2023 Miami Open ATP Masters 1000 Quarter final :- Carlos Alcaraz Garfia (Spain) [1] versus Taylor Harry Fritz (United States of America) [9]

[Topspin_80]

I haven't seen some level of "tennis IQ" that stands out compared to other highly ranked players. And as much as that is a real thing, it's still not the most complicated sport in terms of tactics. The guy is super fit and not afraid to go for crazy shots (which he seems to be hitting more often than not lately). Let's not make it into something more than it is.

If you think it is that simple, perhaps you should start playing tennis, you can make it big time!!!!!!!!!!!

Because I'm sure you don't play tennis otherwise you'd know how difficult is doing what he does.

 

[Baseline_Bungle]

Did you watch the kid at 15? I did, he played just the same, and was beating 30 years old at challengers, was he under heavy doping then?

Hey, buddy, buddy, easy there! Are you trying to get this thread canceled too? Who said anything about doping??? We're talking about SCIENCE here! After all, we know for a fact that he's had his own sports and fitness doctor since age 8, Dr. Juanjo Lopez, that he also consults with Rafa's supreme scientist Angel Ruiz-Cotorro, and that he's had plasma infiltrations and transfusions since his early teen years - all of that is public domain! And to answer your question: yes. In fact, I saw him live in my hometown in late 2019 - he lost 6-1 in the third to Stefano Napolitano and he was tiny. But thankfully he was then able to quickly add 20 lbs of monster muscle thanks to carbohydrates, as his staff kindly explained. TRUST THE SCIENCE!

Carlos Alcaraz's stunning body transformation from skinny kid to muscle machine

CARLOS ALCARAZ has gone from skinny kid to a bulging muscle machine – and is still only 19. The Spanish teenager has already enjoyed huge success in tennis and can secure his first Grand Sla…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[Topspin_80]

Honestly, some of these ridiculous comments are the reason why there is push back on Alcaraz.

Maybe you didn't notice that Sinner beat Alcaraz twice last year, including at win at Wimbledon? Maybe you forgot that their epic USO match was super tight, and easily could have gone the other way?

Maybe you forgot that Kyrgios has a winning h2h vs Djokovic.

Does that make Kyrgios equal or better than Djokovic.

The same thing with Alcaraz and Sinner.

 

[jma22]

LOL what can I say... I'm an idealist and long for a clean and honest world. Certain signs are so obvious to anyone who knows their sht, but most people have no interest in seeing them. And I guess THAT is what really drives me nuts... the suspension of disbelief.

xD what a hater . We know you xD If it's Fed who dominates the tour.. all alright. If it's Nadal or Alcaraz you see ¨signs¨

 

[dking68]

Maybe you forgot that Kyrgios has a winning h2h vs Djokovic.

Does that make Kyrgios equal or better than Djokovic.

The same thing with Alcaraz and Sinner.

Sinner will step up and beat Raz once he starts serving better, believe me. More room for improvement for Sinner

 

[Topspin_80]

Its not about brains, its about intuition, do you play tennis man?? I would say you dont play a lot

I just replied him the same thing, I don't think he plays tennis.

Long time ago, but I still remember, people that didn't play tennis thought that McEnroe volley was something that everybody
could do it, because John made it look so simple, but then whoever plays tennis knows how difficult that is.

In short, that dude does not play tennis, just a couch expert.

 

[Topspin_80]

Sinner will step up and beat Raz once he starts serving better, believe me. More room for improvement for Sinner

That is in the realm of possibilities, but remains to be seen.

Tomorrow, a fresh Sinner with an extra day of rest can take advantage.

 

[Baseline_Bungle]

What is obvious is that you don't know anything at all about that murky business.

If you knew something, you'd know that nobody under 22 yo would take the staff you are insinuating.. because that produces
stunt growth, doctors can give him or anyone under 22 other things but not what you are insinuating.

When you say that kind of things, you come across like an ignoramus, and only other ignoramus like you will agree.

Do yourself a favor, do some research before posting that kind of accusations.

