2023 US Open Women's Final: (2) ARYNA Sabalenka vs (6) COCO Gauff

Who will win the 2023 US Open final?

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Sampras-Bruguera 1993 said:
Good she should be committed and publicly shamed for life. LOL
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Zodd said:
Agree Gauff has more experience than Raducanu did when becoming uso champ so hopefully will be able to handle the increased attention better. Also hope she will remain fit - always sad when players get hampered by injuries
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Gauff does seem to have excellent, excellent fitness. It’s pretty impressive to me.
 
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ACE of Hearts said:
Not a sexy style and pretty boring. I don’t think Gauff can change her game. I think this is her. Curious to see how many slams she could win like this.
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As long as she can bring the offense when necessary (like Ostapenko) and the defense when necessary (like Sabalenka)... and make adjustments when she needs to... she's going to win several slams.
 
mightyrick said:
As long as she can bring the offense when necessary (like Ostapenko) and the defense when necessary (like Sabalenka)... and make adjustments when she needs to... she's going to win several slams.
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What offense? She hardly has any offense. I think she’s more of a counterpuncher. Wozniak type.
 
Sabalenka (unlike of the entitled Swiatek type) is so carefree when she loses at the majors. That first set was a display of her talent, and one would need to be mainlining some serious crap to think she wll never win another major. She's too good not to.

Coco Gauff has lived up to expectations and won her home nation's major as her breakthrough. She's also the first African American woman to win this title since Sloane Stephens captured the title 6 years ago in 2017. Gauff joins the aforementioned Stephens and of course, Serena and Venus Williams as African American women responsible for winning 9 US Open titles in the 21st century so far (Serena - 5 / Venus - 2 / Stephens - 1 / Gauff - 1).

...and for the dullards who resented the idea of Gauff winning the US Open, claiming her mere presence in the finals was somehow "woke" (whatever hate-induced fantasy that is), well, you can enjoy this new, African American champion for the United States. Yes, its a great day for tennis.

As always, the updated list of majors winners since 2010:


Schiavone: FO - 2010

Clijsters: USO 2010 & AO 2011

Li Na: FO 2011 & AO 2014

Kvitova: Wimbledon 2011 & 2014

Stosur: USO 2011

Sharapova: FO 2012 & FO 2014

Azarenka: AO 2012 & 2013

Bartoli: Wimbledon 2013

Pennetta: USO 2015

Kerber: AO 2016, USO 2016 & Wimbledon 2018

Muguruza: FO 2016 & Wimbledon 2017

Ostapenko: FO 2017

Stephens: USO 2017

Wozniacki: AO 2018

Osaka: USO 2018, 2020 & AO 2019 and 2021

Barty: FO 2019, Wimbledon 2021 & A0 2022

Halep: FO 2018 & Wimbledon 2019

Andreescu: 2019 USO

Kenin: AO 2020

Krejčíková: FO 2021

Raducanu: USO 2021

Świątek: FO 2020 & 2022, 2023 & USO 2022

Rybakina: Wimbledon 2022

Sabalenka: AO 2023

Vondroušová: Wimbledon 2023

Gauff: USO 2023
 
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ACE of Hearts said:
Can she win though on this type of style. I don’t see much offense. It seems like she pushes the ball. Would be nice to see her smack the ball around but doesn’t seem like her style.
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...but she doesn't play every match with that style. For this match, it was the correct style. She stone-walled Sabalenka into a mountain of errors, which, given the fact that she couldn't really go "toe to toe" with her, makes sense. Love that she was willing to do that. Coco of even a year ago would have gone down swinging, making forehand error after forehand error.
 
Winners or Errors said:
...but she doesn't play every match with that style. For this match, it was the correct style. She stone-walled Sabalenka into a mountain of errors, which, given the fact that she couldn't really go "toe to toe" with her, makes sense. Love that she was willing to do that. Coco of even a year ago would have gone down swinging, making forehand error after forehand error.
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Yes, Coco played differently in previous rounds. She was more aggressive until tonight. I also thought that midway through the second set and until the end, she played with more agression and purpose than in the first half of the match.
 
