2022 Wimbledon SF: Nick Kyrgios vs Rafael Nadal [2]

Your prediction:

  • Kyrgios 3-0

    Votes: 20 13.1%
  • Kyrgios 3-1

    Votes: 39 25.5%
  • Kyrgios 3-2

    Votes: 13 8.5%
  • Nadal 3-2

    Votes: 11 7.2%
  • Nadal 3-1

    Votes: 40 26.1%
  • Nadal 3-0

    Votes: 8 5.2%
  • Nadal withdraws

    Votes: 22 14.4%

  • Total voters
    153
  • Poll closed .

prosperned

Professional
Nadal will have a scan. He’ll pull out if there’s a tear. I would prefer he pulls out and gets himself fit for US. He has a great chance given the play he’s shown since his foot operation
 

flyingboris

Legend
I actually wrote tilde as a Spanish word. I should have written that word in italics because of that.
I don’t know how to say that word in English, maybe because there are not tildes in English.
Haha, incredible! Umbelleebable almost. In English a 'tilde' is specifically this: ~ But it seems like in Spanish languages "tilde" means anything above letters the aigu / acute symbol.

Anyway, back on topic, can't wait for this match. Although sadly I doubt I'll be up at 5:30am Pacific on Friday.
 
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Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Haha, incredible! Umbelleebable almost. In English a 'tilde' is specifically this: ~ But it seems like in Spanish languages "tilde" means "anything above letters". Live and learn. I hope. Anyway, back on topic, can't wait for this match. Although sadly I doubt I'll be up at 5:30am Pacific on Friday.
Tilde in Spanish is the same symbol as l’accent aigu in French, though they represent different things.
Spanish has only one other sign above letters called diéresis, as in pingüino.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Nadal will have a scan. He’ll pull out if there’s a tear. I would prefer he pulls out and gets himself fit for US. He has a great chance given the play he’s shown since his foot operation

He was already carrying a tear since 1st day with patches on his abs and all tears heal in 5-6 weeks so it won't make it any worse if he plays.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
It’s probably not even a big tear. The guy’s gonna play and i will be shocked if he pulls out and doesn’t give it a go.

I pointed out during first round match that he had trouble bending ( sign of an abdomen tear /strain) and yeah tear can be managed with injection. Why not give it one last time against Novak? he's playing great off ground.
 

flyingboris

Legend
Tilde in Spanish is the same symbol as l’accent aigu in French, though they represent different things.
Spanish has only one other sign above letters called diéresis, as in pingüino.
Maybe I just saw it in a sueño, but I could swear I've seen another symbol above letters in Spanish words. :) Añyway! I'm clearly out of my depth here, and way off topic. Adios amigo, gracias por educarme.

.. and apologies to those who had to make the effort to skip this sidetrack. :)
 
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Guest
The Astérix are already there.
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Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Maybe I just saw it in a sueño, but I could swear I've seen another symbol above letters in Spanish words. :) Añyway! I'm clearly out of my depth here, and way off topic. Adios amigo, gracias por educarme.
Yes, you’re right. I forgot considering that sign over the letter n, which forms another letter, the ñ.
But that tilde (English meaning here) is an integral part of the letter ñ.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
“Porque” in that sentence is not written with tilde, so write properly if you like to write in other languages.
You're right, the rush to write immediately made me write it the wrong way, though that's no excuse.
(y)
 

Kralingen

Bionic Poster
Kinda ridiculous. Bookies just keep underrating Rafa these days. No wonder @Kralingen has that Lambo on layaway.

Edit: Whoops, you were talking about the poll. But bookies also have Nick favored from what I’ve seen.
Bookies are really scared of Rafa's injuries. That is the only plausible explanation for the joke lines he's gotten both in matches and in futures.

And to be fair, watching today, it looked like the bookies got it spot on. He is literally one step away from catastrophe in every match.