I've been researching these things for 20-plus years. You can resort to insults if you wish, but comments like yours sound exactly like the ones I was getting back in the day, with regard to certain baseball and cycling stars, and only help reinforce my beliefs. The official narrative eventually proved me right back then. It probably won't now, because the interests riding on some stuff are too high. But I'll sleep well regardless.

By the way, this ignoramus would like to point out that the plural of "ignoramus" is "ignoramuses" or "ignorami"

Cheers.

 

[DariaGT]

for the Fedal era
Fritz is a beta Safin,
Sinner a stretch version of Davydenko
and Alcaraz is a male version of Serena

 

[Slicehand]

Hey, buddy, buddy, easy there! Are you trying to get this thread canceled too? Who said anything about doping??? We're talking about SCIENCE here! After all, we know for a fact that he's had his own sports and fitness doctor since age 8, Dr. Juanjo Lopez, that he also consults with Rafa's supreme scientist Angel Ruiz-Cotorro, and that he's had plasma infiltrations and transfusions since his early teen years - all of that is public domain! And to answer your question: yes. In fact, I saw him live in my hometown in late 2019 - he lost 6-1 in the third to Stefano Napolitano and he was tiny. But thankfully he was then able to quickly add 20 lbs of monster muscle thanks to carbohydrates, as his staff kindly explained. TRUST THE SCIENCE!

Carlos Alcaraz's stunning body transformation from skinny kid to muscle machine

CARLOS ALCARAZ has gone from skinny kid to a bulging muscle machine – and is still only 19. The Spanish teenager has already enjoyed huge success in tennis and can secure his first Grand Sla…

www.thesun.co.uk

Every profesional sports youngster has his doctors, youre so full of crap, enjoy it

 

[Baseline_Bungle]

xD what a hater . We know you xD If it's Fed who dominates the tour.. all alright. If it's Nadal or Alcaraz you see ¨signs¨

LOL I voiced similar ideas about Federer on this very forum less than 48 hours ago... but you KNOW ME!

 

[Topspin_80]

I've been researching these things for 20-plus years. You can resort to insults if you wish, but comments like yours sound exactly like the ones I was getting back in the day, with regard to certain baseball and cycling stars, and only help reinforce my beliefs. The official narrative eventually proved me right back then. It probably won't now, because the interests riding on some stuff are too high. But I'll sleep well regardless.

By the way, this ignoramus would like to point out that the plural of "ignoramus" is "ignoramuses" or "ignorami"

Cheers.

Now you also have reading problems.

I said other ignoramus like you, why it has to be plural?

Because that's the way you read it then you thought?

The more you post, the more ignoramus you seem.

And only other ignoramus (is singular, not plural what I'm saying) like you would agree with you.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

American men’s tennis as dead as ever. Can’t believe people were actually hyping it come on man these guys are worse than roddick FFS LOL

 

[Slicehand]

We should call the atp inmediatly and inform about this, we got proofs, hes very fast and very strong thus he is on something...

 

[-snake-]

Hypersonic speed like we've never seen on a tennis court - shots that would be clean winners against anyone else, and he's there in a flash, perfectly planted on his feet, smacking it back even harder than it got there.

Inhuman strength and power throughout his upper and lower body, supernatural reflexes, lightning-quick injury recovery time.

6 foot tall and easily serving 140 mph bombs, at 19.

Fresh as a daisy and faster than ever after 4 or 5 hours at max intensity.

Nothing to see here, folks!

Yeah that's all way too Nadalesque, the USO SF opened my eyes. Great talent though.

 

[Baseline_Bungle]

Now you also have reading problems.

I said other ignoramus like you, why it has to be plural?

Because that's the way you read it then you thought?

The more you post, the more ignoramus you seem.

And only other ignoramus (is singular, not plural what I'm saying) like you would agree with you.

LOL, I'm hoping you're not a native speaker because now you are just making yourself look like a fool.

OF COURSE it has to be plural.

As in:

"only other illiterate idiots (plural) would agree with you"

 

[Slicehand]

LOL, I'm hoping you're not a native speaker because now you are just making yourself look like a fool.

OF COURSE it has to be plural.