Winners or Errors said:
Hmm, when your opponent is making you win every point four times, you're going to start racking up the errors if you have no plan other than to blow her off the court.
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Exactly, Sabalenka didnt come to the net when she hit Gauff off net, Guaff was able to float the ball back and bring it back to neutral. Sabalenka too inconsistent and reckless to hit that winning shot enough times in rally.
 
insideguy said:
I also love how rec players here be like well Sabs just hit the ball dumb, Coco had nothing to do with it. LOL.
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I like how Sabi has worked hard to improve her serve to something quite impressive, from something not even a rec player would envy ;)
 
intrepidish said:
Gauff moved her around a LOT in the 3rd set.

People see what they want to see
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she did indeed, and sabalenka isn't as nearly as dangerous on the run. still a performance she'd love to forget, but credit to coco for staying focused and not raising sabalenka's implosion with one of her own.

man on top of whatever they're working on i'd certainly be encouraging coco to get even faster, if possible. speed absolutely kills in the wta.
 
Fed881981 said:
Yes, Coco played differently in previous rounds. She was more aggressive until tonight. I also thought that midway through the second set and until the end, she played with more agression and purpose than in the first half of the match.
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No she wasn’t. She feasted on penko’s UEs as well.
 
Aabye5 said:
Brilliant idea from Brad. Now if only Agassi would read 'Open' out loud to Sebi...
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My dream. I've only seen Sebi play one brilliant match, the one against Med at this last Australian Open. Other than that, lovely strokes but just no tactical sense. It's sad, because I really like watching him hit the ball.
 
Winners or Errors said:
My dream. I've only seen Sebi play one brilliant match, the one against Med at this last Australian Open. Other than that, lovely strokes but just no tactical sense. It's sad, because I really like watching him hit the ball.
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You didn't like his match against Rafa?
 
Winners or Errors said:
My dream. I've only seen Sebi play one brilliant match, the one against Med at this last Australian Open. Other than that, lovely strokes but just no tactical sense. It's sad, because I really like watching him hit the ball.
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Adelaide final v Djoker was a good one
 
will coco play the Billie jean king Cup finals in spain this year ?? USA did make it into the final this year,, and has as good of chance of winning it all as any other nation.

The U.S. Billie Jean King Cup team will continue its quest for a record-extending 19th Billie Jean King Cup title this November at the Billie Jean King Cup by Gainbridge Finals.



Captain Kathy Rinaldi's team of Coco Gauff, Jessica Pegula, Danielle Collins, Caty McNally and Sofia Kenin defeated Austria 4-0 in Delray Beach, Fla. in April's qualifying round to book a spot in the final, at a site to be determined. The Finals will be played from Nov. 7-12.
 
ACE of Hearts said:
No she wasn’t. She feasted on penko’s UEs as well.
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Dude, what are you saying? I looked up the stats. Gauff was 13W/14UE. Ostapenko was 12W/36UE. Not only did Gauff hit more winners than Ostapenko, she did it with greater accuracy. So what are you saying? That Ostapenko's game was better? That she should have won? Does it excite you that a player just hits really hard even if the ball goes out? I just don't get it.

At this point, I think you're just trolling. It reminds me when Federer fans used to say that same thing about Nadal or Djokovic. The exact same thing.

I think Nadal's response was the best when Gulbis was complaining about how Nadal came back to beat him:

Sounds like you agree with Gulbis.
 
Looks like that was some match from Gauff. Big congrats to Coco who completely turned things around this North American hard court season.

Amazing run to the title. Well done. New York City and the US must have been ecstatic.
 
Reading this thread now, I had to leave right after Coco won her championship point.. I’m sorry I was watching a different match. Coco had me so nervous even towards the end because Sab was hitting that return so hard and no matter how hard the ball was hit when it went in, Coco was getting them back. Getting the ball over the net somehow.
She ran everything down with power and dynamic stop and starting. Sabalenka kept going to Cocos forehand and Coco doesn’t hit winners off that wing like crazy.
I thought it was a great, entertaining match and that at 4-2 it could have easily shifted.

