Mark-Touch
Legend
It's a toss up.
2022 US Open - Women's Singles Discussion
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James P
G.O.A.T.
Three semi finals in the last five majors. It wasn't long ago people were wondering if she'd ever break her quarter final duck. If it wasn't for the early season serve yips, she might have done better at Australia and Roland Garros. I still think she's a future titleist at the majors.
Mark-Touch
Legend
Yeah I hear you.
But given the absolute weirdness of the two semi's I'm expecting it to carry over to the final as well.
I have no idea how it will turn out at this point.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Wimbledon not awarding points really stuffed this up.
We would've had this final featuring #1 Swiatek v #2 Jabeur if Wimbledon had given Jabeur her finalist points. Instead she was the 5th seed here. Thus denying the WTA their first slam final between the #1 and #2 dating back to the 2018 Australian Open where #2 Wozniacki defeated #1 Halep.
We would've had this final featuring #1 Swiatek v #2 Jabeur if Wimbledon had given Jabeur her finalist points. Instead she was the 5th seed here. Thus denying the WTA their first slam final between the #1 and #2 dating back to the 2018 Australian Open where #2 Wozniacki defeated #1 Halep.
martinezownsclay
Hall of Fame
True. Betting odds though aren't based in absolutes. They are meant to sucker people to some extent. I mentioned that about Kygrios being made betting favorite, even before Nadal went out. Or Murray being betting favorite over Djokovic going into the 2011 Australian Open final (ridiculous).
martinezownsclay
Hall of Fame
Hopefully. This is a similar trajectory to Davenport, who has a very similar game. Hopefully it might wind up the same way (although 3 majors would seem a stretch for her at this polnt).
martinezownsclay
Hall of Fame
I think that is summed up perfectly.
D-Lite
Hall of Fame
I've just noticed on the WTA Tour, the YEC will be in Fort Worth, Texas, 2 weeks after a 1000 event in Guadalajara where last year's YEC was held - interesting. I had assumed the WTA 250 in Guadalajara in February was the replacement for last year's YEC on this year's calendar. I'm glad they have a 1000 event there now as the crowds seemed really packed at last year's YEC.
As for the USO Final, I am going to back Ons Jabeur. After her run to the Wimbledon final, I think she's ready to take it all in NYC especially against a Swiatek who is not seemingly invincible like she was during her 37-match winning streak. Another note in tournaments later this year - there is one in Tunisia and also Estonia. This must be due to the interest generated by Jabeur and Kontaveit over the past 2 years as I don't remember these being on the calendar previously?
As for the USO Final, I am going to back Ons Jabeur. After her run to the Wimbledon final, I think she's ready to take it all in NYC especially against a Swiatek who is not seemingly invincible like she was during her 37-match winning streak. Another note in tournaments later this year - there is one in Tunisia and also Estonia. This must be due to the interest generated by Jabeur and Kontaveit over the past 2 years as I don't remember these being on the calendar previously?
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
welldone WTA replacing events in China + Russia.
D-Lite
Hall of Fame
It would have been cool if they made Tokyo or Seoul a 1000 also, but maybe another season. Tokyo did used to be a 1000 I am sure but then became a 500.
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Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
Garcia the favorite ehhh? Gonna beat swiatek ehh? Anytime some random mug becomes the favorite over some fluke hot streak you can be best assured they will mentally implode before the end. Pressure changes everything
ScottleeSV
Hall of Fame
Sabalenka can at least say she had the match in the palm of her hand. Garcia just never turned up (either that or she woke up, finally).
Jabeur to win the final, but I'm not confident in that or anything.
Jabeur to win the final, but I'm not confident in that or anything.
MiamiWeekendWarrior
Hall of Fame
Ok, so that's about 50 lbs. I guess I was just confused as I don't consider that to be extremely low tension for poly.
volleyandfun
Hall of Fame
Her normal tension is 54 lbs, and you are right, it's kind of high for poly. I use 45 lbs with the same string on 18/20 pattern mid sized racquet and I love it.
