2022 US Open QF: [5] Casper Ruud (NOR) vs [13] Matteo Berrettini (ITA)

Winner and sets?


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James P

G.O.A.T.
Fun matchup of two Next Gen'ers. H2H Ruud leads 3-2, on hardcourt, Berrettini leads 1-0. Who will win this one?
 

dking68

Legend
Berrettini is just better suited for best of 5. I pick him to win in either 4 or 5 sets. If it goes 5 i favor berrettini
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
After 5 sets today it’s going to be critical for Berry to be sharp early. He could win the battle in 5 but will lose the war in the SFs, entering that match on the heels of two consecutive Bo5

When Ruud is serving, Berry needs to be ready for the avalanche of inside-in FHs directed at his backhand. Get the running shoes on to run around a few of them and smack that FH DTL. If he can do that early it will discourage the plan and he can win. If not, Ruud will wear him down and take this.

Berry in 4.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
He has been the most improved player on your in last 12 months but never get mentioned while all the hyped mugs are busy losing in early rounds.

No, most improved is PCB. I would argue Casper isn't even in the running for that title.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Ruud's becoming consistent in slams, he might just win this one.
Yeah, from RG final to another early (2R) exit at Wimbledon. Wimby was a jump up though, being his first career win there.

This is only his third slam result better than 3R (AO’21 4R). Ruud missed AO’22 with an ankle twist during training. So, for two of the four slams he has one win. He needs more than that on the scorecard to be considered a consistent slam contender.
 

dking68

Legend
He has been the most improved player on your in last 12 months but never get mentioned while all the hyped mugs are busy losing in early rounds.
Easy draws. The dude always gets lucky by being placed in a section where the top seeds fall out. Anyways I’ll be surprised if he’s still a top ten player by the end of 2023. He surely won’t be defending those RG and Miami points
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Easy draws. The dude always gets lucky by being placed in a section where the top seeds fall out. Anyways I’ll be surprised if he’s still a top ten player by the end of 2023. He surely won’t be defending those RG and Miami points

He could defend RG, but probably not Miami
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
He has been the most improved player on your in last 12 months but never get mentioned while all the hyped mugs are busy losing in early rounds.
No, most improved is PCB. I would argue Casper isn't even in the running for that title.
The young man from Murcia calls your bets and raises big time. His chips include two 500 titles, two M1K titles, a slam QF, a slam R16 and a rise to top 4 in the world.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
The young man from Murcia calls your bets and raises big time. His chips include two 500 titles, two M1K titles, a slam QF, a slam R16 and a rise to top 4 in the world.

True, Alcaraz is the most improved.

Although I have always felt that it is a hard to compare a young player in a different ranking tier to an established player, since the young player is not defending any points. But that does not change the the facts.
 

Jack the Hack

Hall of Fame
Ruud in 4. Matteo could barely get through the crappier version of Ruud today

I agree. I came here to make the same comment. :)

Matteo Tomato reminds me of Raonic. Tall good looking guy with a big serve, decent forehand, a janky backhand, and heavy footed movement like Frankenstein's monster. I don't find it that fun to watch him play, but he's beautiful in his Boss outfits.

Unless he serves Ruud off the court in tiebreakers, I expect Casper's consistency and speed to break Matteo's suspect backhand down. Ruud has been in better form for most of the year, while Berry has been rusty in all his recent hard court matches. Plus, if ADF didn't tweak his knee in the 5th set, he might have come back to win today.
 

dking68

Legend
True, Alcaraz is the most improved.

Although I have always felt that it is a hard to compare a young player in a different ranking tier to an established player, since the young player is not defending any points. But that does not change the the facts.
I think Sinner would’ve also been in contention but his first half of the season was heavily affected by his injuries . I do believe he would’ve made the RG final injury free, would’ve won Miami and probably had a shot at winning either IW or Monte Carlo or probably beaten Tsitsipas in Rome.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
I think Sinner would’ve also been in contention but his first half of the season was heavily affected by his injuries . I do believe he would’ve made the RG final injury free, would’ve won Miami and probably had a shot at winning either IW or Monte Carlo or probably beaten Tsitsipas in Rome.

Yes, looking at his Wimbledon results alone Jannik could be a candidate, and there is no telling what he could have accomplished with a bit more luck.

Still, Alcaraz has it sown up this year.
 

martinezownsclay

Hall of Fame
Berretini in 4. Ruud is way overrated. People are mocking Berretini going 5 today but Ruud played a guy who played like the lucky loser he did after playing beyond himself to reach this round, and still lost a set to the guy not even playing top 200 tennis, LOL!
 
V

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Guest
I put Casper in 5 but honestly have no idea which of the two will win the match. It could go either way. Casper had an easier opponent today; Matteo had a hard time handling Alejandro. I am hoping for an exciting match with lots of great tennis! :) :) :)
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Berrettini has the win in their lone hard court meeting, at the Open in 2020. However, on form, you have to go with Ruud.
 

dking68

Legend
I think Berrrttini’s build is just more suited for Bo5. Yes Casper will win many bo3 tournaments but at the bo5 level I don’t see it happening. I give Berrettini the win though
 

dking68

Legend
Yes, looking at his Wimbledon results alone Jannik could be a candidate, and there is no telling what he could have accomplished with a bit more luck.

