Novak will not be there, where he is, if there was no Rafa and Roger.Novak has build his game battling against prime Fedal. YOUNGSTERS SHOULD NEVER FORGET THIS. BECOME LIKE FEDAL OR GET DESTROYED. SIMPLE AS THAT.
Sinner could use a good backhand slice for starters good to have more options.Youngsters need to match Fedal standard of Tennis in order to stop Djokovic. Very high bar. Can't blame them.
Sarebbe fantastico se le ATP Finals si giocassero a Torino ancora per qualche anno.I wasn't there today, mercifully. Both sessions Thursday then some sightseeing Friday. I've always been opposed to paying a ton for one match, but it was definitely a cool setup, I must say. And my son had a blast (he even tried pickleball at the fan village!).
Breaking news: it appears the Finals will be in Turin at least until 2027.
So another Fed records gone.
Fed has got 20 - 6 - 310. But Djokovic took it another level making it 24 - 7 - 400. Nobody will going to beat these all round stats.
Congrats kid. You completed.. The tutorial. To try the higher stakes thing again, click "Participate" next to the Australian Open section.What a contest. Match of the year probably. And much more fitting that this level of performance is the one that ended Djokovic's winning streak rather than some random match where he didn't want to bother.
Djokovic's occasional suicidal SnVs aside, some of Sinner's returns were crazy regardless. And a sight to behold how effortlessly he was generating power, even when hitting on the rise all those times. Hope he teaches Rune and Carlos many lessons going forward. Definitely earned my support for the future alongside Mad Lad, if Djokovic ever decides to retire at some point.
As far as this week is concerned though, fancy a rematch, kid? Sunday evening, same place. Be there...
One day someone will beat those figures but I expect it may not be for at least 25 or 30 yrs unless Alcaraz can really hit top gear and stay there and that is not guaranteed by any means
Or... he is just that good and that much better than the rest.Now Novak is in every top player’s head.
Also, my kid was stoked that he can play in the Road to Torino junior circuit, where the winners of a number of regional Under-11 and Under-13 tournaments get to play a parallel mini-master in Turin while the real thing is happening (as well as go to the matches, meet some players etc). He isn't eligible to compete until exactly 2027...Sarebbe fantastico se le ATP Finals si giocassero a Torino ancora per qualche anno.
Il peccatore avrebbe maggiori possibilità di essere un profeta nella sua terra.
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As of now they are not on that level yet. Certainly not SinnerCome on, Sinner and Alcaraz will become ATGs. Maybe Rune as well. I admit that even ATG (5 or 6 Slams) isn't a high standard compared to the big 3 anymore, but that's another discussion.
Anyway, I would't be surprised if Alcaraz and Sinner will become REALLY great players. Just not as great as Djokovic.
LmaoI really hope these guys can regroup for the AO.
Some might even retire sooner than him. It's happened with previous ATG candidates like Nishikori or Raonic.He's not Djokovic-level though. He's beatable by a handful of players that will still be on the tour when Djokovic is truely gone. Zverev/Tsitsipas/Medvedev will still be there, Sinner and Rune are still going to be there. He's good but not that good. Nah I think Novak's stats will remain for a long long time, if not forever.
Well at least the butthurt Rafans are butthurting like crazy... there's always a silver lining!
That, and 300 bucks to go drink away my sorrows
Feel bad that Sinner played so horribly and couldn't even make a match of it when he had his chances - which he did.
But congratulations to the one true goat of tennis. The highlander lives on.
Here is the story, not yet official but leaked as a done deal by Sky Italy. Apparently they get 2 extra years as a "compensation" for the revenue loss of the Covid-plagued editions. Which, by the way, means there's pretty much no chance they renew for another full 5+year cycle, and the event will be played elsewhere starting in 2028.Breaking news: it appears the Finals will be in Turin at least until 2027.
Here is the story, not yet official but leaked as a done deal by Sky Italy. Apparently they get 2 extra years as a "compensation" for the revenue loss of the Covid-plagued editions. Which, by the way, means there's pretty much no chance they renew for another full 5+year cycle, and the event will be played elsewhere starting in 2028.