As in:

"only other illiterate idiots (plural) would agree with you"

Im not a native speaker but "other" doesnt imply plural does it? It can be other car, or other cars

 

[Topspin_80]

I've been researching these things for 20-plus years. You can resort to insults if you wish, but comments like yours sound exactly like the ones I was getting back in the day, with regard to certain baseball and cycling stars, and only help reinforce my beliefs. The official narrative eventually proved me right back then. It probably won't now, because the interests riding on some stuff are too high. But I'll sleep well regardless.

How many baseball and cycling stars under 21 you know?

It's that 0, a big zero.

You can know baseball players and cyclists under 21 , but not stars under 21.

If they are over 22 and they can take peds.

But no one under 21 will take peds, that is doping 101.

20 years doing research???

Really??? Where at your local bar with your homeboys?

LOL

 

[Baseline_Bungle]

Im not a native speaker but "other" doesnt imply plural does it? It can be other car, or other cars

In that case, you would need an indefinite determiner: "only another ignoramus would..."

 

[Slicehand]

In that case, you would need an indefinite determiner: "only another ignoramus would..."

I was just thinking that, never mind

 

[Topspin_80]

Im not a native speaker but "other" doesnt imply plural does it? It can be other car, or other cars

It's a good explanation, full of common sense, as you are not a native

LOL, I'm hoping you're not a native speaker because now you are just making yourself look like a fool.

OF COURSE it has to be plural.

As in:

"only other illiterate idiots (plural) would agree with you"

Yes I'm a native speaker, and it does not have to be plural.

 

[Picmun]

Hey, buddy, buddy, easy there! Are you trying to get this thread canceled too? Who said anything about doping??? We're talking about SCIENCE here! After all, we know for a fact that he's had his own sports and fitness doctor since age 8, Dr. Juanjo Lopez, that he also consults with Rafa's supreme scientist Angel Ruiz-Cotorro, and that he's had plasma infiltrations and transfusions since his early teen years - all of that is public domain! And to answer your question: yes. In fact, I saw him live in my hometown in late 2019 - he lost 6-1 in the third to Stefano Napolitano and he was tiny. But thankfully he was then able to quickly add 20 lbs of monster muscle thanks to carbohydrates, as his staff kindly explained. TRUST THE SCIENCE!

Carlos Alcaraz's stunning body transformation from skinny kid to muscle machine

CARLOS ALCARAZ has gone from skinny kid to a bulging muscle machine – and is still only 19. The Spanish teenager has already enjoyed huge success in tennis and can secure his first Grand Sla…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[Topspin_80]

Im not a native speaker but "other" doesnt imply plural does it? It can be other car, or other cars

It's a good explanation, full of common sense

 

[Topspin_80]

In that case, you would need an indefinite determiner: "only another ignoramus would..."

Other is singular and others is plural.

 

[Baseline_Bungle]

It's a good explanation, full of common sense, as you are not a native

Yes I'm a native speaker, and it does not have to be plural.

So in your native English speaker opinion, the phrase "Only other idiot would agree." is correct?

 

[insideguy]

How many baseball and cycling stars under 21 you know?

It's that 0, a big zero.

You can know baseball players and cyclists under 21 , but not stars under 21.

If they are over 22 and they can take peds.

But no one under 21 will take peds, that is doping 101.

20 years doing research???

Really??? Where at your local bar with your homeboys?

LOL

There have been some great baseball stars under 21. Griffey Jr. Harper, Trout. But not many.

 

[Slicehand]

wait, i think i got it, you could say, i need another car, like saying i need one more, or you could say, i need other car, like, i need a different car, "other car"

 

[Slicehand]

aahg i dont know man its late here, anyway carlos won, he is a bull, natural, not natural, doesnt matter, if one dopes everyone dopes, what we cant deny is that its a level playing field, he just uses better the racquet, what if he is stronger, is he to blame for the bad genes of skinny guys like fritz? thats that

 

[intrepidish]

I've been researching these things

"Researching..."

LMAO. You haven't "researched" anything. You do the usual conspiracy theory nonsense with the players you don't like.

 

[FeroBango]

But not as fast as Becker, Wilander or Borg. All won 2 slams in their teens, Carlos won't be able to match that.

COVID robbed Carlos.

