2023 will be the last year Nadal and Djokovic win slams
One of most in depth well calculated projections.
Challenger level draws including someone that beat both Federer and Nadal at AO and the last two US Open champions. Seems like both Federer and Nadal belong to the Future tournaments lmfao
What is it with Federer and Nadal fans being so desperate to push their favorite players further down on the list of all time greats? Does being SOAT and TOAT not bad enough that y'all want those two to fight for being the FOAT?
Winning ONE match in the entire year? 1-3 overall? The way Rafans talk, you'd think he won 100 matches this year
Tommy Paul, mentally broken Tstistipas, Shelton, Ruud, Cramping Alcaraz. Yikes.
Vincent-C
Legend
Be fair, now: tiny snuck in a Major in 2023, too!
"Mentally broken" Tsitsipas beat Federer and Nadal for fun at AO. Yikes.
Fedal combined for 1 match won this whole year. Yikes Yikes.
Vincent-C
Legend
When did Tsitsipas last win a Major?
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Obviously Philippoussis, Gonzalez, Baghdatis, Kiefer, etc. are much harder opponents
Never. Still, beating Federer and Nadal for fun at AO.
How dare you forget about Ljubicic and Davydenko, the co #3 during that time who failed to reach a single GS Final?
Vincent-C
Legend
They were both very good players.How dare you forget about Ljubicic and Davydenko, the co #3 during that time who failed to reach a single GS Final?
Not even as good as Tsitsipas at the age of 25 though.
Vincent-C
Legend
I think Tsitsi would have had a tough time with Davydenko, in particular.
Vincent-C
Legend
For a minute there- until you said that- I thought you might know something about tennis.
No further comment..
No need for further comment. It's obvious your only knowledge about tennis is that Federer's competition is strong despite their inferior results. Sadly, 24 speaks loud and clear.
Welcome new user. I wonder what makes you think I’m a “Federer and Nadal fan”, or why your literal first post on the forum is bumping a year old thread to quote my post. Anyways, it seems this one will be a short stay.What is it with Federer and Nadal fans being so desperate to push their favorite players further down on the list of all time greats? Does being SOAT and TOAT not bad enough that y'all want those two to fight for being the FOAT?
Did I say you are a Fedal fan? One can't ask a general question anymore? If you aren't, then sorry I must have quoted the wrong person that wished Alcaraz to "win the slam race for Nadal"
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Looking at Mannarino’s 2nd tier vulturing anything is possible; although the cavalry consistently threaten an arrival.
If Sinner had tanked one point against Rune, the future would appear somewhat closer.
If Sinner had tanked one point against Rune, the future would appear somewhat closer.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
But Djokovic not winning the Tour Finals wouldn't erase his 3 Slam season
Also, until his win last year, Djokovic hadn't won the YEC since 2015. Yet he won a bunch of Slams in that same period
The title in the OP may still turn out to be right though, if Djokovic and Nadal don't win any Slams from this point on
Take me back to summer 2022 man
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm now even more at peace with Djokovic and Nadal not winning any more from this point on
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
They are desperate little boys, who are trying to cope even today, they will get on any bandwagon just to see Nole stopped.What is it with Federer and Nadal fans being so desperate to push their favorite players further down on the list of all time greats? Does being SOAT and TOAT not bad enough that y'all want those two to fight for being the FOAT?
Tbf I would have supported almost anyone vs Nadal in AO 22 final but I boycotted the whole season.
Razer
G.O.A.T.
Highly dramatic period it has been since then....
- Wimbledon 2022 - It was all about make a statement that he is still not finished
- Missed US open 2022 and we had Alcaraz as a teenager winner
- Aus open 2023 - It was ruthless aggression in Australia, he literally provided tennis version of capital punishment to De Minaur in Australia and won the title
- French Open 2023 - More about the Alcaraz hype and breaking the record amidst it
- Wimbledon 2023 - Alcaraz ruined his season with a big win
- US open 2023 - Novak returns to USA and again wins it, in between the phone call celebration drama
in between there has been drama like cinci, atp finals and all that.....
More drama awaits now, I hope 2024 gives up epic drama of all proportions. I want Novak to destroy Nadal in 1 final clash between the 2, preferably a swift execution at the Aus Open or the Olympics ? What do you say? @nachiket nolefam @Kralingen
Yeah at this point there’s nothing left to root for or against records wise. Djokovic has obliterated basically everything, the debate is over. All I care about is memorable matches and entertainment
I hope Nadal comes back for one last hurrah at RG and also adds drama to the Olympics held there. But I don’t necessarily expect much of him, we all know his body will let him down at some point. Just hope he can give us one last classic before it does
Carlos-Sinner rivalry is awesome and I’d like to see more of it. I hope Rune or Shelton can take the next step too. Just give me guys who are going to push Djokovic to the limit
Razer
G.O.A.T.
That was always gonna happen, since Federer looked finished I always knew the first half of the 2020s decade would be all about Djokovic vs the 2000s born youngsters, that's the new story since Nadal is not capable of inflicting any serious dents and the 1990s men truly incapable of anything in life.
So we knew that it was upto 2000s boys, either they will have to climb up in level to him or he will have to climb down to match them, but what we saw is Djokovic has no intention of climbing down, he is almost stable at whatever declined level that he is operating at.... So they will have to climb up and I am sure they will at some point, they are capable of doing that unlike 90s men.
At thing point I am almost sure that Djokovic is gonna decline alone with Med-Tsitsipas-Zverev, when they are past their prime he too will be past winning slams..... mind boggling since they are all a decade younger to him, lol. Kyrgios already is semi retired and he is like 8 years younger.
maybe Tsitsipas will also retire along with Djokovic because by that time Carlos-Sinner-Rune-Ben would all be so strong that Stefanos will have 0 hope of touching them ..... At least Med has managed to sneak in a slam.... good for him, he wont retire a complete failure, tough luck for Zverev and Stefanos, their futures seem dark. The 1990s is a dark generation in Tennis.
jmacdaununder2
Legend
So apparently everything points to a Nogold CYGGS - if this statistically unlikely occurrence comes to fruition one of the big three would at least be slightly more than half way to emulating Rod Laver.
So it seems like I got almost every detail wrong except the main one in the title. I thought Djokovic would slowly decline from 2022 to 2024 but instead it seems he declined none at all in 2023 and then fell off a cliff in 2024, which was different than I expected, but somehow ended up creating the same result.
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