2022 Rome R16: [1] Novak Djokovic vs Stan Wawrinka

[ADuck]

Gotta lol at the commentator saying this is only Djokovic's 5th tournament this year due to "medical reasons"

 

[initialize]

Hope Stan wins... but if not, at least we'll probably get the luxury of determining who's officially 2nd and 3rd of the GOAT race on Saturday behind Fred

 

[Deleted member 762343]

We both know that the number means nothing in this matchup context.
4-1in the last 5 slam matches.

Yes, if the numbers don't suit your narrative, "they mean nothing" so we gotta cherry pick.

4-4 in slams but let's only include the last 5 slam matches, even the ones where Djokovic was injured because it's more satisfying for me it's more telling somehow.

What's the h2h in slams and slam finals?

"Let's cherry pick even more by counting slam finals even though one has been played on Djokovic's worst surface and the other one against end of 2016 Djokovic with the elbow injury" (of course those matches still count but if you wanna take those ones and exclude the other ones to reach a conclusion, big lol). As for the slam h2h, if a tie is what you consider an ownage then you have a very personal definition of the word which doesn't come close to reality.

 

[Beerus]

 

[NeutralFan]

Gotta lol at the commentator saying this is only Djokovic's 5th tournament this year due to "medical reasons"

Son, It's political reason. Novak was cheated by the corrupt politicians

 

[Third Serve]

lol that’s a nice couple of points to start the match

 

[Adv. Edberg]

6-3 6-1 Djoko

 

[Beerus]

Hope Stan wins... but if not, at least we'll probably get the luxury of determining who's officially 2nd and 3rd of the GOAT race on Saturday behind Fred

Federer is no GOAT.

 

[Bubcay]

Wawrinka making several costly mistakes... Djokovic breaks..

 

[Kralingen]

Well.. let’s just say that could have been a better start from Wawrinka, lol..

 

[20 20 20]

And it begins

 

[initialize]

Federer is no GOAT.

He is, and no true tennis fan would say otherwise

 

[Adv. Edberg]

Gotta lol at the commentator saying this is only Djokovic's 5th tournament this year due to "medical reasons"

Lol, no need to sugar coat it at this point.

 

[NeutralFan]

And it begins

It's over before it begins

 

[Krish0608]

Yes, if the numbers don't suit your narrative, "they mean nothing" so we gotta cherry pick.

4-4 in slams but let's only include the last 5 matches, even the one where Djokovic was injured because it's more satisfying for me it's more telling somehow.



"Let's cherry pick even more by counting slam finals even though one has been played on Djokovic's worst surface and the other one against end of 2016 Djokovic with the elbow injury" (of course those matches still count but if you wanna take those ones and exclude the other ones to reach a conclusion, big lol). As for the slam h2h, if a tie is what you consider an ownage then you have very personal definition of the word which doesn't come close to reality.

Come on you know the look on Novak’s eyes when Stan starts zoning. He’s almost always absolutely helpless and clueless. Nole fans are just lucky that his boogeyman and worst nemesis is not an ATG and is inconsistent.

 

[Beerus]

He is, and no true tennis fan would say otherwise

lol

 

[Third Serve]

dang, match over now

 

[zuluzazu]

Dont think Wawa can win a single point that goes over 5 shots lol. Wawa is so slow

 

[Arak]

I’m afraid this match will be a disappointment. I smell some bakery products in the oven.

 

[NeutralFan]

Come on you know the look on Novak’s eyes when Stan starts zoning. He’s almost always absolutely helpless and clueless. Nole fans are just lucky that his boogeyman and worst nemesis is not an ATG and is 3 years older than him and hit his peak late.

 

[20 20 20]

It's over before it begins

I meant the beatdown, the match always decided

 

[Third Serve]

to be honest what were people expecting? this is Stan’s fourth match on the ATP circuit since his comeback and he’s practically a centenarian these days. And besides, this isn’t a Slam

 

[Deleted member 629564]

"Boys" (37 and 34) are on the court..

Boys started it on clay in Croatia 16 years ago.

Will it end on clay in Italy?

 

[20 20 20]

Who is or would be nole next opponent?