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ATP Finals: Torino fino al 2027? Una possibile "compensazione" per il biennio condizionato dal COVID
Tennis - ATP, evidenza, Italiani, Rubriche | Secondo l'indiscrezione raccolta da SKY Sport, l'ATP avrebbe firmato un accordo "ponte" per allungare di 2 anni la permanenza delle Nitto ATP Finals a Torinowww.ubitennis.com
LOL man, you really have issues.
We just don’t know yet. Nadal on hard court at that age was very beatable, not to mention how much djokovic has improved. You also do not need to be good at indoors at all to be a tier 1 ATG as we see with Nadal. Alcaraz’s serve is improving as we see this week outserving or matching all the great servers he faced this week (unreturned serve percentages also aced djokovic a lot in a short match) despite not playing well at all, which is actually a good sign in some sense.He's not Djokovic-level though. He's beatable by a handful of players that will still be on the tour when Djokovic is truely gone. Zverev/Tsitsipas/Medvedev will still be there, Sinner and Rune are still going to be there. He's good but not that good. Nah I think Novak's stats will remain for a long long time, if not forever.
Yes.So now it‘s 7:0 Djokovic Nadal?
Djokovic actually has a better winning percentage this year with 90% than Federer had in 2007 with 88.5%.Djokovic is one game away from equalling Federer's 2007 season
3 slams
1 slam RU
2 masters
YEC
Year ending number one
Risk? You mean the risk to lose to Alcaraz in the semi, I can see that totally happen if Sinner lost to Rune, he won't even be in the final!It's 200 points for win in RR vs the 500 points win in final. And the big achievement of winning year end masters. Why put all of this to risk
They said he set a personal ace record for a tournament outside of a slam.At 36, has Novak ever served that well?
The drama of whether Novak will drop one set or zero will be spine-tingling lolao should be great
i can say the same based on recent win, a piece of cake for sure lolThe drama of whether Novak will drop one set or zero will be spine-tingling lol
Good summation. Sinner simply didn’t look like himself, and I have to think it was nerves. I haven’t seen a sports story dominate the Italian media and consciousness to this level in a long time. Even the Lazio radio station has been talking more about him than Lazio the past couple of days, plus the match on RAI 1 basically means the entire country was watching. I’m confident this will only push him to improve even more.Sinner was tight and running a bit on fumes. Djokovic served and followed up godly from the get go. We won't see that kind of first set level against Sinner soon, I'm pretty sure about that. Actually maybe Novak will never do that again to Sinner as there is no other place with such a combo of altitude and slickness.
Congrats to him for the title, lucky and earned. He might have spurned Sinner on to greater heights...
Would you have hated Sinner if he intentionally lost to Holger in the round robin to eliminate Djokovic so he has no shot at the winning this tournament ?? He could have done that if he was smart....
Can happen. But which is more likelier, Rune reaching the final and beating Sinner or Djokovic beating him the finals.Imagine he did tank and then Rune beats him in the final. Not only the same outcome but far worse since he'd get less money, fewer points, a terrible Rune H2H, and lose his momentum.
No I mean risk winning the tournament. Yes he could have lost to Alcaraz. But he could have won also. The moment Djokovic was put into semis, it was all overRisk? You mean the risk to lose to Alcaraz in the semi, I can see that totally happen if Sinner lost to Rune, he won't even be in the final!
Can happen. But which is more likelier, Rune reaching the final and beating Sinner or Djokovic beating him the finals.
Comparing Rune with a guy who won 24 grand slams and 3 this year only is a joke.
Well u can say u he(Sinner) would be less confident for Australian open that's all.But still, it would do nothing for his confidence. Besides, with all his unforced errors, he probably would have lost to anyone.
Well u can say u he(Sinner) would be less confident for Australian open that's all.
One has to be ruthless to win these big tournaments. Sinner lacks that, plain and simple. He is high on morality but that doesn't help anyone