2023 NITTO ATP FINALS TORINO

[Mainad]

Exactly my thoughts, this seems like the most fun ATP finals in a while!

Also, why is Ruud not playing?

Didn't have enough live ranking points to make the cut this time.

 

[Baseline_Bungle]

Will Rune that kicked butt in paris show up in few minutes or someone else ?

Kicked whose butt? A former player and a clay court challenger specialist?

 

[jl809]

rather than love nothing try to watch a nice film gran torino with clint eastwood, if you like watching films

Gran Torino is great

 

[Vincent-C]

Kicked whose butt? A former player and a clay court challenger specialist?

Uber-hype is *everywhere* these days. It's one of the reasons I ignore the 'GOAT' nonsense.

nauseating

 

[ultimathule]

Can Rune make the break count?

 

[Krish0608]

This tournament can have only two winners: Djokovic the heavy favorite and Jannik Sinner with a legit shot at the title.

 

[Nostradamus]

Yet another college player makes in to the final ,,, it just goes to tell you,,, if you can't be top 10 in isingles, you can do it in doubles. this is really fast though... not sure how

 

[Cortana]

Zverev Djokovic final?

 

[Kralingen]

No thread for Medvedev?

 

[robyrolfo]

The Philosopher should have given his place to HH then, but it seems that the Greek does not know the meaning of Ethics.
It is a shame that Tsitsipas's actions are a sign of our times.

Sorry, but as others have said, Tsitsipas did not look injured during that match. He didn't seem physically limited at all.

 

[BeatlesFan]

For all you Americans, Nick will be commenting tomorrow during the Holger-Tsits match and then again for the Djoker-Sinner clash. Note: it says Wednesday, but they clarified it will be tomorrow.

 

[robyrolfo]

For all you Americans, Nick will be commenting tomorrow during the Holger-Tsits match and then again for the Djoker-Sinner clash. Note: it says Wednesday, but they clarified it will be tomorrow.

How can anyone think this will be anything but awful?

 

[Sereger]

Any reason why the late matches are kinda...late? 8pm is better time to start the games as well as to avoid long ass 3h+ matches that last through midnight.

 

[Baseline_Bungle]

For all you Americans, Nick will be commenting tomorrow during the Holger-Tsits match and then again for the Djoker-Sinner clash. Note: it says Wednesday, but they clarified it will be tomorrow.

So, he couldn't even be bothered to work a full week behind the mic?

 

[robyrolfo]

Just a brief rant, but why the f---ck can't TC plus have these matches live? Seriously? WTF am I paying for?

 

[Nostradamus]

So ONLY way Sinner can win a major is if they put a major in Italy ?? What are the chances of swapping french and italian open to 1000 event and making italian open to Major slam ? so that Sinner can win a major ?

 

[Vincent-C]

So ONLY way Sinner can win a major is if they put a major in Italy ?? What are the chances of swapping french and italian open to 1000 event and making italian open to Major slam ? so that Sinner can win a major ?

AO24.

 

[Nostradamus]

AO24.

Alcarez will be too strong there so i don't think so

 

[dking68]

Alcarez will be too strong there so i don't think so

Alcaraz has been horrible after Wimbledon and I think Sinner is better on hard courts right now

 

[Vincent-C]

Alcarez will be too strong there so i don't think so

What has Alvarez done for us lately?

 

[Vincent-C]

Alcarez will be too strong there so i don't think so

How did Alky do there last year- and how's he been doing lately?

 

[Nostradamus]

What has Alvarez done for us lately?

Alcarez had been dead tired after US open and couldn't give his best tennis. but now with this vacation time, when he comes back in January, he will be playing at 110 %

 

[Vincent-C]

Alcarez had been dead tired after US open and couldn't give his best tennis. but now with this vacation time, when he comes back in January, he will be playing at 110 %

We will see. Up-cycling has its benefits.

 

[Vincent-C]

Alcaraz has been horrible after Wimbledon and I think Sinner is better on hard courts right now

Only "right now"? As I see it, Sinner is better on HC than that other kid (the faster, the better), period.

