2023 Australian Open R128: [13] Matteo Berrettini vs Andy Murray

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Berrettini 3-1 Murray
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Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
Berrettini in 4. He's too good of a player to lose to current Murray although I don't expect it to be an easy match for him. Probably a very tight first 2 sets and then I expect him to see off in 2 more comfortable sets. Will be a good match to watch though! Probably one of the better R1 matches to catch along with Rublev vs Thiem.
 

Zardoz7/12

Hall of Fame
Murray really needs to raise his ranking to be seeded at slams, you don't run into Matteo in a first round of a slam or a 3rd round as was the case at the US Open.
 

Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
Murray really needs to raise his ranking to be seeded at slams, you don't run into Matteo in a first round of a slam or a 3rd round as was the case at the US Open.

Murray is 35 and still playing after hip surgery. A surgery that would be the end of most sporting careers and yet he's still ranked inside the top 50. In the world. I think he's doing just fine personally.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Murray is 35 and still playing after hip surgery. A surgery that would be the end of most sporting careers and yet he's still ranked inside the top 50. In the world. I think he's doing just fine personally.
I see his glass half full too. Add in a beautiful wife and kids. Set for life financially. That’s all good but he just lost 17 ranking spots, now down to #66 in live rankings. Obviously, without the UUUGGGEEE upset of Berry, he’s going to remain about 500 points shy of seeding at RG and then Wimby.

What should his path be to climb back into top 30? Play 250s with a few 500/1000s (may need qualies or WC for 500s) indoor or outdoor, USA or Europe; clay in SA? First up on the schedule after AO are Dallas and Montpellier 250s (indoor HC) and Córdoba on clay down South. Then there’s Delray (outdoor 250), Buenos Aires (clay 250) or Rotterdam (indoor 500).

#DecisionsDecisionsDecisions
 

Zardoz7/12

Hall of Fame
I respect Murray's contribution to tennis, I was so happy when he got to number 1 even though I criticise the way he plays, if there was a time where Murray should just hit hard, let rip from the forehand side now is the time, try to finish more points off via the net. Hit a harder second serve.

Matteo would be shocked if Murray dictates play rather than let his opponent dictate the play, you have to take the racket away from Berrettini in order to beat him.

I'm not fond of "but he has had a career changing hip operation" as an aside, when you step out on court you're fit to play, there are no excuses, we've been through this when Nadal played injured, when he stepped out on court he's 100% in regardless of issues. Sometimes you have to put sentiments in the draw and focus on the one thing we all played tennis for either professionally or amateurly, to win.
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
I see his glass half full too. Add in a beautiful wife and kids. Set for life financially. That’s all good but he just lost 17 ranking spots, now down to #66 in live rankings. Obviously, without the UUUGGGEEE upset of Berry, he’s going to remain about 500 points shy of seeding at RG and then Wimby.

What should his path be to climb back into top 30? Play 250s with a few 500/1000s (may need qualies or WC for 500s) indoor or outdoor, USA or Europe; clay in SA? First up on the schedule after AO are Dallas and Montpellier 250s (indoor HC) and Córdoba on clay down South. Then there’s Delray (outdoor 250), Buenos Aires (clay 250) or Rotterdam (indoor 500).

#DecisionsDecisionsDecisions
He could play challengers to get those critical points
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
He could play challengers to get those critical points
Now that he has dropped from top 50 he would have more latitude to go that route with less restrictions. For example, if he chose the Dallas/Delray combo of 250s he could play Cleveland Challenger (indoor) as a warmup. In the long run, playing a full calendar of Challengers instead of sprinkling in a few via a late WC is very tricky because he will be on the cusp of that top 50 exclusion on Challenger participation. It’s a tough way to plan a playing/travel schedule.
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
Now that he has dropped from top 50 he would have more latitude to go that route with less restrictions. For example, if he chose the Dallas/Delray combo of 250s he could play Cleveland Challenger (indoor) as a warmup. In the long run, playing a full calendar of Challengers instead of sprinkling in a few via a late WC is very tricky because he will be on the cusp of that top 50 exclusion on Challenger participation. It’s a tough way to plan a playing/travel schedule.
I'm not aware of the actual rules. Top 50 player can't enter a challenger?
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
I think Andy can have one good push and take one set, but Matty will have the other three. No matter the score I see Andy trying to be OVERLY demonstrative in this match and lots of f bombs. And then some small thing that Andy will have to turn into a MAJOR issue. Maybe a controversial MTO or bathroom break.
 
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They've played 3 tiebreaks so far in H2H matches. All of them won by Murray.
Murray just needs to hold his serve.
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
I respect Murray's contribution to tennis, I was so happy when he got to number 1 even though I criticise the way he plays, if there was a time where Murray should just hit hard, let rip from the forehand side now is the time, try to finish more points off via the net. Hit a harder second serve.

Matteo would be shocked if Murray dictates play rather than let his opponent dictate the play, you have to take the racket away from Berrettini in order to beat him.

I'm not fond of "but he has had a career changing hip operation" as an aside, when you step out on court you're fit to play, there are no excuses, we've been through this when Nadal played injured, when he stepped out on court he's 100% in regardless of issues. Sometimes you have to put sentiments in the draw and focus on the one thing we all played tennis for either professionally or amateurly, to win.
Difference between Murray and Rafa is that Murray never reached the same level after coming back - Rafa is more like a mummy. He may be slightly down for a while but we all know the resurrection is coming
 
Alas, this version of Murray won't beat Berrettini. I think we all know this. :(

Shouldn't but Berrettini is a super erratic player, and seems to be going downhill of late too, so you never know. He definitely doesn't seem on the upswing like he did about a year ago.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Shouldn't but Berrettini is a super erratic player, and seems to be going downhill of late too, so you never know. He definitely doesn't seem on the upswing like he did about a year ago.
2022 was an injury-filled year for Berry but he is healthy for now and looked strong the past two weeks, going 3-2 in United Cup singles. Only Tsitsipas and Fritz topped him. Both were tight matches.
 

jl809

Hall of Fame
I am so ****ing hyped for this match. No injuries for Andy and Lendl in the box. Nearly beat Berry at the US Open on a quicker court and surely won’t repeat his mug tactics again
 
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