanks!
Got it about the 4th round being the QF due to the number of participants! Thanks!
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
On clay? If he beats Ruud (or takes a set) he's improved a lot since last year.
Latetothegame
Semi-Pro
Alcaraz is seeded 8, due to withdrawals
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
Hey he randomly won Belgrade 2 that was one of the matches of the year
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Vamos Rafa Nadal
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I know - that's why he has a bye for the first round!
stringertom
Bionic Poster
LOL…QFs by definition is the round with 4 matches with eight players or R8. In a 64-draw (56 with 8 byes), the R16 (called that because of sixteen players) is 3R.
tlm
G.O.A.T.
No he’s at home pouting
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Outstanding draw if you dislike Alcaraz/Djokovic as much as I do, at least one of them won't make the SF
When you dislike a player, you fear the Worst Case Scenario.
What is the Worst Case Scenario? Alcaraz beats Korda.
And what is the solution to that Worst Case Scenario? Djokovic beats Alcaraz, or Alcaraz beats Djokovic..... because I dislike them both equally.
So if Korda loses, my consolation prize is that at least ONE of the TWO players I dislike the most also loses.
And I said Korda has more potential than Alcaraz, not that he's currently better than Alcaraz (although Korda came a lot closer to beating Nadal).
Wow, did Alcaraz hit some lady with a ball already?
Can't believe I missed that.
Rattie
Legend
Yes you’re right, I was just pointing out that what @Vamos Rafa Nadal seemed to be getting confused about was over Djokovic meeting Alcaraz in the round of 16 rather than the ‘quarters‘ as they put it. When in fact they are effectively the same round in this tournament.
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
But they aren't. 3rd round = round of 16, 4th round = quarterfinals in a draw such as MC.
Alcaraz Djoko would play in R4/QF
Rattie
Legend
Yes whatever, just a bit of confusion. I know what I was trying to say but it doesn’t matter.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
This is becoming as confusing as why it’s not 45 in point scoring instead of 40 that follows 15 and 30. Shorthand is the source of the chaos in both cases. Blame it on those lazy Victorians for not being willing to add a syllable for that third point won or lost by a player within a single game. Now GenAcronym has chaos over the unwillingness to use “st”, “nd”, “rd”,”th” and “of” when delineating the stages of a tournament.
The confusion seeps in when it’s referred to as R4. If the “R” is used first it should be referring to the number of players remaining in the draw. it actually is Round of 8 or 4R this week (both rarely used) or QF. At slams and our recent super M1Ks, it should be 4R or R16, not R4.
We all use shorthand and eliminate the consonants between the number and the cap R for 1R, 2R and 3R, what should be the most commonly used proper way to describe the three earliest rounds in a tournament. The other less used but accurate terms are R128, R64, and R32. That is shorthand for Round of 128, Round of 64 and Round of 32, meaning the total amount of remaining players/byes in the draw.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
I blame commentators, who often say round 1, IIRC. "Sinner will face Coric in round 1...."
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Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
That's like saying Med is great on grass because he won Mallorca. No.
Forgive Me Father
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Not really.
And Med is indeed great on grass.
If you think Hurkacz is great on grass, then Med is definitely great on grass.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
I don't even think Hubie is great on grass courts, but he's pretty good. Med is a better player overall, but he's not better on grass than Hurkacz.
His best win on clay is probably Schwartzman in Madrid. And he beat Med on clay. Is Med great on clay, too?
stringertom
Bionic Poster
M-C chooses the oddest scheduling of the M1Ks with four main draw matches on Sunday mixed into the program with the seven remaining qualifying matches.
guanzishou
G.O.A.T.
What do you call the Fokina's haircut? Undercut topknot?
Forgive Me Father
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I don't quite follow the 2nd paragraph, tbh. who beat Schwartzman in Madrid?
Med is not great on clay, no. But if he makes a 2nd RG QF? What would you call that?
Med has been better on grass than Hurkacz for every single year now.
He was one match interruption away from becoming WB champion last year.
Forgive Me Father
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Fokina is hopeless against Joe
Bubcay
Legend
Still fighting - 4:4 in the opening set..
James P
G.O.A.T.
I meant he literally fell down.
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
Lol
He let Hurk escape alive then paid the price. Wimbledon is unforgiving against a good server.
Bubcay
Legend
Sorry, I read it as fail
. The old eyes are not as good as they used to be..
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Vamos Rafa Nadal
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Davidovich Fokina is the first player without a bye through to the second round.
Happy to see Sebastien Baez got through his qualifying match!
Happy to see Sebastien Baez got through his qualifying match!
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Karatsev's best win on clay is against Schwartzman in Madrid.
If Med makes a second QF, I will wonder what his draw looked like. Still, it would be a great result, a tribute to his tenacity. Not ready to call him a clay dog yet.
Don't be ridiculous. He wasn't beating Berrettini and Djokovic on grass. Not last year.
Also, in 2020, Hurkacz lost to Djokovic at Wimbledon. Medvedev lost to clay dog Goffin.
Rattie
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Forgive Me Father
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I do think so.
Especially Djokovic.
Djokovic was much worse than at US Open and played the worst level he ever had in a winning slam.
He just didn't play an elite opponent.
Goffin is not a clay dog haha.
Goffin played his self proclaimed match of his life and it still took a terrible call to swing it in the 5th. The match was outrageous.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, but Med is getting past Berrettini on grass. One of these players eats grass for breakfast, the other is Med.
The problem for Matt is the big 3 have no respect for him. None.
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Vamos Rafa Nadal
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I have heard of all of these except for Hugo Dellien - sounds like a French name to me?
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Vamos Rafa Nadal
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Dimitrov is through to the second round (walkover in his match with Basilashvili)
Forgive Me Father
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These feel like the slowest MC courts ever.
My god.
My god.
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