On the other hand, I think they clearly underrate his will to win and improvisation with his back against the wall. Also... I think Cotorro will have him fit and firing for the SF, just a hunch of mine. The bookies don't take into account the extra day of rest which is HUGE for Rafa at this age.

Like zoom out a bit. Nick Kyrgios is the favorite to take 3 sets from Rafa in a Slam SF? Really? Even a less than 100% Rafa?
 

Wynter

Legend
Bookies are really scared of Rafa's injuries. That is the only plausible explanation for the joke lines he's gotten both in matches and in futures.

And to be fair, watching today, it looked like the bookies got it spot on. He is literally one step away from catastrophe in every match.

On the other hand, I think they clearly underrate his will to win and improvisation with his back against the wall. Also... I think Cotorro will have him fit and firing for the SF, just a hunch of mine. The bookies don't take into account the extra day of rest which is HUGE for Rafa at this age.

Like zoom out a bit. Nick Kyrgios is the favorite to take 3 sets from Rafa in a Slam SF? Really? Even a less than 100% Rafa?
The last time he beat Nick without dropping a set was 2017 and Kyrgios came through relatively unscathed in less than 2 hours while Nadal is almost a deaths door. There's logic to it in a few aspects though I'd still have Nick as the outsider
 

Kralingen

Bionic Poster
The last time he beat Nick without dropping a set was 2017 and Kyrgios came through relatively unscathed in less than 2 hours while Nadal is almost a deaths door. There's logic to it in a few aspects though I'd still have Nick as the outsider
Don’t get me wrong, it’s a close matchup and Kyrgios knows how to play Rafa well.

their IW match this year was high quality and entertaining, and I especially enjoyed their AO 20 match which hinged on a couple key points. Ones that Rafa always seems to end up winning…

but fundamentally I disagree Nadal is almost at death’s door. You may think that, you may be worried the injury has worsened, and that’s totally fine. But imo bookies get too easily spooked by Nadal’s injuries. French Open was a perfect example of this. Giving him 2.75 odds on Philippe Chatrier. What an absolute joke.
 

BlueB

Legend
He was already carrying a tear since 1st day with patches on his abs and all tears heal in 5-6 weeks so it won't make it any worse if he plays.
Of course he made damn sure to make everyone aware of his imaginjury. It's a win-win scenario for him. Especially when there ware prospects of playing Fritz, Nick, Djoker, back to back.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Of course he made damn sure to make everyone aware of his imaginjury. It's a win-win scenario for him. Especially when there ware prospects of playing Fritz, Nick, Djoker, back to back.

Well like your Eastern European God healed 25 mm tear with in 48 days magically?lmao you EE fans are absolutely cringe and hilarious.
 

BlueB

Legend
Well like your Eastern European God healed 25 mm tear with in 48 days magically?lmao you EE fans are absolutely cringe and hilarious.
He learned it from Rafa. Difference is that Rafa had lost that OG match, so he could use it only as an excuse. Novak won, so his is classified as a distraction.
We are still to find out if the current Rafa's would become an excuse, or remain a distraction.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
He learned it from Rafa. Difference is that Rafa had lost that OG match, so he could use it only as an excuse. Novak won, so his is classified as a distraction.
We are still to find out if the current Rafa's would become an excuse, or remain a distraction.

Lmao difference is your Serbian hero can magically win the whole tournaments with 25mm while Rafa never won any tournament with such injury. Lmao you Belgrade brigade have reached another delusion then wonder why noone likes him outside your Eastern Europe.
 

BlueB

Legend
Lmao difference is your Serbian hero can magically win the whole tournaments with 25mm while Rafa never won any tournament with such injury. Lmao you Belgrade brigade have reached another delusion then wonder why noone likes him outside your Eastern Europe.
Lmao this, lmao that... Won the RG with bery, bery sore foot.
I'm Vancouver brigade, BTW.
 

BlueB

Legend
Well, since you are a EE Novac fan so not much educated. There's difference between injury and disorder. Name a tournament where Rafa won with a tear or injury, just one ?? Only your Serbian God can do that , what a faker he is, faking injury , faking niceness ,faking everything then you guys cry whey noone loves our Serbian Hero. Lmao.
Lmao, reported for racism.