 

[MeatTornado]

to be honest what were people expecting? this is Stan’s fourth match on the ATP circuit since his comeback and he’s practically a centenarian these days. And besides, this isn’t a Slam

Also he looked exhausted after his night match yesterday. He was never going to seriously threaten today.

 

[Kralingen]

Djokovic appears to have slept on a bed of rusty nails staring at a photo of Stan in the RG ‘15 plaid shorts all night, lol.. this is a bit of a beatdown. i do believe Stan will warm up and give us some epic rallies though.

 

[Deleted member 629564]

Who is or would be nole next opponent?

FAA is.

 

[Adv. Edberg]

Commentator: Just once again shows how strong the ATP tour is, even if the top players are 5% below capability, they're beatable.

In releation to Djokos loss to Vesely earlier this year.

Lol

 

[ADuck]

to be honest what were people expecting? this is Stan’s fourth match on the ATP circuit since his comeback and he’s practically a centenarian these days. And besides, this isn’t a Slam

This might be their last match, plus we haven't seen them play in like 3 years

 

[Beerus]

 

[initialize]

Stan looking a little more comfortable

 

[Deleted member 762343]

Come on you know the look on Novak’s eyes when Stan starts zoning. He’s almost always absolutely helpless and clueless. Nole fans are just lucky that his boogeyman and worst nemesis is not an ATG and is inconsistent.

And somehow, Wawrinka was in the zone only in the matches he won but not in the ones he lost. Very convenient. Everyone knows that Peak Wawrinka is very hard to deal with for Djokovic, who needs to be at his best and super focused to win, but trying to force the narrative that Wawrinka is his "boogeyman" and Djokovic is absolutely helpless when he's in the zone is ridiculous. That's just something non Djokovic fans tell themselves to feel better.

 

[NeutralFan]

Stan holds , people need to relax and enjoy some pretty backhand.

 

[ChaelAZ]

He is, and no true tennis fan would say otherwise

He is a tennis great, but not the greatest. No true tennis fan would say otherwise (see, anyone can do that).

 

[ChaelAZ]

Stan getting some bigger strokes in. Might just be a little tight, but hope he can step up.

 

[Third Serve]

I have missed Stan’s “pretty power tennis” on the tour these days, gotta say. Only Thiem really seems to have something like this but not to the same extent.

 

[initialize]

He is a tennis great, but not the greatest. No true tennis fan would say otherwise (see, anyone can do that).

"Fed's either the GOAT, or none of them are" - John McEnroe

 

[Kralingen]

I have missed Stan’s “pretty power tennis” on the tour these days, gotta say. Only Thiem really seems to have something like this but not to the same extent.

To get as much accuracy and spin as he does on that 1HBH is pretty incredible. Thiem can obviously crush the ball but even at his best I always felt like he was kind of hitting and hoping. Stan on the other hand can not only generate his own pace, he can place it on a dime off both wings, with a 1HBH that’s so difficult..

 

[Tennis_Freak99]

Early Stanimal sighting with that point

 

[Beerus]

I want Stan the Man to win Wimbledon before he retires.

 

[Third Serve]

I want Stan the Man to win Wimbledon before he retires.

If he does, will he become an ATG?

 

[ADuck]

Clay really does suit Stan

 

[ForehandCross]

That's the worst outfit Lacoste has made for Novak.

 

[Deleted member 629564]

Djokorinka won 9 out of 12 GSs between 2014 and 2016 with 2015 CYGS in a bag.
Fact.

 

[Beerus]

If he does, will he become an ATG?

6 Slams. We have to be consistent.

 

[Tennis_Freak99]

That's the worst outfit Lacoste has made for Novak.

Its like he has been wearing that for the last few years

 

[onyxrose81]

Stan is a slow starter. It’s when a match goes on that he becomes dangerous.

 

[ADuck]

Oops deleted mistake

 

[Bubcay]

Wawrinka holds with some nice shots. He might not have his old speed and agility but he hasn't forgotten how to hit a ball..

 

[ForehandCross]

All I want before Stan retires is one full fledged Stan the Man showing against a big player anywhere. Slams seem to be a big ask, even a masters would do.