2023 Yonex VCore Pro Racquets / 2024 Percept Racquets

[Ryebread]

Nerd alert

I just put a leather grip on

100D is supposed to be 305 grams
mine is an under spec 100D
301.07 / 31.65

so I put some weight under the door, bringing her to be on spec!
305.04 / 31.65

plus poly, overgrip, lightweight dampener
331.97 / 32.05

I played a great match with it today, I REALLY felt the difference between this and my other racquets that are 10 grams heavier.

I removed the weight from the tail and the original grip
I installed a leather grip, and overgrip)
335.94 / 31.80
if it was on spec, it would be 3.93 grams heavier, for 339.87

remember I removed some tailweight,
so I've only added 3.97 grams, when adding the leather. but it's distributed differently now.
it's almost as if the 100d came to me at 309 grams which is prob closer to what it "should be", a 310 stick IMO

maybe it'll have more plow/stability, with the extra 4 grams, since it's throughout the handle and not just under the door.
we shall see.

I just checked the swing weight on a very expensive machine.

100d under spec
Leather grip
Specs above

SW 332

 

[gp141]

How's the Toroline compared to polytour rev if you've tried that? I've been contemplating ordering a set of Toroline strings just to see if the hype is real

I haven't tried rev but i've tried polytour pro (strung at 52/52) in this racket. It wasn't bad, but I feel the Toroline gives a softer feel, although the tension was different so it's hard to compare exactly!

 

[Ryebread]

Toroline is certainly getting a lot of hype. Wondering if it’s just ambassadors pumping it up. Or if it’s truly a gem.

 

[Circa 1762]

Toroline is certainly getting a lot of hype. Wondering if it’s just ambassadors pumping it up. Or if it’s truly a gem.

Haven’t tried it myself, but I play with a guy who is definitely not an ambassador but raves about Toroline, so I don’t think it’s entirely hype.

 

[vndesu]

Toroline is certainly getting a lot of hype. Wondering if it’s just ambassadors pumping it up. Or if it’s truly a gem.

I would def give it a try since imo I think its a good poly for the price.

Ive always tried to go back to hyper g soft when trying to save my Toroline sets, but it seems as of late I have a love/hate relationship with hyper g.

 

[Pooschnikens]

How's the Toroline compared to polytour rev if you've tried that? I've been contemplating ordering a set of Toroline strings just to see if the hype is real

Probably the closest Toroline offering that’s close to PT Rev would be their toro toro string. It’s a hexagonal shaped poly so perhaps a little better grab of the ball. It’s also fairly slick so if you hybrid it with a slick round like PT Fire or PT Strike, you’ll definitely get good snap back.
I had used their Wasabi string which I liked. Think of a softer version of Volkl V-Square.

 

[TennisManiac]

Toroline is certainly getting a lot of hype. Wondering if it’s just ambassadors pumping it up. Or if it’s truly a gem.

It seems to be the flavor of the week. I've noticed over the past 20 years or so that there is always a new flavor of the week in the string industry. How many of them have stood the test of time? Not many at all. Most just fade away. Will Toroline be one of them? My money says yes.

 

[Yamin]

It seems to be the flavor of the week. I've noticed over the past 20 years or so that there is always a new flavor of the week in the string industry. How many of them have stood the test of time? Not many at all. Most just fade away. Will Toroline be one of them? My money says yes.

They were making strings I'd even call bad just a year ago, but seems like their newer strings are getting a lot of attention.

 

[delosalpes]

Flavor of the week for sure but that doesn’t necessarily make them bad strings. It’s hard to compete with the big boys. A business has to to what it’s got to do to make itself viable. I’ve tried a few. Hated wasabi in a full bed and same with Enso, but love wasabi crossed with Enso in my P97. Both pink (I know) but it looks good in the percepts. Both are very slick and muted. That seems to be the theme with their strings. Wasabi square with soft edges and Enso round. One stand out is Caviar which is yellow, lively, crisp, grippy, and less slick. I like it a lot in my P97H in the 1.20. Another nice thing is that they split their sets so you don’t have to measure them out and they give you a bit extra length, so nice if you’re stringing a 18x20. Just my 2 cents.

 

[MSUspartans777]

I've tried almost all of Toroline's string offerings and can confidently say that some of them are fantastic and others I found lacking. I don't think they are a flavor of the week type of string company. As long as they don't oversaturate the market with too many types I think they will stick around.

