Vincent-C
Legend
I think Sinner has a good shot at winning Majors next year. His composure in the Djok match was just right.
Adding: wouldn't a Sinner-Djok rematch @ AO be exciting?
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Adding: wouldn't a Sinner-Djok rematch @ AO be exciting?
Vincent-C
Legend
this seems like a troll. dollars to donuts Alky does not win AO24- if he even plays it (the poor dear is delicate; see last year..).
top10
Semi-Pro
I think we may see the rematch very soon @final.
I hope Sinner had not peaked too early…
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Its like Old rotten Egg vs his sons and grandsons
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Vincent-C
Legend
I don't know how he does it [ahem], but he keeps doing it..
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
alcarez won, i saw it in my dreams
He's thirsty for revenge from the US Open. I hope that match is gonna be crazy.
Vincent-C
Legend
Go, Meddy.
Notorious_Junkballer
Hall of Fame
This point system is rotten. Hubi and Djoko have now nothing to play for after Djoko lost the second set. No matter if he wins or loses, Novak's faith is now in Sinner's & Rune's hands. Regardless if Djoko wins or loses and Rune wins, Rune rides on. Djoko's only chance now is Sinner beating Rune, and this doesn't even require him winning the 3rd set and the match against Hubi. Please, tell me I've got this wrong!
Cortana
Legend
Well if Rune wins, he has a 3-0. Djokovic and Sinner would be both at 2-1 and Djokovic lost the match against Sinner. So he should be 3rd?
Notorious_Junkballer
Hall of Fame
Sinner is already through now that Djokovic lost the second set.
The other place is Rune's if he wins tonight. If he loses, Djokovic is through, even if he lost the 3rd set against Hubi.
GodlessEndeavor
Professional
Here's what the official page says:
Source: https://www.nittoatpfinals.com/en/news/djokovic-hurkacz-turin-2023-thursday
InvisibleSoul
Hall of Fame
Not to suggest anything dishonest, but wouldn't it be in basically everyone's best interest, including Jannik, if Rune was to win today?
GodlessEndeavor
Professional
Yes, assuming one believes Sinner would rather play Rune than Djokovic again.
Well, it's not in Djokovic's interest, but other than that yeah.
robyrolfo
Hall of Fame
There is potential for what they call in Italy, a cookie (biscotto). I don't know why it is actually called that (maybe @Baseline_Bungle could explain the origin), but with group play being such common in soccer/football tournaments, it comes up very often.
Walrus Gumball
Rookie
InvisibleSoul
Hall of Fame
Yeah... playing the final matches concurrently would help prevent this situation, at least partially.
There was also the famous incident for badminton in the Olympics for something similar: https://www.espn.com/olympics/summe...nton-players-disqualified-trying-lose-matches
alexio
G.O.A.T.
meddy is already there, only question who has second ticket, tiny or zebrev
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
I think probably meddy and Zverev. I’m not sure if Alcaraz can beat meddy in these fast indoor conditions.
Then again he improved a lot 2nd match and has more to play for. We will see.
I’m picking Alcaraz to come through. Zverev’s lost three straight to Rublev, all of them this year, only winning one set – and a tiebreak at that. Of course, Rublev hasn’t looked great here but his form coming into the tournament was better than Zverev’s. Alcaraz has a decent shot of beating Medvedev as well, but if Zverev loses it doesn't even matter what Alcaraz does – he's through to the semis.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Novak is done, he's going down in the semis. He simply don't care anymore and just go on vacation
Vincent-C
Legend
I do not think so.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Sinner will destroy novak here and also destroy him at the australian open
Sinner will win his first slam in Australia?
Niekotokio
Semi-Pro
2025
mightyjeditribble
Legend
Interesting that Sinner's win put Djokovic through. He'll be pleased to get his first win v Rune though.
It seems strange that they put the Alc v Med match first today. If Alcaraz wins today, the second match is a dead rubber.
It seems strange that they put the Alc v Med match first today. If Alcaraz wins today, the second match is a dead rubber.
Lol he hardly destroyed him the other night winning a final set tie breaker in an epic match. Novak may well be beaten by Med or Sinner over weekend but to say that Sinner will destroy him at Aussie open sounds more like wishful thinking on your part.
Don't get me wrong i think Novak may only have 1 more GS in him and another 2-3 1000 Masters but if he was to somehow win OG next year that would be just fine with me. He has already most of the really big records , anything else from now on in is just a lovely bonus unless Rafa can pull off an unlikely miracle next year.
BGod
G.O.A.T.
Betting lines my friend. Since the outcome can greatly affect the Zverev line. He's currently favored at around 1.6 with Ruble at 2.3 but both lines likely go even if it's meaningless and dare I say Zverev maybe just folds while Ruble will play for the 200 and money.
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ALCARAZWON
Guest
robyrolfo
Hall of Fame
But none of the affection and adoration...
Says who? He has millions of global fans. At the end of the day, he is the GOAT no matter whether people like him or not.
King_ Zeglan12
Professional
Prediction on point with Rublev
robyrolfo
Hall of Fame
That’s exactly my point. He has millions of fans (most of them with some similar personality traits), but he could have tens of millions of fans, like Fed or Nadal. And he may have the best stats on paper, but if you think that is all that matters to him, you are mistaken. He is desperate to be loved and adored like the others. Like Valentino Rossi, for example.
Plus, you shouldn’t be so certain about him being the undisputed this or that. It’s not a true/false question.
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
Affection and adoration is only good for the ATP, not Novak or his new organization.
