I think the phone when recording is picking up the Pickleball behind me and filters out the tennis as it is further away. Oops gaha
Amen amen
It was.. so was the 97. The P100 I only hit a few minutes with, but nothing stood out so can’t form an opinion on it.
What’s your leather goto?
Why not simply demo it yourself and find out. You more or less know by now from reading through the numerous posts that the Percepts are quite close to its predecessor. At some point instead of wondering how it stacks up against everything comparable, go out and do it yourself. You’ll be the better for it and not be so reliant on everyone else’s opinion. Remember, it’s how does the racket feel/perform while in your hands that count.
I completely agree with you, but every demo I get comes with crap strings it's really hard to truly tell how good the racket is.
True! I’ve found that half the time strings are crap, the other times I cut them out and restring them with a string I like to get a fair evaluation of the racquet. I have my own stringer though which makes it easier. If it’s a local store vs online, you could ask them to restring it.
That's why you get demo's from an online retailer (TW, T-P, TE, etc.) then immediately cut the demo string and put in your benchmark poly at your preferred dynamic tension (DT). It may not be seen as completely kosher by some, but cutting the demo string is usually not a big deal, as they usually restrung every few shipments anyways.
Not on those models specifically, but I can offer a general predictive comparison, as I own the VCP 97 and 97D, and have plenty of hours on the G360+ Speed Pro, PS97 v13 and Blade v6, so I think I can extrapolate pretty well, knowing what changes have been made to each silo since the models I tried... That said, you didn't specify which model(s) of Percept you're interesting in comparing... I'll presume the 97 and 100 unless you say otherwise.
Personally felt a bit more power but less control and slightly less spin with V8 16x19 than VCP 97 both customized to similar specs.
Is this the 100 version ? Many thanks
Can you please elaborate as to the differences between the '21 VCP 97 vs the new Percept 97. I have read the feel is a little crisper, but is there really a noticeable increase in power? With a similar, yet slightly different swingweight does your maneuverability and/or swing speed (esp. on serves) feel any different when playing?
Yes this is the 100
swings the same but offers a lot more feedback. Firmer but not to point it loses that VCP/Percept flex and feel. It’s firm to the point it gives you better connection with the ball and added stiffness for just enough power that you don’t feel like you’re working 10x harder. It’s still pretty low powered but in a very good way that people hope to have when using a control frame.
high art
60 kg poly, let's go new arm !
Thank you for your response. I'm looking mostly for arm friendliness, feel, and control. I hit with natural gut as well. How would you rank the Yonex in terms of arm comfort, and why did you rank them last in terms of feel? I feel like the SP is kinda muted, so wouldn't want to go more muted than it.
I currently have 4 Yonex racquets that are all within a couple points of spec. I add 2-3 grams to 10/2 to get swing weight up to preferred weight anyway. Yonex is probably the best about QC.Been nice going through this thread
I'm currently between a Blade V7 16x19 and a UP 18x20 and want to buy the P97 for an extensive playtest. Love the feel of the UP18 but found I can play with better variety with a 16x19 during tournament play. The UP16 lacked some oomph (even with lead) compared to the other 2 (which is why I bought the UP18) and the blade is too flimsy up at net. Hence the the P97, since I'm really starting to develop a volley + doubles style of play.
Is Yonex QC good enough for me to get the racquet through TWE without the matching service ?
Any string recommendation as well ? My go to string set up is Solinco Outlast 1.25 @21kg
Thanks
The D requires significant head speed and swipe to get proper arc on the ball -- more speed and swipe than most rec players, of any level, can keep up with physically, at least over even moderately-long periods of time. It's wonderful to hit with, especially if you are the one that get's to do most of the dictating (either because you're at least 1/4 level higher than your partner, or you've got the physical edge, or both), but even so, IMHO most are still better off with other sticks, per @dr. godmode's final thoughts on TennCom. Still, hitting with the D is just a ton of fun and so addictive when you're stepping in and on the attack.
Would probably help if I didn't have to clench cheeks every time I hit the ball with the TW strings. Felt metallic.
Do you know what your racquets swing weight is? Your RHS will decrease with added weight to the hoop & higher swing weight. Try two grams , it should help a little. You can also try tail weighting a little to make racquet more HL.
Aside from potentially playing an actual Percept layup, it's quite possible he kept the layup the same and only had a Percept paint job, but just couldn't visually acclimate to the paint job itself -- it is quite a bit lighter in overall tone, which may be distracting for those who may just be visually attuned to darker-colored frames. For example, Djokovic was apparently not a fan of any Speed paint jobs with a predominantly all-white hoop, ie. G360+ (supposedly to such an extent as to be one of the main driving reasons why the colorway "flipped" back to a black hoop for the Auxetic version). Likewise, plenty of pro's have side-stepped to previous/alternate/"limited edition" PJ's for such mental/focus reasons, less so physical playability reasons, and I wouldn't exclude that as a possibility in Tiafoe's case...
Yeah, I am thinking he tried the actual Percept layup, and simply didn't gel with it in the previous events. That said, I could see how a big change in paint color could be distracting. The older 2019 Green was also pretty dark, so he would be used to a darker shade for sure.
you could also try moving the same weight a bit further down on the hoop (eg 4 and 8). to maintain a fairly similar twistweight with a slightly lower swingweight.
The Percept 97 has a bit more pop to it compared to the outgoing VCP 97. As the hoop is firmer and more torsionally stable, the ball comes off a little quicker and cleaner on the whole. It’s not a major uptick mind you, it’s subtle yet appreciable. This can be applied to the entire lineup when comparing to the ‘21 VCP equivalents. Where I saw the biggest gains were up at net, returns, and serves. Just a bit more stable surface area so when you do mishit, the ball isn’t as apt to just wither. I felt with each model there was a little more margin for error. Again not earth shattering in terms of breakthrough power, but enough to say it’s a marked improvement overall. As for how the Percepts swings compared to the outgoing VCP’s, the two models which I felt the most change were with the 97H & 97D, with the H feeling a little quicker due to slight drop in swing weight whereas the D felt a touch heavier compared to the VCP.
It also could be a mental thing, he used the previous paint job to reach the semi-final last year, percept just released not long ago before US open, he could be not used to the new paint job or just simply wanna have the good luck he had last year. It's better to play a familiar frame for the big events.
Oh lol, you all already noticed. Not a big deal to anyone wanting to buy it just interesting. Is he also not using it in matches?