Current favorite is the Enso Pro, super soft and powerful round poly. Super Toro is also very impressive. The KPro Hybrid is also a go to for me.

 

[Chuonfood]

Someone who’s actually played with the Blade 100 v8 and the 100D care to compare?

 

[Ryebread]

Someone who’s actually played with the Blade 100 v8 and the 100D care to compare?

100d has more control and precision, more consistent bed, more stability and plow. Better touch and net play. Feels crisp.

Blade is more comfy. Slightly larger sweet spot. You get a little more for free.

Both nice frames overall for someone who is seeking a control frame, but wants decent maneuverability.

 

[Federerkblade]

100d has more control and precision, more consistent bed, more stability and plow. Better touch and net play. Feels crisp.

Blade is more comfy. Slightly larger sweet spot. You get a little more for free.

Both nice frames overall for someone who is seeking a control frame, but wants decent maneuverability.

Would say 100d can do a little more blade 100 a little more blunt but 100 blade is a phoeomenal frame

With spin it is also amazing both very enjoyable and if you had both great to mix and play and enjoy tennis

 

[parasailing]

Would say 100d can do a little more blade 100 a little more blunt but 100 blade is a phoeomenal frame

With spin it is also amazing both very enjoyable and if you had both great to mix and play and enjoy tennis

Waiting for the new Blade v9 100 to see how it compares.

 

[Sahbatage]

I may not be picking up my vcore95s again...

Finally got to hit with my 100D. It was 1 gram under spec. I don't have an accurate way to measure balance but it seemed more head heavy than the 6pt head light spec TW has posted. I strung it with Tour Hex @ 48/45. Holding it with a finger in the throat, the racket balanced pretty much parallel to the floor. I added 3 grams under the stock grip near the butt cap and threw on an overgrip. Helped the balance slightly. Overall static weight at 331g strung with these mods.

Compared to the VC95... I was surprised at how easy it was to hit with! Maybe I shouldn't have going from a 95 to a 100 but in my head I was expecting every ball to sail. The racket seemed to adjust well for both flat and topspin shots. OHBH wasn't sluggish either with the bigger frame... slightly slower rhs, but by no means sluggish. I wasn't playing with heavy hitters (just a friendly doubles match) so I am curious how it fares against some pace. Without weight in the hoop, the racket was still stable on service returns. Solid feeling overall. I can't comment on touch shots as I need to get dialed in. No problem with backhand slices.

The not as great... a few off-center shots did feel jarring. Not so much "hurt your arm" jarring but I did feel the vibration through my arm. I never experienced this with the VC95s. Also, some balls would sail a little with poor timing. I think I may be able to dial this in a bit by strining without the crosses looser than the mains.

I had (and sold) the 97D before and that was a great stick! Just a bit too heavy for me. It is definitely more "pinpoint accurate" compared to the 100D. Felt like a weighted up VC95 with a slightly better sweet spot.

All in all, I can see this being a good choice for a big percentages of players in the 3.5 to 4.5 range.

 

[gp141]

I may not be picking up my vcore95s again...

Finally got to hit with my 100D. It was 1 gram under spec. I don't have an accurate way to measure balance but it seemed more head heavy than the 6pt head light spec TW has posted. I strung it with Tour Hex @ 48/45. Holding it with a finger in the throat, the racket balanced pretty much parallel to the floor. I added 3 grams under the stock grip near the butt cap and threw on an overgrip. Helped the balance slightly. Overall static weight at 331g strung with these mods.

Compared to the VC95... I was surprised at how easy it was to hit with! Maybe I shouldn't have going from a 95 to a 100 but in my head I was expecting every ball to sail. The racket seemed to adjust well for both flat and topspin shots. OHBH wasn't sluggish either with the bigger frame... slightly slower rhs, but by no means sluggish. I wasn't playing with heavy hitters (just a friendly doubles match) so I am curious how it fares against some pace. Without weight in the hoop, the racket was still stable on service returns. Solid feeling overall. I can't comment on touch shots as I need to get dialed in. No problem with backhand slices.

The not as great... a few off-center shots did feel jarring. Not so much "hurt your arm" jarring but I did feel the vibration through my arm. I never experienced this with the VC95s. Also, some balls would sail a little with poor timing. I think I may be able to dial this in a bit by strining without the crosses looser than the mains.