 

[KantenKlaar]

I would not bring my girlfriend to these matches if I was stefano

This is my whole point. I go to work and would not be able to function at highest level with ma and pa and love interests hanging around. Not on, not healthy. Keep the box as small as possible.

 

[Cortana]

Tsitsipas ****ed up this tournament.

 

[socallefty]

Can Sinner beat Novak twice in one week or will someone else do the job to eliminate the wolf from Serbia?

 

[BeatlesFan]

Can Sinner beat Novak twice in one week or will someone else do the job to eliminate the wolf from Serbia?

If Sinner plays like he did yesterday, Djokovic might never beat Sinner again. Literally. It's not like Djokovic is going to improve at his age, all he can do is manage his decline.

 

[Cortana]

If Sinner plays like he did yesterday, Djokovic might never beat Sinner again. Literally. It's not like Djokovic is going to improve at his age, all he can do is manage his decline.

There is still your daily form. Novak can still have a day on which he plays like in 2015.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

There is still your daily form. Novak can still have a day on which he plays like in 2015.

There's also BO3 vs BO5. Conventional logic used to say that age decline shows in BO5 first, but Djokovic has not been as dominant in BO3 as in BO5 for a while. Some of that might be motivation, but I think some of it is that in BO5 his experience still plays a bigger role and he can find ways to win.

Decline can come quickly at his age but realistically he reached 4 GS finals this year and won 3 so he's going to be in the mix and have his chances for sure next year.

 

[ppma]

Novak did not do the things the use to do in important matches like shooting winners into the lines when pressured with crazy angles. Also he did stupid things he does not use to do like nonsense visits to the net in not so proper moments like he thought he was Federer or sending balls to the net in neutral balls. Still, Sinner the match could have gone either way.

I would not disregard him to keep vulturing slams, not matter how I dislike it.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Meddy v Zverev should be a fun one!

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Meddy with a great pass!

 

[Cortana]

Meds defensive as good as Novaks in his best days.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Octopus with crazy movement and defence! He breaks!

 

[Cortana]

I still don‘t understand how one can be this tall and have such an amazing defense?

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I still don‘t understand how one can be this tall and have such an amazing defense?

Krygios very words! Haha

 

[MeatTornado]

Did Zverev actually serve 100% in that first game and still lose 4 of 5 points?

 

[Vincent-C]

C'mon Meddy, send the Zedrot home!

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

C'mon Meddy, send the Zedrot home!

I feel Meddy will be too solid for goldie here. Meddy could literally go 5-0 this week. He’s capable of it as he loves this event and these conditions.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Goldie with BPS here. Good response.

 

[Vincent-C]

So how goes Alky fit in here, at 1-1 in matches?

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Zverev on a roll! Nick voted for goldie. He might know ball! Haha

 

[Kralingen]

So how goes Alky fit in here, at 1-1 in matches?

His best case scenario would be a straight sets victory here, really either way, as it would place both him and the loser at 1-1 and 2-2 in sets. He should be rooting for Zverev imo, as that way it turns Friday’s Medvedev match into a de facto QF where winner takes all. If Medvedev wins this, then Carlos not only has to beat Medvedev on Friday, he has to hope Rublev plays well enough to at least take a set from Zverev.

Either way, Carlos has to beat Medvedev, likely in straights, to have any hope of qualification.

 

[tudwell]

Rather aggressive display from both guys so far, especially Zverev. Not the push-fest you sometimes expect between these two.

 

[Vincent-C]

His best case scenario would be a straight sets victory here, really either way, as it would place both him and the loser at 1-1 and 2-2 in sets. He should be rooting for Zverev imo, as that way it turns Friday’s Medvedev match into a de facto QF where winner takes all. If Medvedev wins this, then Carlos not only has to beat Medvedev on Friday, he has to hope Rublev plays well enough to at least take a set from Zverev.

Either way, Carlos has to beat Medvedev, likely in straights, to have any hope of qualification.

Thanks very much.

VC

 

[mehdimike]

Rather aggressive display from both guys so far, especially Zverev. Not the push-fest you sometimes expect between these two.

Then comes an epic point

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Great rally that. Both guys playing well. 4-4

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Zverev hitting great right now.

 

[Hitman]

I am impressed with the way Zverev has approached this match so far. Med solid as always.