 

[FeroBango]

As a fan. It pains me to agree. If Sinner serves less than 60% in he needs to start booking his ticket from now

Please. This is an actual rivalry made of quality, competitive matches unlike the Federer-Rod one.

 

[FeroBango]

Can you ****ers stop about Tennis players doping like conspiracy nuts, derailing the conversation from the actual Tennis?

 

[RG GOD]

No one's disputing the exceptional talent and skill set. But some things are obvious, to those who know this stuff.

The only thing obvious is your hate for Alcaraz and Nadal. Or maybe for Spain.

 

[a10best]

Alcaraz is Federer and Sinner is Roddick. lol

Rune is a mini-Berdych.

 

[Rattie]

 

[mike danny]

No I don't think so. Fritz is much better than Ferrer no matter how many times you say that.

Ferrer beat an injured Nadal in straights at AO 2011, QED.

 

[robyrolfo]

Its not about brains, its about intuition, do you play tennis man?? I would say you dont play a lot

So then say he has good tennis intuition. Don't make statements implying something about intelligence.

And yes, I play tennis (and I noticed people love to ask this question)

If you think it is that simple, perhaps you should start playing tennis, you can make it big time!!!!!!!!!!!

Because I'm sure you don't play tennis otherwise you'd know how difficult is doing what he does.

Seeing it is the easy (easier) part. It's doing it that is difficult. And yes, he is doing it, so give him credit for that.

Again, I do play, so I realize how difficult it is (see above) to do it. Nobody said it was simple. You are arguing with yourself.

Hey, buddy, buddy, easy there! Are you trying to get this thread canceled too? Who said anything about doping??? We're talking about SCIENCE here! After all, we know for a fact that he's had his own sports and fitness doctor since age 8, Dr. Juanjo Lopez, that he also consults with Rafa's supreme scientist Angel Ruiz-Cotorro, and that he's had plasma infiltrations and transfusions since his early teen years - all of that is public domain! And to answer your question: yes. In fact, I saw him live in my hometown in late 2019 - he lost 6-1 in the third to Stefano Napolitano and he was tiny. But thankfully he was then able to quickly add 20 lbs of monster muscle thanks to carbohydrates, as his staff kindly explained. TRUST THE SCIENCE!

People in here are delusional, and clearly unfamiliar with Occam's razor.

Maybe you forgot that Kyrgios has a winning h2h vs Djokovic.

Does that make Kyrgios equal or better than Djokovic.

The same thing with Alcaraz and Sinner.

What? Do you have a reading problem? Nobody said Sinner was better than Alcaraz. I'm just pointing out that people are claiming Alcaraz is dominating him, when Sinner won 2 out of their 3 matches last year. I wouldn't call that domination. At least not yet. Read carefully before you type.

Now you also have reading problems.

I said other ignoramus like you, why it has to be plural?

Glass houses. See above.

It's a good explanation, full of common sense, as you are not a native

Yes I'm a native speaker, and it does not have to be plural.

Incorrect. Glass houses.

 

[Topspin_80]

You are deflecting the doping issue, and you are not even doing a good job at that.

You have insinuated more than once Alcaraz use of doping.

Don't say science, when you clearly are talking about doping.

Saying things like gynecomastia.

You should be ashamed for casting doubts on people reputation, and all that based on according to you more than 20 years
of research.

 

[Slicehand]

So then say he has good tennis intuition. Don't make statements implying something about intelligence.

And yes, I play tennis (and I noticed people love to ask this question)

Seeing it is the easy (easier) part. It's doing it that is difficult. And yes, he is doing it, so give him credit for that.

Again, I do play, so I realize how difficult it is (see above) to do it. Nobody said it was simple. You are arguing with yourself.

People in here are delusional, and clearly unfamiliar with Occam's razor.

What? Do you have a reading problem? Nobody said Sinner was better than Alcaraz. I'm just pointing out that people are claiming Alcaraz is dominating him, when Sinner won 2 out of their 3 matches last year. I wouldn't call that domination. At least not yet. Read carefully before you type.


Glass houses. See above.


Incorrect. Glass houses.