I had (and sold) the 97D before and that was a great stick! Just a bit too heavy for me. It is definitely more "pinpoint accurate" compared to the 100D. Felt like a weighted up VC95 with a slightly better sweet spot.

All in all, I can see this being a good choice for a big percentages of players in the 3.5 to 4.5 range.

One of us, one of us... But really, it's interesting how many VC95ers are moving to the 100D and all seem to have similar thoughts.

I actually agree with you on it feeling more jarring actually even though I never saw this reported anywhere else, although in my opinion a bit of lead up at 12 has softened it up for me.

 

[Yamin]

Has anyone gripped down on the 97D and found better shape while retaining stability?

 

[MiddlingPlayer]

Experimenting with lead at various spots I've settled on 12 o'clock on the 97D. I feel that adds the most pop to the frame and I'm not seeing any benefits from adding it elsewhere(3 &9, 10 &2, Handle).

 

[Trip]

But really, it's interesting how many VC95ers are moving to the 100D and all seem to have similar thoughts.

Not entirely surprising, at least for those who are facing enough intensity. And yes, any rec player can make any size head work if that's what they simply prefer, but if the stick with the larger head and more consistent string bed gives you more upsides than downsides, in the right ways, then it's the no-brainer choice most of the time, at least for competitive play.

 

[delosalpes]

Has anyone gripped down on the 97D and found better shape while retaining stability?

As a matter of fact, my first (VCP 97D) was an L3. Found a crack at the top corner and replaced it with an L2. I feel like I’m in between a Yonex L3 and L2. And while I liked my first one, I fell in love with it in an L2. Not sure if it was the smaller grip size—could have been that it was slightly under spec—but it was (is) easy to swing, maneuver, shape the ball, and get good topspin. Just writing about it makes make want to restring it and give it another spin…or order a P97D.

 

[Trip]

I feel like I’m in between a Yonex L3 and L2.

For an L2.5 with sharper bevel feel and maybe a tiny bit less weight, go L3 with a Kimony Techni Leather grip -- only .8mm thick, so it will drop roughly half a grip's worth of size and sharpen the bevel feel.
For an L2.5 you like a slightly cushier feel, roughly similar bevel shape and don't mind a few g's more handle weight, go L2 with a bit thicker base grip, like a Gamma Hi-Tech.

 

[nyta2]

Toroline is certainly getting a lot of hype. Wondering if it’s just ambassadors pumping it up. Or if it’s truly a gem.

i presumed it was because of karue sell & his toroline::k-pop string, that i've been hearing about it alot (as i watch his channel alot which also collabs with other yt channels)
ksell also recently switched to the p100d, so further makes sense toroline would show up in this thread

 

[delosalpes]

For an L2.5 with sharper bevel feel and maybe a tiny bit less weight, go L3 with a Kimony Techni Leather grip -- only .8mm thick, so it will drop roughly half a grip's worth of size and sharpen the bevel feel.
For an L2.5 you like a slightly cushier feel, roughly similar bevel shape and don't mind a few g's more handle weight, go L2 with a bit thicker base grip, like a Gamma Hi-Tech.

Thank you for the suggestions! Those Kimony’s are hard to find. The US website seems to be out of stock, same with European sites. If you’ve got a link…. I generally do prefer leather for the feel and preferred balance, but it’s not always the right fit from a weight/balance perspective (97H for example). I appreciate that the Kimony are lighter but I can’t get my hands on them. I’ve tried the Tourna pro thin on my L3s but don’t like it. I do like the hydrosorb pro. It’s cusioned but once you grip it I feel like it thins out. I’ll give the gamma a try on my L2s.

 

[djNEiGht]

Thank you for the suggestions! Those Kimony’s are hard to find. The US website seems to be out of stock, same with European sites. If you’ve got a link…. I generally do prefer leather for the feel and preferred balance, but it’s not always the right fit from a weight/balance perspective (97H for example). I appreciate that the Kimony are lighter but I can’t get my hands on them. I’ve tried the Tourna pro thin on my L3s but don’t like it. I do like the hydrosorb pro. It’s cusioned but once you grip it I feel like it thins out. I’ll give the gamma a try on my L2s.

where are you located?

