2023 US Open Final: Daniil Medvedev vs. Novak Djokovic

US Open Champion?


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jl809

Hall of Fame
If Med plays well he will win 1 set. Else Djokovic in straights.
Why?
Because djokovic has figured out meddy since that 2021 us open final. After winning 3 or 4 matches straight, he let go dubai where he wasn't at his best. But this is different.
He absolutely hadn’t figured him out at Astana or the ATP finals lol. Only easy match was Adelaide. Not saying Djoker isn’t the favourite or even that he won’t win easily - I wouldn’t be surprised if he does dominate tbh - but the rivalry has not been straightforward so far
 

Krish872007

Talk Tennis Guru
As Medvedev said, he will once again need his 12/10 game to win on Sunday, anything less won't cut it against the Serbian Superstar.

Will be very interesting to see how this all pans out!
 

sortof

Semi-Pro
Meddy in 4. The only aspect I dislike about his game these days are the DFs on set- or match points - against de Minaur in Toronto (on set point Meddy), against the Zedrot in Cincinnatti (on match point Zedrot), twice against O´Connel (on set point Meddy and on set point O´Connel) and now against the little Spaniard. If he doesn´t choke too hard he is going to win it.
 
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mental midget

Hall of Fame
Novak is the favorite, make no mistake, but Meddy is a lively underdog. I'd say it will be 6:4 in Djokovic's favor, but certainly a winnable match for Daniil. He has done it before. Bad news is, Djokovic is good at exacting revenge, but he is now a few years older as well, so Meddy should make it a physical, long contest and try to grind the win out. They know each other well, so it will be a good one.
agree. med is one of the few players with the ability to take novak 'out into the deep end', make him press, and extract errors from him, which (apart from absolutely redlining offensively) is the best way to get into his head and break down his game.
 

mental midget

Hall of Fame
I’m down for this match. Only issue is I won’t be able to watch at all because I’ll be abroad (even more out of the time zone than usual).

Can’t really call how it will go. Head says Djoker will obviously be better than in 21 and even then he kept it relatively tight and could have got a set or 2. Not sure Med can reproduce his performance from last night. So Djoker fans will be confident for a reason

Having said that, Med has form for annoying the hell out of Djoker. I don’t think Djoker has faced anyone close to his ability from the baseline in terms of consistency and pace absorption.

Djoker will want revenge for USO 21. Meddy will want to exorcise AO 22 from his mind.

So idk. I’m not voting. If I had to, I’d lean Djoker in 4 or 5, because it’s Djoker.

Hope it’s a great match most of all and that both guys bring it for the entire thing, unlike AO 21 and USO 21
spot on. what will make this fun is novak being forced to play more offensively, which he can do but isn't his natural inclination. i could see this being a real war...which would be great.
 

Hitman

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ppma

Professional
Med is going to do nothing in the final. Clear 3-setter. He robbed us the wanted final and tomorrow he ain't delivering.
 

Mivic

Hall of Fame
If Djokovic is still Djokovic then he should win in no more than a relatively clinical 4 sets. Thing is we're now at the point at least to me where it's difficult to bank on him moving through the gears and raising his level for the big occassion against an opponent that's going to do his best to make him suffer and maybe just played a career best match. Throw his struggles in NY into the mix and I could just as easily see Novak come out flat and toothless on the way to turning this contest into an ugly battle of attrition which could end up going either way, especially if that last set against Shelton is anything to go by. Will trust that the great man still has enough level in the tank to get it done on Sunday though. On the bright side I think Med really did Novak a solid yesterday. Regardless of how he performed in the semi, I believe Alcaraz would have posed a very serious problem had he made it through to the final to play Novak.
 
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A lot of it depends which versions show. If the meddy before the SF shows then Novak will like his chances more.

If the Novak of early against Djere shows up then meddy will like his chances more.

If Novak produces his best and SF meddy shows then it’s got 5 setter written all over it.

Both players can be a bit up down so I’m not sure what will happen if a best of 5 set grind here.

The tactical adjustments both players make to start match and during match will be fascinating.