Tennis iq means intuition, nobody said he was intelligent as in solving maths problems man

 

[a10best]

I haven't seen some level of "tennis IQ" that stands out compared to other highly ranked players. And as much as that is a real thing, it's still not the most complicated sport in terms of tactics. The guy is super fit and not afraid to go for crazy shots (which he seems to be hitting more often than not lately). Let's not make it into something more than it is.


It's almost like people forget that a hobbled Nadal beat an in-form Alcaraz at Indian Wells, just last year.

He was still mesmerized by playing his idol at age 18. And from what I see this year Alcaraz has improved massively (serve & bh) since 13 months ago.

 

[robyrolfo]

Tennis iq means intuition, nobody said he was intelligent as in solving maths problems man

Why do you and your buddy insist on being wrong. Google exists. Look up intuition, and look up IQ. There might be some slight overlap, but they are not the same thing. If you want to talk about intuition, use a different term.

He was still mesmerized by playing his idol at age 18. And from what I see this year Alcaraz has improved massively (serve & bh) since 13 months ago.

I agree with what you wrote, but Nadal was still injured (pretty badly), and he still won the match. Yes, Alcaraz has improved. Massively? Remains to be seen. He had a "hot" patch last year as well, but didn't maintain that form all season, did he?

 

[Slicehand]

Why do you and your buddy insist on being wrong. Google exists. Look up intuition, and look up IQ. There might be some slight overlap, but they are not the same thing. If you want to talk about intuition, use a different term.


I agree with what you wrote, but Nadal was still injured (pretty badly), and he still won the match. Yes, Alcaraz has improved. Massively? Remains to be seen. He had a "hot" patch last year as well, but didn't maintain that form all season, did he?

What buddy? What are you talking about? Tennis iq, is not the same as regular iq, i can tell you are not familiar with tennis terms at all, if you think alcaraz doesnt have tennis iq, man really, go watch another sport

 

[a10best]

Why do you and your buddy insist on being wrong. Google exists. Look up intuition, and look up IQ. There might be some slight overlap, but they are not the same thing. If you want to talk about intuition, use a different term.


I agree with what you wrote, but Nadal was still injured (pretty badly), and he still won the match. Yes, Alcaraz has improved. Massively? Remains to be seen. He had a "hot" patch last year as well, but didn't maintain that form all season, did he?

He is erratic and can easily lose 3-4 games in a row by losing focus; Lajovic second set.

I cannot recall any great male player who hasn't had a bad stretch during the year when they won their first slam.
- losing to Zev at FO 22 isn't a shameful loss nor was his loss at his first? Wimbledon to Sinner.

Nadal is a GOAT and used his old-man guile to eek out a win at IW. Similar to how MJ did to a young Kobe.
The problem is Nadal's time is over as he'll almost be 37 by the end of the FO.

Alcaraz will have ups and downs with his game style along with nagging injuries. I don't think he will ever play great every month of the season. 9 or 10 months out of 11 is doable.

 

[Baseline_Bungle]

You are deflecting the doping issue, and you are not even doing a good job at that.
Only other idiot like you would agree.

Still needs to be plural, my man!

But please, by all means, do continue! The comic relief you are providing is priceless.

 

[robyrolfo]

What buddy? What are you talking about? Tennis iq, is not the same as regular iq, i can tell you are not familiar with tennis terms at all, if you think alcaraz doesnt have tennis iq, man really, go watch another sport

Yeah, no. Nobody said tennis IQ was the same as regular IQ. Nor did anyone say Alcaraz doesn't have tennis IQ. I merely said his tennis IQ is that of a top player, but nothing off the charts. It's his ability to make those low percentage, seemingly desperate shots that is above average, even among top players.

Anyway, hopefully you will quiet down a bit after last night.

 

[Slicehand]

Yeah, no. Nobody said tennis IQ was the same as regular IQ. Nor did anyone say Alcaraz doesn't have tennis IQ. I merely said his tennis IQ is that of a top player, but nothing off the charts. It's his ability to make those low percentage, seemingly desperate shots that is above average, even among top players.

Anyway, hopefully you will quiet down a bit after last night.

you said to look up iq in google, thats why i said that, anyway, doesnt matter how you put it, he has all the tennis tools, this is his second full year on tour, lets see how he plays when he is sinner age