2023 U.S. Open - Women's Discussion

Who will be WTA singles champion for the 2023 U.S. Open?

  • SWIATEK

    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • SABALENKA

    Votes: 4 16.7%
  • PEGULA

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • RYBAKINA

    Votes: 6 25.0%
  • JABEUR

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • GAUFF

    Votes: 6 25.0%
  • GARCIA

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • SAKKARI

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • VONDROUSOVA

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • OTHER

    Votes: 4 16.7%

  • Total voters
    24
  • Poll closed .

beltsman

G.O.A.T.
Poor umpire. She was put under too much pressure from Gauff and finally gave one point penalty.

Gauffs behaviour was pathetic. Serving when opponent wasn't ready and urguing with umpire over not getting that point
And laughing when siegmund gets warning and point penalty. And finally mocking her opponent in post match interview.

Her opponent took more time but nothing compared to what Nadal takes

Yeah. Why is it bad to wait for the serve clock but it's supposed to be okay to rush your opponent while serving like what Gauff was doing?
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Great path for Muchova to the QF's.

Would be pretty crazy, she'd then have made the QF's of all 4 slams.

Something accomplished by very few on tour.
 

D-Lite

Hall of Fame
Concerning that even after the drama, Gauff let 5-1 in the final set become 5-4. She was right to bring it up with the umpire but one of the commentators questioned the impact it would have going forward and I tend to agree I think being stone cold and focussing solely on the task in hand may have been a better strategy.
 

Arak

Legend
Poor umpire. She was put under too much pressure from Gauff and finally gave one point penalty.

Gauffs behaviour was pathetic. Serving when opponent wasn't ready and urguing with umpire over not getting that point
And laughing when siegmund gets warning and point penalty. And finally mocking her opponent in post match interview.

Her opponent took more time but nothing compared to what Nadal takes
That was pathetic from the German player. You can slow down the game on your own serve, but you can’t slow it down on your opponent’s serve. If the server is ready, she has to be ready too. Unless your name is Nadal or Swiatek, you should not be allowed to slow down the server. Only those two should be allowed to do it.
 

AM75

Hall of Fame
That was pathetic from the German player. You can slow down the game on your own serve, but you can’t slow it down on your opponent’s serve. If the server is ready, she has to be ready too. Unless your name is Nadal or Swiatek, you should not be allowed to slow down the server. Only those two should be allowed to do it.
Not exactly, the server can serve only when the returner is ready. The umpire must stop the server if he/she sees that the returner is not ready to play.
 

bigjimbofan

Semi-Pro
Poor umpire. She was put under too much pressure from Gauff and finally gave one point penalty.

Gauffs behaviour was pathetic. Serving when opponent wasn't ready and urguing with umpire over not getting that point
And laughing when siegmund gets warning and point penalty. And finally mocking her opponent in post match interview.

Her opponent took more time but nothing compared to what Nadal takes
This. The entitled attitude and classless Gilbert influence is going to cost Coco. I dont believe this behavior is what she really is. It's being pushed by others.
 

roysid

Legend
That was pathetic from the German player. You can slow down the game on your own serve, but you can’t slow it down on your opponent’s serve. If the server is ready, she has to be ready too. Unless your name is Nadal or Swiatek, you should not be allowed to slow down the server. Only those two should be allowed to do it.
Or one can wait a few seconds more
 

Fed881981

Hall of Fame
Concerning that even after the drama, Gauff let 5-1 in the final set become 5-4. She was right to bring it up with the umpire but one of the commentators questioned the impact it would have going forward and I tend to agree I think being stone cold and focussing solely on the task in hand may have been a better strategy.
I tend to agree, but I found the timing bizarre. She did it up 3-0 in the third. She should have done it much earlier (like in the first game of the second set). She waited too long and then picked the wrong time.
 
Could you please explain what you meant when you said:
"Masarova is jacked as **** no surprise"

I don't understand that and I'm sure others don't as well.
Right, I wouldn't diss her. I saw her play twice from the 1st row in the Chicago heat last week and is superstrong. Great baseliner that can really flatten it out, 115 mph serve, great at coming into the neat, etc..
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Alexandrova a bit of a brainless basher (really good slice serves though), but will be pulling for her over Fraudnandez.
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Tiebreaker for Alexandrova and Fernandez. Looks like Jabeur is even needing a tiebreaker to survive this first set vs Osorio.

