2022 Wimbledon QF: Novak Djokovic vs. Jannik Sinner

Who wins?


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mike danny

Bionic Poster
And Federer fans like you believe that Roddick was a "worthy" rival for his idol with the head to head 21 to 3 in favor of the Swiss and an 8 to 0 in GS tournaments, the last one well remembered for the choke of the American.
:laughing::giggle::-D
Wimb 2004 and Wimb 2009 are better efforts from Roddick than any of the Next Gen's vs Djokodal. Looks like it will stay that way.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Wimb 2004 and Wimb 2009 are better efforts from Roddick than any of the Next Gen's vs Djokodal. Looks like it will stay that way.

Certainly they were better matches, but you will recall that grass was likely Roddick's best surface.

Sinner played Djokovic on Nole's favorite court, and his own worst surface.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
I agree with everything you said. Although Medvedev belongs in that list as well. His win against Novak was a massive fluke. His real mental ability was shown in the AO final.

There are no flukes. He won that match, because Nole had a long year. Not Med's problem.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Your right not to... I think he played great. Novak was just better..
don-t-give-me-excuses-give-me-results.jpg
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Yeah it’s legit. But it’ll always be viewed like Thiem’s USO. Especially because of his AO choke.

No, Thiem's USO was more problematic. Among other things, he was not playing the big 3. And yet the score would make you think it was a big battle. He couldn't even take advantage of a bigger choker than himself.

Med, on the other hand, still had to actually close the door on Nole, even if it was a beaten up and weary Nole.
 

Martin J

Hall of Fame
No, Thiem's USO was more problematic. Among other things, he was not playing the big 3. And yet the score would make you think it was a big battle. He couldn't even take advantage of a bigger choker than himself.

Med, on the other hand, still had to actually close the door on Nole, even if it was a beaten up and weary Nole.
Yeah, no matter what people think of Med (and I was very disappointed with his attitude in the fourth set against Nadal at the AO), his performance against Novak was incredible, had a clear plan and was clutch all the way and never blinked.
 

mightyrick

Legend
Most NextGenners can't seem to handle Bo5. They're good for 2 sets but asking them to win a 3rd seems a step too much for them. :cool:

It isn't their fault. The older guys were raised playing best-of-five in the Masters and Year-End Championship. But in the latest era, nobody has to play best-of-five except in slams... which is a joke in my opinion. The younger guys get absolutely zero experience playing best-of-five outside of slams. And that experience is critical. I actually think the lack of exposure to best-of-five is one of the reasons that the younger gen players have had difficulty breaking through in slams. Very little best-of-five experience.

And let's face it... playing best-of-five in practice against a hitting partner is nowhere near the kind of test required to learn how to handle the pressure and hold your level.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Wimb 2004 and Wimb 2009 are better efforts from Roddick than any of the Next Gen's vs Djokodal. Looks like it will stay that way.
You yourself said it before with Sinner's performance: efforts but no results.
Roddick would have liked to have won one of those finals but he didn't, despite having an unbeatable chance in 2009.
The American failed miserably.
:(
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
You yourself said it before with Sinner's performance: efforts but no results.
Roddick would have liked to have won one of those finals but he didn't, despite having an unbeatable chance in 2009.
The American failed miserably.
:(
It's worse not having results against mid 30's Djokodal than prime Federer.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Certainly they were better matches, but you will recall that grass was likely Roddick's best surface.

Sinner played Djokovic on Nole's favorite court, and his own worst surface.
At the same time Roddick also played Federer at the latter's best slam and surface. Sinner didn't play Djokovic at the AO.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
At the same time Roddick also played Federer at the latter's best slam and surface. Sinner didn't play Djokovic at the AO.

But Djokovic still has a commanding 6 Wimbledons? That's almost as many as Sampras.

Roddick never played Federer at the French Open. I doubt it would be as close.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
But Djokovic still has a commanding 6 Wimbledons? That's almost as many as Sampras.

Roddick never played Federer at the French Open. I doubt it would be as close.
Djokovic at Wimb is still not Djokovic at the AO. It's not a like for like comparison.
 
Djokovic’s six Wimbledons mean we should give Sampras another 3 titles so things look proper and right. But not Federer because he and Djokovic played in the same era.
:p
 

dking68

Legend
And Andre destroyed 20-year-old Federer.

Who had the better career, at the end of the day? Safin or Federer? :unsure:
It’s not about how you start or how much you achieve at a certain age. It’s how you finish. Kyrgios beat nadal at 19, and what has he achieved?
 

Martin J

Hall of Fame
He didn’t choke, you clearly didn’t watch the match.
True, he didn't have even a half a chance after the second set. And he did dig pretty deep to get out of the abyss after being a break down in the first (had to save a BP if I recall, too).

Still, a bit disappointing that he couldn't match Novak as soon as he raised his game (decreased the unforced errors and started serving really big).
 

dking68

Legend
True, he didn't have even a half a chance after the second set. And he did dig pretty deep to get out of the abyss after being a break down in the first (had to save a BP if I recall, too).

Still, a bit disappointing that he couldn't match Novak as soon as he raised his game (decreased the unforced errors and started serving really big).
It’s his 8th match in his career on grass. He will figure out a way to win soon, I anticipate he’s the next multiple WB winner after Novak
 

Martin J

Hall of Fame
It’s his 8th match in his career on grass. He will figure out a way to win soon, I anticipate he’s the next multiple WB winner after Novak
He surprised me with the level he's been playing on during this Wimbledon, didn't expect such a serve - return performance. And he's been moving quite well on the surface, so he definitely has a potential.
However, until I see him really achieving something significant, won't keep my hopes up. Don't really trust these kids anymore, lol.
 

dking68

Legend
He surprised me with the level he's been playing on during this Wimbledon, didn't expect such a serve - return performance. And he's been moving quite well on the surface, so he definitely has a potential.
However, until I see him really achieving something significant, won't keep my hopes up. Don't really trust these kids anymore, lol.
I think hes gonna go deep deep at US open, possibly even win it
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
A lot of positives for young Sinner, from not winning a match prior to this edition of Wimbledon to taking 2 sets of the defending champion, there’s no shame.

I think there's some shame - not making any of the last three sets competitive. But, overall big picture, there's a lot of positives.
 
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