Indoor conditions suit both as both hate the heat/humidity. Meddy probably deals better in wind than Novak but neither like it much.
 

paolo2143

Professional
I think we may finally see a GS classic between these guys. They have played some great matches away from slams but ironically both previous finals were one sided thrashing.

I have been impressed with Dani right from 4th round onwards, rhee way he came back against bad starts against De Minaur and Rublev even though he was suffering in the heat, showed me he was really up for this event.

But last night was another level and if he can play like that in final then Novak will
Have to play his best match of tournament and be at his best in ali departments if he wants to win.

I think both are going to turn up as both really want this tournament and I think we are in for an epic match.

I could make a case for either but personally I hope Novak wins after thriller
 

L4S10s

Professional
Interesting enough, Novak needs to do what Carlos was trying to do last night, with some refinements. Sets 1 and 4 could've easily have went Carlos's way.
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
Medvedev in 4. He’s shown a higher level throughout and has played much tougher competition. He beat Alcaraz decisively yesterday. He can grind better than Djokovic at this stage of his career and won’t donate free points like Alcaraz.
 

paolo2143

Professional
If Med plays well he will win 1 set. Else Djokovic in straights.
Why?
Because djokovic has figured out meddy since that 2021 us open final. After winning 3 or 4 matches straight, he let go dubai where he wasn't at his best. But this is different.
Everybody thought Carlos had Meddy figured and looked what happened there.

This is Med back to his absolute hard court best and he is always a hard match up for Novak. Novak will only win if he is at too of his game.

I do think Novak wouldn't mind if it goes long as Dani may feel bit of fatigue after say 3 hrs due to last night
 

ark_28

Legend
The interesting thing is that if Medvedev wins a second USO title on Sunday, he would only need 1 more USO title to equal Djoker's entire USO haul despite being nearly a decade younger. :cool:
The interesting thing is if Novak wins tomorrow he will have 3 more USO titles than Medvedev and likely will never get passed by him
 

paolo2143

Professional
Bring out the popcorn for this one guys! What a matchup. Hopefully both bring their best on the day. This likely will be played under the roof too.

Djoko will need to use the net well in this match. That and how each other player serves will be key. It’s so evenly balanced. Let’s hope for a classic!
Why would Med not be able to keep his level? Is he an old man? Many players including those outside the big 3 like Del Potro, Cilic, Murray, Wawrinka, even Alcaraz kept a high level to win major finals. Why wouldn't Medvedev be able to? Especially since he's done it already 2 years ago and has been to the big dance before. Nothing will intimidate him now with his level of experience in big matches. Especially at the USO which has proven to be his best surface. And he has no issue with the balls either which he seemed to have issue with in other tournaments.
I agree , i expect Med to play great tomorrow so if Novak wants to win he is really going to have to be at his absolute best form even then it will be tough
 

paolo2143

Professional
Funny that Djokovic's age was the excuse for him losing at Wimbledon and now suddenly nobody is mentioning his age going into this final.
But they will pull the age excuse if he loses. :D
I think age does make bit of difference especially when you get to 36 and playing someone in their 20's.

It is to Novak's credit that he is still able to be such a great physical athlete at his age , however, it doesn't get any easier.

I reckon Novak has 12 more months and then we will start to really notice decline and I think Rafa has already reached that stage as Roger did as well.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Daniil is battle-hardened after his match with Carlitos. Novak's competitive spirit may have atrophied given his lack of stiff competition.
 

Fed881981

Hall of Fame
It could, but I hope you are right. That would be no way to cap off such a year as this.
Yes, this year deserves a better final of the final slam.

Medvedev is good enough at the UDO to win a set, and definitely to win 5 games in one set. I predicted Djokovic in 4, but won’t be surprised if it goes to 5 or if Medvedev wins.
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
Too many people here writing off Medvedev. He literally straight setted a better version of Djokovic at this very tournament two years ago. His level against Alcaraz was extremely high and he is more than capable of grinding for hours. Djokovic is going to need his net game and droppers to be off the charts.
 