Wow... they just showed leylah 0-6 in breakers this year.
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Ah, may have misread the score. Jabeur won first set 7-5.

Alexandrova takes the first also. Bombed a 2nd serve return to go back up a mini break and consolidated on serve to seal the set.
 

ScottleeSV

Hall of Fame
Jabeur looked absolutely dead in her chair during the medical timeout. Pretty sure she would have walked off if it wasn't a major.
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Well Osorio went up a break for 3-1. Won 3 games in a row, but gives back a game getting broken at love. Jabeur still a bit dangerous with her ballstriking.

Seems like Jabeur definitely struggling to get up for the serve though.
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Well looks like it was a trap. Osorio forgetting how to play now. Not moving Jabeur enough and putting balls into the net.

I would honestly just start moonballing here. Jabeur won't have an answer.
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Okay...now Osorio with 2 break chance to get us back to 4-4. lol

Jabeur actually went for a jumping 2hbh which she hit really well. Didn't think she had it in her cause she's barely getting off the ground for serves.
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Osorio went down a break again, saved match points on her own serve. Then breaks at love to get us to 5-5.

Now broken again at love. Clownshow.
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
Alexandrova a bit of a brainless basher (really good slice serves though), but will be pulling for her over Fraudnandez.

I used to be an Alexandrova fan but not anymore. :(
All that abruptly ended this past weekend when she lost 6-3, 4-6, 4-6 to Tormo in Cleveland.

She was clearly more talented, but as you say her brainless style of play caused her to lose. :(
I can cut players a certain amount of slack, but when I see the same mistakes being made
over and over even I finally throw in the towel. :(
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
This match makes no sense. We literally had 11 points in a row go against serve I think. Jabeur was down 0-40 serving for match (2nd time). Gets to deuce, loses next two points and we go to a breaker.

Osorio's level also been up and down. Lot of bad mistakes. Jabeur up a mini break now also. But she hasn't really been good on her serve so this breaker could go anywhere.

And it's 1-1.
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
Ever watch a match and wonder how someone won it, in straight sets no less? Thats how I feel about Bouzkova right now.
The only match I'll ever watch with Bouz in it will be some final with someone I like.
I used to be a fan of hers, but after that doubles incident it's game over for me with her.
There was absolutely no excuse for her atrocious behavior on that fateful day.
Whenever she plays I get out my voodoo doll.
 

Brian11785

Hall of Fame
This. The entitled attitude and classless Gilbert influence is going to cost Coco. I dont believe this behavior is what she really is. It's being pushed by others.

Yeah, even the extremely pro-Coco commentators (who are also colleagues of Brad) were skeptical of him telling her to talk to the umpire. I could see his influence being poisonous long-term.
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
The only match I'll ever watch with Bouz in it will be some final with someone I like.
I used to be a fan of hers, but after that doubles incident it's game over for me with her.
There was absolutely no excuse for her atrocious behavior on that fateful day.
Whenever she plays I get out my voodoo doll.

I watched because I picked her in the SDL game and figured I may as well see if she screws me LOL. I don't generally like her (didn't before that doubles incident), but today I really watched and kept going....how did you win that game....which is really sad for me as a lover of tennis to look at a player and be like....ok you won I guess
 

robyrolfo

Hall of Fame
Coco needs to get over the despondent reaction. She gets too upset when she does something wrong or her opponent does something good.
I can't stand that stuff, and while you see it in a few WTA players, Swiatek is the absolute worst for it. Her opponent hits a good shot, and she acts like the entire planet has conspired against her to make her lose a point unfairly. Is she really so oblivious to the concept that her opponents are professional players and can, on occasion, hit a winner against her? WTF? So childish and bad.

You can't sit down on a 1-0 changeover? Is that in the rulebook?
I was wondering that too. But, either way, it looked really petty and silly of Coco to complain about it to the chair umpire. ESPECIALLY because she was eating a damn snack out of a Tupperware container as she complained. I mean, seriously? You are going to complain about someone sitting down for 30 seconds while you are eating a freaking snack?