 

[delosalpes]

where are you located?

Switzerland

 

[TNNSDR]

Reading through almost all comments, it seems that the 100D is a clear winner in the new Percept line!! Another racquet to try, I guess.

 

[MiddlingPlayer]

Reading through almost all comments, it seems that the 100D is a clear winner in the new Percept line!! Another racquet to try, I guess.

I would add 97D to the list as well

 

[tele]

I would add 97D to the list as well

the 97h has been getting pretty rave reviews here if you can handle 330g

 

[Trip]

@delosalpes - Very welcome, yeah I realized just after I posted the Kimony is out of stock right now. They have an "Expert" Techni Leather coming out soon to replace the original, which apparently will be identical, save for a better dying/tanning process on the leather. Kinda spending though at $20 a pop apparently.

 

[TNNSDR]

the 97h has been getting pretty rave reviews here if you can handle 330g

Thx! I am more comfortable with 18m, but Yonex is super generous when it comes to racquet-demos here in Japan. So, I'll definitely give the 97H a try too. It's very tough to get any other brands to demo in JP! I recently purchased the Gravity Pro 2023 and Gravity Tour 2023; the GT being at the top of my list at the moment. That said, I must try these new Yonex Percept beasts, according to these great reviews / assessments.

 

[Flair328]

Thx! I am more comfortable with 18m, but Yonex is super generous when it comes to racquet-demos here in Japan. So, I'll definitely give the 97H a try too. It's very tough to get any other brands to demo in JP! I recently purchased the Gravity Pro 2023 and Gravity Tour 2023; the GT being at the top of my list at the moment. That said, I must try these new Yonex Percept beasts, according to these great reviews / assessments.

I buy the rackets I want to demo as the stores' time limit are too short, on average of 2 weeks, which isn't long enough to get to know a frame / string & tension combo I want to use.
Some see that losing $$$ selling the unwanted frames afterwards is not worth while but personally its a better process for me.

 

[tennisjaz]

Demoed the 100D earlier in the month from TW and fell in love with it. The demo I tried had lead on 10 + 2 (weird that a demo came with lead on it, might have been from person prior to me). Not sure if it had lead in handle or not. The demo have a very soft muted feel which I loved and felt that I could swing out on most balls and not miss. Felt like it was in the goldilocks zone in plow/weight/muteness

Based on the feel of the demo I went ahead and purchased 100D. Strung it up with some PolyTourRev @ 51 that I had laying around (laying around as I usually play with PTP instead but figured I would give Rev a try). Also put lead at 10 + 2 (2 x 2 inches each, so 2 grams of weight). Based on this setup I felt the racquet played 'jarring' often. Not sure if it was the firmer strings or misplacement or lack of counterbalance on the lead). Coming from a vcore98.

Anyone with a 100D have suggestions for me to get the more plow coming through the racquet but keeping the soft muted feeling? Where did you place the lead and how much, etc...
also if your the one that demo'ed the 100D and customized it and then shipped it back still customized, what did you do exactly so I can mimic?

 

[Mischko]

Not so sure you need extra lead on it. It's slowing down your swings and the result is you don't have enough racquet head speed on impact to punch through a fresh tight stringbed. On an individual basis some racquets can be under spec, yes, but it's not very likely with Yonex. 100D plays really nicely already at 320 kg/cm2 strung swingweight, and I wouldn't go above 326, for the reason already described.

With 1+1g of lead at 10&2 that added some 5 kg/cm2, but also some twistweight because lead is on the sides. Too much twistweight makes racquets clunky and unwieldy. If you add weight in the handle you'll probably slow down your swings even more.

You just need Rev at a lower tension, nothing more, if it feels jarring as you describe. It's a string that likes harder hitting and attacking the ball, fits really well with 100D, and is very controlled even at lower tensions. Perhaps it'll lose enough tension over time to play fine for you. Now when fresh, if it feels too tight just do your best to swing wider and faster and hit cleaner and harder. With 100D balls will still easily land in the court anyway

 

[TennisManiac]

the 97h has been getting pretty rave reviews here if you can handle 330g

The 97H is the best in the line imo. Problem is.... not many people are man enough to play with such a racket.

