2023 NITTO ATP FINALS TORINO

Who takes home the Turin title?

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Wow. Really cheap miss on BP from Zverev. Got the 2nd serve, got a backhand to hit, and he just airmails it.

That may be his last and final chance.
 
Medvedev's attempts of punishing short attackable balls really make me face palm at times. Especially now with the yesterday's Djokovic-Sinner match still being fresh.

Nothing that a stunning passing shot and Zverev's forehand fail can't fix. Now send the young vamos packing next.
 
So Med is through, now I guess he'll be yawning all through the Alcaraz match... very lucky for Tiny. And if Tiny beats Med, he's also sure to qualify - no matter how badly Z might beat Ruby.
 
mehdimike said:
So Rublev is not done yet?!
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Kralingen said:
Shockingly no.

Basically it goes as follows:

Zverev wins - he qualifies no matter what

Rublev beats Zverev AND Alcaraz beats Medvedev, Carlos qualifies

If Rublev beats Zverev and Medvedev beats Alcaraz, though, then the fun starts. It would go by sets won% and then games won%
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He is out. Medvedev has qualified for the semifinal while Rublev can't end up having a better sets win-loss ratio than Alcaraz.
 
Kralingen said:
Shockingly no.

Basically it goes as follows:

Zverev wins - Rublev is done no matter what

Rublev beats Zverev AND Alcaraz beats Medvedev, Carlos qualifies

If Rublev beats Zverev and Medvedev beats Alcaraz, though, then the fun starts. It would go by sets won% and then games won%
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He's donezo. See above.
 
TheAssassin said:
He is out. Medvedev has qualified for the semifinal while Rublev can't end up having a better sets win-loss ratio than Alcaraz.
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Ah I see. had the thought in my head that Carlos lost in straights to Zverev.

In this case Carlos can still qualify with straight sets beating of Medvedev even if Zverev wins in straights as well. That’s good to know.
 
Kralingen said:
Ah I see. had the thought in my head that Carlos lost in straights to Zverev.

In this case Carlos can still qualify with straight sets beating of Medvedev even if Zverev wins in straights as well. That’s good to know.
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Even if Carlos beats Med in three, he should be through. Set score would be 5-3. Best Zverev can do now is 4-3. If Alcaraz wins on Friday, he and Med advance.
 
tudwell said:
Even if Carlos beats Med in three, he should be through. Set score would be 5-3. Best Zverev can do now is 4-3. If Alcaraz wins on Friday, he and Med advance.
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For the good of the sport, Medvedev should tank it on Friday. Give us the top 4 in the SFs and those mouth watering Djokovic Medvedev Sinner Alcaraz matchups. Can’t be having Zverev in there. I’d even go as far as calling a moratorium on the Medvedev hit pieces I post if he rolled over for Charlie.
 
tiny worst scenario 3-4 in sets trumps bweh best scenario 2-4 so bweh is out
 
Kralingen said:
Ah I see. had the thought in my head that Carlos lost in straights to Zverev.

In this case Carlos can still qualify with straight sets beating of Medvedev even if Zverev wins in straights as well. That’s good to know.
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Carlos will qualify with any win. Doing it in straights would also mean topping the group.
 
Rublev has been eliminated, since Med has 2 wins and Alcaraz has clinched a better record in sets against him. Rublev's job is now to play the spoiler role.

Alcaraz can still win this group over Med if he sweeps Med. Otherwise, Med just needs a win a set to clinch this group.

Zverev needs to win and Alcaraz needs to lose, otherwise, he's out. Alcaraz won their HTH meeting.
 
Man, I love the Finals, but there's also a lot wrong with this formula...

In one group, you now have Rune who has a real chance of qualifying via a 3-game retirement and a strategic tank.

And in the other group, we'll likely also have two guys who can "tweak" the scoreline depending on who they'd rather face in the semis...
 
NYTennisfan said:
Medvedev eternally underrated. I see all the talk of Djokovic, Sinner with Zverev and Rune getting darkhorse mention and here is this hard court master going under the radar again going about his business winning 4 straight sets to kick off this tournament.
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Sorry, nobody who has won just one HC slam deserves to be called a "master" on the surface. Stan sure as heck isn't a HC master and he's won 2 HC slams.

I think Med is not underrated at all, he's always a threat on HC's, but his style of play is unbelievably one-dimensional and boring. He could end so many points simply by coming in and knocking off the sitter volley, but prefers a defensive, grinding style which puts many of us to sleep. Fortune favors the bold, not standing on Mars to return serves.
 
BeatlesFan said:
If Sinner plays like he did yesterday, Djokovic might never beat Sinner again. Literally. It's not like Djokovic is going to improve at his age, all he can do is manage his decline.
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I agree and Djokovic actually played well the surprising part. He served 20 aces and still lost
 
BeatlesFan said:
Sorry, nobody who has won just one HC slam deserves to be called a "master" on the surface. Stan sure as heck isn't a HC master and he's won 2 HC slams.

I think Med is not underrated at all, he's always a threat on HC's, but his style of play is unbelievably one-dimensional and boring. He could end so many points simply by coming in and knocking off the sitter volley, but prefers a defensive, grinding style which puts many of us to sleep. Fortune favors the bold, not standing on Mars to return serves.
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Hard court "master" is taking it too far but he's probably the 2nd best hard court player in the world. Two straight Aussie Open finals recently , just about won one of them, beat Djokovic at '21 US Open, almost beat Nadal in the '19 US Open final, made the finals at USO this year. He's always in the mix late in hard court slams yet rarely got mention for this one as potential champ. He's constantly overlooked because he doesn't have a visually pleasing game.
 
NYTennisfan said:
Hard court "master" is taking it too far but he's probably the 2nd best hard court player in the world. Two straight Aussie Open finals recently , just about won one of them, beat Djokovic at '21 US Open, almost beat Nadal in the '19 US Open final, made the finals at USO this year. He's always in the mix late in hard court slams yet rarely got mention for this one as potential champ. He's constantly overlooked because he doesn't have a visually pleasing game.
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His performance in the final of the US Open was an embarrassment this year.
 
Nostradamus said:
Alcarez just destroyed Rublev who is very tough on fast indoor surfaces . this is just a taste to come for AO24
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Funny i am sure we heard similar after Alcaraz beat Zverev comfortably in 4 sets in US Open Q/F , we were told he would route Med and take care of old man Novak and we saw what happened there
 
paolo2143 said:
the operative word being "if" as unlikely Sinner will play to that level most of the time next year.
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Dude have you not opened up your eyes and see how Sinners career has progressed?

Sinner did some great things
1. Beat two top three players in a row in straights
2. Snapped a 19 match winning streak from the greatest tennis player in history
3. Beat the current second best hard courter in the last 5 years in two hardcourt finals (now third best to Sinner IMO)
 
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