The shot clock not actually functioning like a shot clock remains an all time piece of trollery.
Honestly, what is the deal with this sport? The serve clock is so poorly implemented that it really does seem like a joke. WAY too much discretion. Make the thing 5-10 seconds longer, and make it automatically start as soon as the previous point ends. And if the server's racquet doesn't touch the ball before it runs out, automatic warning/penalty...

And laughing when siegmund gets warning and point penalty. And finally mocking her opponent in post match interview.
Yeah, Coco acting like a bratty junior isn't going to win her any fans. She's been on the tour long enough now to know better.

Not exactly, the server can serve only when the returner is ready. The umpire must stop the server if he/she sees that the returner is not ready to play.
Again, I don't understand this sport. Do you play at the server's pace or not? And doesn't that mean that the server should be free to serve whenever they are ready, and the opponent must adapt to it? That's the only way that makes any sense.

This. The entitled attitude and classless Gilbert influence is going to cost Coco. I dont believe this behavior is what she really is. It's being pushed by others.
Nah, it's not Gilbert that is the problem. He's only been working with her for a month. This stuff comes from a deeper place.
 

robyrolfo

Hall of Fame
Dirtbag Petkovic just said during the broadcast that her head to head with Giorgi was even, "5-5 or 4-4 or something..." Was she too embarrassed to admit Giorgi has the edge on her, 4-3?
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
Too bad Leylah couldn't come back to beat Alex. She made it close.

No one answered my question in the Fernandez thread about this.
She has made some big changes to her service motion.
One change is she no longer grounds her non-hitting hand to the racket before tossing the ball.

Do you know of any other player on tour who doesn't ground their racket before the toss?
 

Pass750

Professional
Too bad Leylah couldn't come back to beat Alex. She made it close.

No one answered my question in the Fernandez thread about this.
She has made some big changes to her service motion.
One change is she no longer grounds her non-hitting hand to the racket before tossing the ball.

Do you know of any other player on tour who doesn't ground their racket before the toss?
I don’t follow those kinds of things, but I did notice that very quickly.
 

Grizzy

Rookie
Leylah needs a real coach. Her dad should go help her sister out. If she had a real team she wouldn't have 4 straight months of ball toss yips and an ever worse serve percentage.

Her dad after the USO started to try to get her to volley more and rush the net more. She doesn't have the toolkit for that. It's hurt her game and she wins a low percentage of net points compared to other players. She should embrace what gave her success. Running the baseline and counter punching. It's too bad Canada doesn't have much in terms of coaching talent to step in and mentor her at this point.
 

Bill Lobsalot

Hall of Fame
Dirtbag Petkovic just said during the broadcast that her head to head with Giorgi was even, "5-5 or 4-4 or something..." Was she too embarrassed to admit Giorgi has the edge on her, 4-3?
Why should she know that stat off the top of her head? 4-4 vs. 4-3 is pretty close. Not familiar with her history, why would you call her a dirtbag?
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
Trevisan the divine got bagelled by Putintseva in the first set, then made it all the way to a second set breaker... and dished out a bagel of her own. 1-1 :love:
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
I decided to scout Boulter's next opponent and err I don't think it will be Caroline Garcia.
I'm happy Boulter won her match and am glad to see she'll have a chance to get to the 3rd round. :)
The good thing with having a ton of WTA faves is that if one or more lose you've got so many back-ups. :)
 

robyrolfo

Hall of Fame
Why should she know that stat off the top of her head? 4-4 vs. 4-3 is pretty close. Not familiar with her history, why would you call her a dirtbag?
It's a personal issue I have with her (or more specifically, her boyfriend), dating back to the 2019 Bronx open and her match against Giorgi (where I was in attendance). It was a really tough match and I'm sure she hasn't forgotten it (and the loss to Giorgi). And she seems like the type that remembers a lot of stuff, and she should remember someone having an edge, as opposed to being even. It was also said in a way as if to imply, 'yeah, Giorgi is really good, but I was even to her.'
 

ScottleeSV

Hall of Fame
I'm happy Boulter won her match and am glad to see she'll have a chance to get to the 3rd round. :)
The good thing with having a ton of WTA faves is that if one or more lose you've got so many back-ups. :)
Golden chance for both Boulter and Wang, and it's a coin toss based on what I saw today. Boulter will have top 50 on the line
 
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