Still, Alcaraz has it sown up this year.
Yes he did but I think Sinner has a higher ceiling and more room for improvement irregardless. By age 24 Sinner will reach his peak, Alcaraz I think he will peak in a year, if not already
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Yes he did but I think Sinner has a higher ceiling and more room for improvement irregardless. By age 24 Sinner will reach his peak, Alcaraz I think he will peak in a year, if not already

How did you come up with your timelines? I do think Jannik's trajectory is different, but his rate of improvement is already very high.
 

dking68

Legend
How did you come up with your timelines? I do think Jannik's trajectory is different, but his rate of improvement is already very high.
Just looking at their sheer physical development and how developed their game looks. Alcaraz I don’t see how much more his game can improve from his current game, the only thing I can see improving for him is his serve. But his height limits him significantly so I doubt it will improve that much. Sinner on the other hand, many variables can improve, the drop shot, the first serve percentage, shot selection and more importantly his physical development. I think once he reaches his full physical development he will be devastating in the future
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
I think Berrrttini’s build is just more suited for Bo5. Yes Casper will win many bo3 tournaments but at the bo5 level I don’t see it happening. I give Berrettini the win though

Berrettini has faced more injuries over the course of his career. However, his peak is higher than Ruud's. The question is which Berrettini will show up on Tuesday.
 

dking68

Legend
You agree @Aabye5 ? I still believe up to this day Sinner has a higher peak and more room for improvement. Even asked couple friends at school and they believe also
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
You agree @Aabye5 ? I still believe up to this day Sinner has a higher peak and more room for improvement. Even asked couple friends at school and they believe also

I am curious to see how long it will take. Sinner is very impatient, which has worked in his favor so far...but perhaps it is also the reason for his injuries? :unsure:

However, with Cahill and Vagnozzi working in tandem, maybe they can accelerate his rise? Still, your prediction is realistic.
 

dking68

Legend
I am curious to see how long it will take. Sinner is very impatient, which has worked in his favor so far...but perhaps it is also the reason for his injuries? :unsure:

However, with Cahill and Vagnozzi working in tandem, maybe they can accelerate his rise? Still, your prediction is realistic.
Yeah maybe, I’m just happy with the progress he has made with his serve
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
No, most improved is PCB. I would argue Casper isn't even in the running for that title.


No, most improved is PCB. I would argue Casper isn't even in the running for that title.

PCB was already a bronze winner. Rudd was busy losing in first or second round at HC tournament but now he's getting the results against good players. Didn't he beat Hubi in masters? and now he's in qf of a HC slam, he made final at RG. People can cry about weak draws.
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
Sadly for my agenda, Matteo is not in good form right now. Ruud will have too much here. Still think Matteo is the higher peak player tho.
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
If Kyrgios is in the SF, would like Ruud to win this. Just for the grudge match.

Kyrgios got really motivated in IW against Casper Ruud.
 

Nadal - GOAT

Hall of Fame
I will go with Ruud in 4. Berrettini is just not playing very well right now and his BH is exploitable. Also Ruud will be fresher considering his quick R4 opposed to Berry's 5 setter.

I am hoping for a Ruud-Kyrgios SF which will be epic given the war of words going on between them.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
PCB was already a bronze winner. Rudd was busy losing in first or second round at HC tournament but now he's getting the results against good players. Didn't he beat Hubi in masters? and now he's in qf of a HC slam, he made final at RG. People can cry about weak draws.

No, he didn't win against Hurkacz in Canada. On that note, what is his biggest win this year on hard courts?

And in that final, he was promptly dismissed.
 
A very difficult match to call. I feel Ruud I’d playing the better tennis but Berra had more experience and better success at slam level. I’ll go Berra in 5 but wouldn’t be surprised if ruud wins.
 
V

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Guest
I give the edge to Berrettini. They have both made it to one Grand Slam final. Matteo had covid and couldn't compete at Wimbledon this year. I like both players immensely and will be happy either way but I think Berrettini has more fire power and if the match is at all close he will manage to homestretch better than Casper. But I am fine if Casper wins too!
 

Wesling

Semi-Pro
it will be an honor to see the year end #1 take on the olive garden host, who has graciously been given the day off from serving "The Tour of Italy" - so that he can serve in the flushing meadows
 

dking68

Legend
The serve is still a work in progress, as we are seeing in today's match, but he is not afraid to try out new things. Much like the big 3.
In the nakashima match i was impressed. But i think the humid conditions today are affecting his and Ivashka's serve
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
Based on level in the matches I've seen, I have Ruud as favourite. Just seems more solid and hits pretty heavy from both wings. Berrettini has a higher top level with his great serve and forehand combo, obviously.

The forecast says rain all day, closed roof is ad Berrettini.

Casper in 5. Better physicality and more solid overall.
 
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