Devil_dog
Hall of Fame
The lowest tension on a contemporary pro's racquet I've heard about is from Adrian Mannarino who supposedly strings at 11kg or about 24 lbs. Now that's low!
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I wasn't surprised Garcia didn't win, but the degree to which she didn't show up was shocking. But, it was a nice summer run - winning Cincy and making the USO SFs.
volleyandfun
Hall of Fame
Wimbledon (nor any other tour organizer) doesn't award points, WTA and ATP do.
ttwreader
Hall of Fame
25kg is about 55 lbs. She uses a little low tension to deal with the light US Open ball. When she played her night matches, the ball got a little bit heavier so I think that's the reason she switched to a little more tension racquets.
In Cincy, at the start of her last 4 games that she won (being down 0-5 in the second set) in the match she lost to Keys, she switched to 25/26.
tennis4me
Hall of Fame
Meanwhile in Junior US Open final: #2 Havlickova (CZE) vs #10 Eala (PHI). They may be the future up-and-coming WTA players. Havlickova won this year's Roland Garros Junior Singles and Doubles titles (with Sára Bejlek who made her US Open main draw debut this year). Eala won Junior GS doubles titles (AO 2020, FO 2021) - she was featured in Rafa Nadal Academy documentary in Amazon Prime - so I guess she must be one of their top promising students.
Both probably has room for improvements before they'll make an impact in the main WTA tour. Havlickova is a big hitter with big serves. She's quite a bit taller than Eala. Eala needs to improve her serve, but she seems to be a problem solver - I see a few of her matches where she was behind and came back to win the matches. She has good defense.
Both probably has room for improvements before they'll make an impact in the main WTA tour. Havlickova is a big hitter with big serves. She's quite a bit taller than Eala. Eala needs to improve her serve, but she seems to be a problem solver - I see a few of her matches where she was behind and came back to win the matches. She has good defense.
Mark-Touch
Legend
Thanks. First time hearing Sab talk.
I was impressed with how candid she was and her proficiency in English.
I think everyone here knows that her only real issue is the mental side.
I don't know if she'll ever be able to fix that.
James P
G.O.A.T.
2005 crop is loaded. Those two, plus Victoria Jimenez Kasintseva, Linda Fruhvirtova, and Petra Marcinko.
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
Tiafoe won that first set on 41 percent first serves. I have never seen anything like this.
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
Good luck to Carlitos if he can’t do anything with tiafoe’s second serve.
James P
G.O.A.T.
Wrong thread homie
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Honestly torn on the result I want.
I want Swiatek to stamp her dominance on the sport becoming the first player to win 2 slams in one year since Kerber in 2016.
But, I really want Jabeur to continue to break records as the first African and Arabic player to win a slam following her amazing few years and the Wimbledon run. I just love Jabeur and what she does for the sport.
I want Swiatek to stamp her dominance on the sport becoming the first player to win 2 slams in one year since Kerber in 2016.
But, I really want Jabeur to continue to break records as the first African and Arabic player to win a slam following her amazing few years and the Wimbledon run. I just love Jabeur and what she does for the sport.
Mark-Touch
Legend
One tie-break for a $2 mil. bagger!
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Time for the updated list of majors winners (not named the now retired Serena) since 2010:
Schiavone: FO - 2010
Clijsters: USO 2010 & AO 2011
Li Na: FO 2011 & AO 2014
Kvitova: Wimbledon 2011 & 2014
Stosur: USO 2011
Sharapova: FO 2012 & FO 2014
Azarenka: AO 2012 & 2013
Bartoli: Wimbledon 2013
Pennetta: USO 2015
Kerber: AO 2016, USO 2016 & Wimbledon 2018
Muguruza: FO 2016 & Wimbledon 2017
Ostapenko: FO 2017
Stephens: USO 2017
Wozniacki: AO 2018
Osaka: USO 2018, 2020 & AO 2019 and 2021
Barty: FO 2019, Wimbledon 2021 & A0 2022
Halep: FO 2018 & Wimbledon 2019
Andreescu: 2019 USO
Kenin: AO 2020
Krejčíková: FO 2021
Raducanu: USO 2021
Świątek: FO 2020 & 2022 and USO 2022
Rybakina: Wimbledon 2022
Although the tour still features a number of multi-major winners, its so competitive that I do not see a clear, runaway force at the majors--certainly not from the performances in this final.