 

[ouch_my_shoulder]

No idea why, but both of my Percepts felt a little bit rough the first couple of times I hit them. Like I was able to feel more vibrations on off-center hits than I did with the demo. After a few sessions they settled in and felt more muted. I would normally assume this is just the strings settling in, but I didn’t experience the harsher feel on subsequent restrings. Maybe it’s the grommets settling into place or something.

 

[tele]

It's very tough to get any other brands to demo in JP!

I know what you mean. I wanted to try the new prince japan tour 95 and the only demo option I could find was to pay to rent the entire series at once.

 

[MiddlingPlayer]

I got the second racket(97D) and matched both the rackets. Both rackets are under spec.

Sharing the numbers in case anyone’s interested.


First Racket

Unstrung weight- 315G
After 3G Lead at 12, Volkl over grip, dampener
Static Weight: 348G
Swing Weight: 341G
Balance Point: 12.75(6PTS HL)

Second Racket
Unstrung weight 316G
Balance 12.59

After 4G Lead at 12, Volkl over grip, dampener

Static weight 348G
Swing weight - 340G
Balance 12.7(6 Pts HL)

 

[TwinCinema]

Unstrung weight 316G
Strung Weight: 325G

What in the world? What strings only add 9g of weight? Strings should be 15g minimum, sometimes 18-19g.

 

[MiddlingPlayer]

What in the world? What strings only add 9g of weight? Strings should be 15g minimum, sometimes 18-19g.

Might have been a mistake when I was typing it in notes, will check again but rest of it is accurate

 

[ka1m1ng]

finally got my hands on the 100d. i purchased a grip L2 percept as the store advised to size down coming from a blade v7 L3, but felt i should have stuck to L3..
my first outing with an og and O dampener - still adjusting to the first serve, 2h backhand is so easy with accuracy. 50% forehands went to the net.
racket is solid and good on returns, mostly a baseliner. next tryout will be adding another wilson pro og to size up and 2g at 12. hopefully better results with the fh.

 

[tennisjaz]

Not so sure you need extra lead on it. It's slowing down your swings and the result is you don't have enough racquet head speed on impact to punch through a fresh tight stringbed. On an individual basis some racquets can be under spec, yes, but it's not very likely with Yonex. 100D plays really nicely already at 320 kg/cm2 strung swingweight, and I wouldn't go above 326, for the reason already described.

With 1+1g of lead at 10&2 that added some 5 kg/cm2, but also some twistweight because lead is on the sides. Too much twistweight makes racquets clunky and unwieldy. If you add weight in the handle you'll probably slow down your swings even more.

You just need Rev at a lower tension, nothing more, if it feels jarring as you describe. It's a string that likes harder hitting and attacking the ball, fits really well with 100D, and is very controlled even at lower tensions. Perhaps it'll lose enough tension over time to play fine for you. Now when fresh, if it feels too tight just do your best to swing wider and faster and hit cleaner and harder. With 100D balls will still easily land in the court anyway

Thanks for the feedback. Might be the tension. Seems that someone else also mentioned that their 100D felt a little rough hitting the first few times and needed to settle. Will play with it some more before attempting to change things up which would be the strings first back to PTP. As for weight and racquet head speed, I have my vcore weighted up more than the 100D and have no issues as I swing fast and through the ball. Prob just need to get some more time with it and let it settle some, than I am sure I will be quite happy.
Much appreciated

 

[Pooschnikens]

Demoed the 100D earlier in the month from TW and fell in love with it. The demo I tried had lead on 10 + 2 (weird that a demo came with lead on it, might have been from person prior to me). Not sure if it had lead in handle or not. The demo have a very soft muted feel which I loved and felt that I could swing out on most balls and not miss. Felt like it was in the goldilocks zone in plow/weight/muteness

Based on the feel of the demo I went ahead and purchased 100D. Strung it up with some PolyTourRev @ 51 that I had laying around (laying around as I usually play with PTP instead but figured I would give Rev a try). Also put lead at 10 + 2 (2 x 2 inches each, so 2 grams of weight). Based on this setup I felt the racquet played 'jarring' often. Not sure if it was the firmer strings or misplacement or lack of counterbalance on the lead). Coming from a vcore98.

Anyone with a 100D have suggestions for me to get the more plow coming through the racquet but keeping the soft muted feeling? Where did you place the lead and how much, etc...
also if your the one that demo'ed the 100D and customized it and then shipped it back still customized, what did you do exactly so I can mimic?