Fed881981

Hall of Fame
Too many people here writing off Medvedev. He literally straight setted a better version of Djokovic at this very tournament two years ago. His level against Alcaraz was extremely high and he is more than capable of grinding for hours. Djokovic is going to need his net game and droppers to be off the charts.
Medvedev has a special way of grinding. I don’t know how to put it in words, but he doesn’t look exhausted after a long rally.
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
Think Novak is on a mission and will most likely win, but I honestly think Med has a chance if he can play near his Alcaraz level and stay in it early. Even if he loses the first set, if he can manage to stay close at the beginning of the second and squeeze out the second set, I think he has a chance. Must serve well, obviously.
 

Mr.Lob

G.O.A.T.
Med played much better, against much better competition, in the semi's yesterday. As he said, "I played better than myself", or something crazy like that.

Meds much stronger in the mental strength non-choking department, than the other next gens. But, Djokovic usually finds a way to grind it out and win. Hoping for the goat in 4 or 5 sets, but will probably be Med in 4 or 5. :cry:
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
Rain and storms possible on Sunday (though it could come and clear out by 4 pm). Does closing the roof favor one player over he other? They both seem like they wouldn't care that much.
 

Pheasant

Legend
Djoker won't have the insane stress of a CYGS going against him this time. He will be fresh. And he's in good form now as well. Med is in great form right now. Med is good enough to push Djoker to a 5th set. But Djoker is the best 5th set player in history while Med has a pitiful 4-9 record in 5th sets.

This match will be a barn-burner that will see Djoker win in a 5th set tiebreaker to bag slam title #24.
 
You could be right there. We will see if Meddy can play like that on Sunday. In earlier rounds he wasn’t as great. He seemed to peak tonight. The other factor is the final will be played earlier in day. We will see who that favours but the roof likely will be on. Both are great indoor players too.

I hope we get an epic!

I thought I had seen a statement from the US Open that the roof definitely would be closed for the final. Is that incorrect?

In any case, I think Medvedev can win and I believe he will win. Is it fair to say both he and Djokovic are coming in with fairly fresh legs, considering what really tough opponents in each round can do and neither have faced that this tournament? I do think it will be a dogfight. I really can’t wait! Let’s go, may the best player win! :D:love:(y):giggle:
 
I thought I had seen a statement from the US Open that the roof definitely would be closed for the final. Is that incorrect?

In any case, I think Medvedev can win and I believe he will win. Is it fair to say both he and Djokovic are coming in with fairly fresh legs, considering what really tough opponents in each round can do and neither have faced that this tournament? I do think it will be a dogfight. I really can’t wait! Let’s go, may the best player win! :D:love:(y):giggle:
It depends on the weather on Sunday. Rain is forecasted though at 70% chance so it likely will be on. We will see.
 

JaxTeller

Professional
I can feel in my viens ,this match is going to be a war ... Fckn 5 hour grindfest,lung exhausting rallies..epicness..

Djokovic in 5
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic got an easy semifinal. Last time he played too much tennis and Medvedev had joke of a draw. Hopefully this time, with rested Nole, we will reverse the decision. I am going with Nole in tight five setter.
 

alexio

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic got an easy semifinal. Last time he played too much tennis and Medvedev had joke of a draw. Hopefully this time, with rested Nole, we will reverse the decision. I am going with Nole in tight five setter.
roof will be closed or not what do you think
 

TheAssassin

Legend
Unlike a few of my comrades, I have no hard feelings towards Mad Lad for denying the ultimate year fairytale a couple of years back. And I'm really happy we have a Slam final between these two again. Was hoping we'd see more of the match up at that stage by now though a lot of chaos happened for one or the other over the last two years. But here we are...

In terms of pressure and form, Djokovic is in a better place than two years ago to pull it off. Medvedev, not sure where I would place him as he has gone through some real lows after letting that Australian Open last year slip. But beating Carlos the way he did was one of the most pleasant viewing experiences in recent memory. May this be one of many more finals he contests, and not allow the speedy new star to sweep it all when Djokovic calls it a day.

But anyway... Fellow stunning Warriors and protectors of the geriatric rule, ready for war!
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Medvedev has a special way of grinding. I don’t know how to put it in words, but he doesn’t look exhausted after a long rally.
One of them is at his true peak while the other is not but the poor competition he has had so far has given that false impression.
'Octopus' in 5 sets, even with the roof closed as another gift from the organization to his favorite player.
:cool:
 
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