Schiavone: FO - 2010
Clijsters: USO 2010 & AO 2011
Li Na: FO 2011 & AO 2014
Kvitova: Wimbledon 2011 & 2014
Stosur: USO 2011
Sharapova: FO 2012 & FO 2014
Azarenka: AO 2012 & 2013
Bartoli: Wimbledon 2013
Pennetta: USO 2015
Kerber: AO 2016, USO 2016 & Wimbledon 2018
Muguruza: FO 2016 & Wimbledon 2017
Ostapenko: FO 2017
Stephens: USO 2017
Wozniacki: AO 2018
Osaka: USO 2018, 2020 & AO 2019 and 2021
Barty: FO 2019, Wimbledon 2021 & A0 2022
Halep: FO 2018 & Wimbledon 2019
Andreescu: 2019 USO
Kenin: AO 2020
Krejčíková: FO 2021
Raducanu: USO 2021
Świątek: FO 2020 & 2022 and USO 2022
Rybakina: Wimbledon 2022
Although the tour still features a number of multi-major winners, its so competitive that I do not see a clear, runaway force at the majors--certainly not from the performances in this final.
Mark-Touch
Legend
I'm glad she won it, but I didn't like the way she drooped in the 2nd set! 
I like her, but I'm not a big fan of hers.
I like her, but I'm not a big fan of hers.
Mark-Touch
Legend
Why the 2010 cut off?
Don't you short change players who won slams before your arbitrary cut-off?
zvelf
Hall of Fame
Yes, Iga's is the most dominating year any WTA player has had since 2013. 7 titles including 2 slams and bakery products left and right.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Mcnally's revenge ?? she gets to the final with taylor townsend. i guess she was the better player when she was with COCO
I missed why coco switched to pegula. Anyone know? TLDR version
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Iga can play a lot better and still won. That's the scary part
zvelf
Hall of Fame
I missed why coco switched to pegula. Anyone know? TLDR version
McNally wasn't qualifying for singles in enough tournaments to show up for doubles only whereas Pegula was.
Thanks! That makes sense.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Probably One of the BEST matches going on right now at the US open this year.... who would have thought it's in women's doubles final ... LOL
1. all you amateurs men actually can learn a ton from watching this pair who's up a set against possibly one of the best power doubles pair in history of tennis.
*** One super nice tip from commentator box,,,, HOW to read Topspin lobs ? if your opponent has slow take back or backswing, slower than usual,,,, they are probably setting up for Topspin lob, unbelievably nice tip, that can be very useful in high level doubles*** i actually did not know that.
1. all you amateurs men actually can learn a ton from watching this pair who's up a set against possibly one of the best power doubles pair in history of tennis.
*** One super nice tip from commentator box,,,, HOW to read Topspin lobs ? if your opponent has slow take back or backswing, slower than usual,,,, they are probably setting up for Topspin lob, unbelievably nice tip, that can be very useful in high level doubles*** i actually did not know that.
Russeljones
Talk Tennis Guru
What's the name of the fat one?
tennis4me
Hall of Fame
Interesting to hear Townsend's acceptance speech. Something like, "I put in the work", "everyone can see", "I deserve to be here". It's like a hidden direct message to Patrick McEnroe, the interviewer. Townsend, as many knows, split with the USTA development program after it refused to pay for her expenses after Patrick made comments about the then teenager Townsend's fitness. Some past bad blood there. Parents of many top junior players were happy when Patrick was elbowed out as Player Development head.
ScentOfDefeat
G.O.A.T.
Great stuff from Krejcikova/Siniakova. Not many people talk about them but they're slowly entering the GOAT doubles conversation (and they're still in their 20s).
Good for her. I can’t believe they put him out there to do the trophy ceremony!
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