A general rule of thumb when trying to match a new frame to one you’ve tried, it’s imperative to measure and list all pertinent details. At minimum, you would want to measure the hitting racket’s static and swing weight, its balance as tested. Additionally you’d want to list the current string, date of stringing, its original strung tension as well as current stringbed stiffness. Lastly, if modified, double check to ensure all mods are listed such as additional lead/tungsten tape, where weight was applied onto the racket, any grip changes, overgrip, dampener, etc. The more data you obtain regarding the hitting racket, the better your chances of replicating a new one. In my experience, even with all/most of these values are applied to a new frame, it’s not always a slam dunk. Obviously a new racket with a fresh stringjob will initially feel firmer and less forgiving so do allow for some break in period. It’s hard to say how much the hitting reference racket was hit with, how aggressively, how many stringjobs it’s had over its lifetime, etc. My suggestion: be thorough when gathering intel, measure and record the numbers of the new frame, both in bone stock and fully strung & modded. That’ll help if minor adjustments are required.

 

[Airmate]

good point on the 16 vs 18 mains!
we have discussed it a few weeks back.
it's WEIRD the percept offerings.

If I had to set it up, I'd go:
97 16x19 320 gram, 7pt HL
97D 18x19 320 gram, 7pt HL
97H 16x19 330 gram, 7pt HL
100D 18x19 310 gram, 7pt HL
100 16x19 310 gram, 4pt HL

we really don't need lighter frames in this segment, IMO.

97 at 310g is a good weight. Nowadays even lot of pros using rackets with unsrtung 310g. The problem is the swingweight for 97 is too low....if the sw is around 285-290 unstrung it will be much better, and still has room for customization. Right now 275~unstrung SW is unplayable in competitive tennis.

 

[delosalpes]

Mine came in at 285 and 286 SW unstrung. With some lead at 10&2 and a bit in the handle, their great. But I do prefer the 97H.

 

[Pooschnikens]

I may not be picking up my vcore95s again...

Finally got to hit with my 100D. It was 1 gram under spec. I don't have an accurate way to measure balance but it seemed more head heavy than the 6pt head light spec TW has posted. I strung it with Tour Hex @ 48/45. Holding it with a finger in the throat, the racket balanced pretty much parallel to the floor. I added 3 grams under the stock grip near the butt cap and threw on an overgrip. Helped the balance slightly. Overall static weight at 331g strung with these mods.

Compared to the VC95... I was surprised at how easy it was to hit with! Maybe I shouldn't have going from a 95 to a 100 but in my head I was expecting every ball to sail. The racket seemed to adjust well for both flat and topspin shots. OHBH wasn't sluggish either with the bigger frame... slightly slower rhs, but by no means sluggish. I wasn't playing with heavy hitters (just a friendly doubles match) so I am curious how it fares against some pace. Without weight in the hoop, the racket was still stable on service returns. Solid feeling overall. I can't comment on touch shots as I need to get dialed in. No problem with backhand slices.

The not as great... a few off-center shots did feel jarring. Not so much "hurt your arm" jarring but I did feel the vibration through my arm. I never experienced this with the VC95s. Also, some balls would sail a little with poor timing. I think I may be able to dial this in a bit by strining without the crosses looser than the mains.

I had (and sold) the 97D before and that was a great stick! Just a bit too heavy for me. It is definitely more "pinpoint accurate" compared to the 100D. Felt like a weighted up VC95 with a slightly better sweet spot.

All in all, I can see this being a good choice for a big percentages of players in the 3.5 to 4.5 range.

If you do a search for ‘DIY tennis racket balance board’, there are a few that are quite easy to make with very little cost. I just recently put together one for home use and works just fine. Also, invest in a small digital scale. Make sure you can switch from ounces to grams and that it reads to 1/100th decimal place for accuracy. Having these tools at your disposal are essential if you plan to modify your racket, more so if you wish to match multiples. I purposely didn’t include a swing weight device as even something like a BRIFIDI unit is I would say a luxury item given the cost. Swing weight is a key value to know but by at least being able to measure a racket’s weight and balance, that’ll still put you well ahead of the game.