Rafa uses the imajinjuries as preemptive excuse and distraction. When he wins with them, it boosts his warrior/superhuman image.
Sometimes he fabricates them after the fact, though.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Lmao, reported for racism.

Rafa uses the imajinjuries as preemptive excuse and distraction. When he wins with them, it boosts his warrior/superhuman image.
Sometimes he fabricates them after the fact, though.

What racism? Like injury your don't understand racism but expected lol. Victim card is out again? So, you can't give me a slam where Rafa won With injury like your Serbian Hero? Okay, move on.

Well, majority of his EE fans are anti v@x and conspiracy theorists here, do they even hide it?lmao.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Racism is a prejudiced opinion based on race/nationality. "EE so not much educated" fits just fine. There's a bit of education for you...

Well, son i am not prejudice against anyone and i can't be racist since i am an egalitarian leftist guy not ultra nationalist like Djokovic and you guys and there's nothing racist about calling most Novak fans from EE uneducated since they hold conspiracy theory and anti vaccine views, can't differentiate between injury and disorder . I didn't call all of EE uneducated ,there are many awesome educated poster from EE who don't happen to be Novak fans. So , your accusations are as fake as 25mm year.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
I have done the same! That poster is full of hate and bigotry hopefully the admin here do the right thing and finally ban him for good from this forum

What hate? Calling antivaxers , science denier nutjob from a certain fan base is not hate ,for a change ask Serbian Djokovic fans to be act like nutjob anti science , conspiracy theorist instead of calling me a hater lmao . Look at your post towards Nadal and you will know what's hatred :D :D
 
And you're not a hater? U r a hater first then a fan(if u r even)
It's one thing to be a fan or a hater of a player, another thing is to dehumanise a whole fanbase like that guy is doing with every other post. According to the guy all the Djokovic fans are Serbians, thus uneducated, neanderthals, nutjobs, antivaxxxers, conspiracy theorists and what else not. If that's not racism, then I don't know what it is. ;)
 

PSNELKE

Legend
Kyrgios is going to do everything that Fritz wouldn't/couldn't. Unlike Fritz, he is not going to hit to Nadal's FH. Kyrgios has the slices, drop shots, off speed shots to hurt Nadal, make him run and wear him out. If he really has some sort of injury, Kyrgios could win this in straight sets
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
Kyrgios is going to do everything that Fritz wouldn't/couldn't. Unlike Fritz, he is not going to hit to Nadal's FH. Kyrgios has the slices, drop shots, off speed shots to hurt Nadal, make him run and wear him out. If he really has some sort of injury, Kyrgios could win this in straight sets

Kyrgios is not better from the baseline than Fritz. He may be more crafty and better at the net but he is not better equipped to expose Nadal's injury. Kyrgios is where he is because he has a god-level serve when he is in the zone and the stats say as much, he is #3 on the tour in serve rating for the last 52 weeks, better even than Berrettini. If Fritz had Kyrgios' serve he would win grand slams.

Kyrgios was being outdone from the baseline even by Nakashima. He hasn't been in great form all week long.

With all of that being said - if Rafa is hurt, Kyrgios can win. He brings his best against Nadal but Kyrgios will need to find that best level again, he hasn't been there in this tournament.
 

Adv. Edberg

Legend
Nadal will have a scan. He’ll pull out if there’s a tear. I would prefer he pulls out and gets himself fit for US. He has a great chance given the play he’s shown since his foot operation

I think so too. He'll never beat Djoko anyway and there's no points to gain and he has more than enough money. Better to hope that Djoko decided not to play USO and then Nadal can maybe win it if he's fit.
 

Cheese&IPA

New User
If Nadal has to serve like yesterday he has little to no chance, Kyrigos wont drop his serve as often as Fritz did and we saw how easy it was for Nadal to be broken against Fritz.
 
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