2023 Wimbledon R2: Novak Djokovic vs. Jordan Thompson

Who wins?

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They should implement a rule saying TBs don't have to be played if they involve Djoker, just give them to him and move on to the next set.
 
MeatTornado said:
So in that tiebreak we've got a

-Chopped down on a slice for a comical error
-Double-fault
-Blocked 2nd serve into the net

Not to say Novak isn't genuinely incredible himself in tiebreaks, but I swear the man just has to hit a couple 1st serves and it's over.
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That 2nd serve was 113 mph. Let's not leave that out.
 
Martin J said:
Yep, hard to compete against someone who doesn't let you play, and Pete was an expert at it, especially on grass.
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Yep - most people bring about technicalities about specific strokes etc etc, but it doesn't matter.
Pete had the best serve and the best backup behind it. His speed, net rushes, half volleys and volleys were absolutely incredible. He was also by far the GREATEST clutch server of all time.
Finally because of his serve and ability to hold, he would put BIG TIME pressure on your return game. The offensive barrage from the ground (in return games) and the ability to attack the net in neutral rallies would leave even the best players shaken.
Look at what Pete did to Agassi in Wimbledon 1999. Would Novak or Fed be ever able to do that?
You can't play your normal game when the other player is so offensive and very clutch. Pete was the GREATEST FASTCOURT tennis player the world has EVER seen.
 
TennisFan3 said:
Yep - most people bring about technicalities about specific strokes etc etc, but it doesn't matter.
Pete had the best serve and the best backup behind it. His speed to net rush, half volleys and volleys were absolutely incredible. He was also by far the GREATEST clutch server of all time.
Finally because of his serve and ability to hold, he would put BIG TIME pressure on your return game. The offensive barrage from the ground and the ability to attack the net in neutral rallies would leave even the best players shaken.
Look at what Pete did to Agassi in Wimbledon 1999. Would Novak or Fed be ever able to do that?
You can't play your normal game when the other player is so offensive and very clutch. Pete was the GREATEST FASTCOURT tennis player the world has EVER seen.
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Definitely think peak Pete would've been a favorite against peak anyone else on grass. Novak and Fed may have given him a little trouble, but his brand of tennis was so tough to get any rhythm against.
 
TennisFan3 said:
Yep - most people bring about technicalities about specific strokes etc etc, but it doesn't matter.
Pete had the best serve and the best backup behind it. His speed, net rushes, half volleys and volleys were absolutely incredible. He was also by far the GREATEST clutch server of all time.
Finally because of his serve and ability to hold, he would put BIG TIME pressure on your return game. The offensive barrage from the ground (in return games) and the ability to attack the net in neutral rallies would leave even the best players shaken.
Look at what Pete did to Agassi in Wimbledon 1999. Would Novak or Fed be ever able to do that?
You can't play your normal game when the other player is so offensive and very clutch. Pete was the GREATEST FASTCOURT tennis player the world has EVER seen.
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Agree with all points and nice to see that Pete is still very much appreciated around here.
 
Tweener said:
Definitely think peak Pete would've been a favorite against peak anyone else on grass. Novak and Fed may have given him a little trouble, but his brand of tennis was so tough to get any rhythm against.
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Yes. Exactly my point. You can't compare stroke vs stroke. Pete's game was tailor made to impose his game on other players and not allow them to get into any rhythm of execution.
 
I don't know how Thompson finds the energy to do all those facial expressions and body expressions after each point. Totally pointless.
 
I do feel Djokovic isn't firing on all cylinders yet, and Thompson's body language is still very good. He's making Djokovic work for it out there.
 
ChrisRF said:
I agree. There is a reason why S&V died. The peak Federer onslaught was superior anyway. His serve plus first forehand combination was just as lethal as S&V after a good serve, but after a mediocre serve he was able to construct the point otherwise, while a S&V player gets passed.

Also while it would certainly be difficult for Djokovic to break someone like Sampras, people often forget that it would likely be even harder the other way around. Not necessarily because of Djokovic's serve (although that is underrated as well), but the S&V volley players including Sampras wouldn't get into rallyes or to the net often enough to do some damage. I would still much rather trust Djokovic to get the one decisive break than the opponent. And in a tiebreak he's also the favourite against anyone. Also don't forget that all those great 90s servers (again including Sampras) made quite a lot of double faults.

It's almost impossible to just serve through 6 games against Djokovic. Respect to Thompson by the way that he did it just now. Who knows, maybe this Thompson actually would have been a great S&V player of the 90s and simply shows that more isn't possible these days.
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One could serve through Djokovic 6 games and a tie break. But you need 18 games and 3 tie breaks to win the match unless you are Federer from 2012 who beside putting on a clinical serving performance had a great overall game, which 90s players lacked.
 
So if Wawrinka wants to play Djokovic, he's going to have to play on consecutive days, right?
:whistle:
 
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jm1980 said:
Mug returning performance from Novak, making Thompson look like Pete Sampras out there
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Has no idea where it's going and we're late into the 3rd set now. Most likely the effects of not playing much recently and playing him for the 1st time. Thompson has served strong today though.
 
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