 

[Ryebread]

Demoed the 100D earlier in the month from TW and fell in love with it. The demo I tried had lead on 10 + 2 (weird that a demo came with lead on it, might have been from person prior to me). Not sure if it had lead in handle or not. The demo have a very soft muted feel which I loved and felt that I could swing out on most balls and not miss. Felt like it was in the goldilocks zone in plow/weight/muteness

Based on the feel of the demo I went ahead and purchased 100D. Strung it up with some PolyTourRev @ 51 that I had laying around (laying around as I usually play with PTP instead but figured I would give Rev a try). Also put lead at 10 + 2 (2 x 2 inches each, so 2 grams of weight). Based on this setup I felt the racquet played 'jarring' often. Not sure if it was the firmer strings or misplacement or lack of counterbalance on the lead). Coming from a vcore98.

Anyone with a 100D have suggestions for me to get the more plow coming through the racquet but keeping the soft muted feeling? Where did you place the lead and how much, etc...
also if your the one that demo'ed the 100D and customized it and then shipped it back still customized, what did you do exactly so I can mimic?

If you don’t mind adding a little weight - just add a leather grip. I am not getting pushed around with my 100D (mine is only 301 grams sadly) plus leather grip and over grip. full story in a prev post. 3.5 4.0 even some 4.5 hitting

also consider stringing at 51/48 instead of full bed of 51. better pocketing, control. and yonex actually promotes crosses 3-5 lbs lower than mains.

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I have to say, as someone mentioned above, my 100D was weird for the first two days off the stringer recently. Then it was great. I’ve using the same strings that I always used in my 97D and never had this problem before. So weird.

 

[ka1m1ng]

which leather grip are you using? i am currently on the stock yonex replacement grip + one wilson pro og. after 2 hours of hitting i find that grip size kinda small causing abit of wrist discomfort. can't really feel the bevels with 2 ogs.

If you don’t mind adding a little weight - just add a leather grip. I am not getting pushed around with my 100D (mine is only 301 grams sadly) plus leather grip and over grip. full story in a prev post. 3.5 4.0 even some 4.5 hitting

also consider stringing at 51/48 instead of full bed of 51. better pocketing, control. and yonex actually promotes crosses 3-5 lbs lower than mains.

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I have to say, as someone mentioned above, my 100D was weird for the first two days off the stringer recently. Then it was great. I’ve using the same strings that I always used in my 97D and never had this problem before. So weird.

 

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which leather grip are you using? i am currently on the stock yonex replacement grip + one wilson pro og. after 2 hours of hitting i find that grip size kinda small causing abit of wrist discomfort. can't really feel the bevels with 2 ogs.

Not a leather grip, but a Gamma High Tech will boost the Yonex grip size significantly while still giving decent bevel feel.

 

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which leather grip are you using? i am currently on the stock yonex replacement grip + one wilson pro og. after 2 hours of hitting i find that grip size kinda small causing abit of wrist discomfort. can't really feel the bevels with 2 ogs.

I don't normally do leather grips!
I did this time b/c my 100D was only 301 grams and I wanted a little more plow and weight.

I ended up getting the only leather grip at my local store, and normally I wouldn't give babolat ANY of my money, but I did here.

Babolat Natural Leather Grip Brown | Tennis Warehouse

www.tennis-warehouse.com

I pulled it super tight so that I could downsize the grip size by a tiny margin, and also have more to trim (less weight).
added my over grip as normal.
result is that the grip is SLIGHTLY SMALLER now, I feel the bevels a LOT more now too.
check my full report a few pages back on the weight differential.
hope this helps

 

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I don't normally do leather grips!
I did this time b/c my 100D was only 301 grams and I wanted a little more plow and weight.

I ended up getting the only leather grip at my local store, and normally I wouldn't give babolat ANY of my money, but I did here.

Babolat Natural Leather Grip Brown | Tennis Warehouse

www.tennis-warehouse.com

I pulled it super tight so that I could downsize the grip size by a tiny margin, and also have more to trim (less weight).
added my over grip as normal.
result is that the grip is SLIGHTLY SMALLER now, I feel the bevels a LOT more now too.
check my full report a few pages back on the weight differential.
hope this helps

Oehms offers a special touch edition on amazon that's listed as 1.20 mm thin. You'll need access to calipers though as I find their quality control on thickness is suspect. Ordered 4 and picked out two that were actually 1.21/22 thick and each weight 21 gms untrimmed. The two other were 1.34 and 1.40mm thick.