Coco is no flash in the pan. The hype was that she should already have a slam. And now she does. So now if she makes more finals she’ll be relaxed.
She won DC. Cincinnati and The USO. Those are Davenport moves. One of the best summers by an American player since Davenport won everything but the USO in 04 or was it 05?

It reminded me of how Jankovic used to beat Serena and Venus and had a winning record against both for a time. Running everything down and sneaky power here and there. Sab Definitely reminded me of those times Venus would hit 40+ UEs in the late 00s early teens.

I’m so happy!! I got what I wanted. I hope Djokovic and Medvedev go 5 and give the crowd a wild, fun ride. But I could care less who wins. Just let it be fun.
 
a strange and contradictory aftertaste left after the match, from the one hand its great that coco won and im not a saba fan, otoh the way she won it hmm its a moot point and im not sure about its a right way we should have champs who winning a title, from the tennis fan standpoint, reminds me of that match meddy vs ndal at ao last year:giggle:, but well anyway guessin now its better to abstract away from thoughts like that..
 
I was going to post during the match that Coco maybe should've let go some of the defensive balls that she chased and conserved energy for the next point. But, I was wrong as the the 19yo never seemed to run out of gas and it didn't seem to affect her chance of winning the next point. Most importantly, this "make you opponent hit one extra ball" mentality can be very daunting and frustrating to her opponents.

Her defense yesterday was remarkable. At times it looked like Coco was Saba's punching bag. You can see the speed (and shape) difference between Saba's attack and Coco's defense. Even during rally, it already looked like Coco was on the defense.

Eventually this started to draw UE from Sabalenka. Then the rest is history.

Some stats: (Coco vs Saba)

1st serve percentage: 66 vs 52
Winners: 13 vs 25
unforced errors: 19 vs 46

The rest of the stats are similar with Coco having slightly better numbers for almost all categories except for "1st Serve Points Won" and "1st Return Points Won".

I didn't expect Coco to call out the doubters during her speech. :)

Whatever doubts people initially think about BG's contribution before this win, it must've worked - even if it's not technical (yet?), it probably helps Coco mentally to just have someone like him in her camp. BG is a thinker / strategist. The game plan worked.

Kudos to BG (still not a fan of him taking too much as commentator :-D)

Congrats Coco! Now show all the doubters you're not a one-Slam wonder.
 
Gauff came back from a set down three times in this USO: R1, R3 and F. She also played a 3-setter against Wozniacki. 4 matches went to distance and she was still running like a gazelle until the last point yesterday.

And she of course played a lot of doubles.
 
Rattie said:
Love this! Go Coco! And it being her home slam makes it all the more special. I’m delighted for her :love:
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Me too! It isn't just the romance of a first time winner, but after starting out so young ( the crowds at Wimbledon loved her when she first played there) and those years of frustration in realising her potential - it's a wonderful achievement for the youngster. Well done Coco!

This is a nice article:

 
Aussie Darcy said:
Looks like that was some match from Gauff. Big congrats to Coco who completely turned things around this North American hard court season.

Amazing run to the title. Well done. New York City and the US must have been ecstatic.
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Did you see where she personally thanked you in her speech? ;)
 
ACE of Hearts said:
Not a sexy style and pretty boring. I don’t think Gauff can change her game. I think this is her. Curious to see how many slams she could win like this.
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Maybe 5-6. The French Open should be meat and drink if/when she figures out how to combat Swiatek. Can see her winning that two or three times, potentially

Elsewhere I think she'll suffer a fair few disappointments. I also wonder if that insane side to side athleticism will cause her issues as she gets towards 30.
 
Fed881981 said:
Yes, Coco played differently in previous rounds. She was more aggressive until tonight. I also thought that midway through the second set and until the end, she played with more agression and purpose than in the first half of the match.
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She did a lot of moving the ball side to side, not bashing as hard as Sabalenka, but keeping Sabalenka on the move.
 
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