2024 Australian Open - Women's Discussion

Who will be WTA singles champion for the 2024 Australian Open?

  • Iga Swiatek

    Votes: 7 15.9%
  • Aryna Sabalenka

    Votes: 7 15.9%
  • Elena Rybakina

    Votes: 16 36.4%
  • Coco Gauff

    Votes: 5 11.4%
  • Jessica Pegula

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Ons Jabeur

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Marketa Vondrousova

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Maria Sakkari

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Barbora Krejcikova

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 11.4%

  • Total voters
    44
  • Poll closed .

SteffiGoat

Professional
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Mark-Touch

Legend
Saby- too emotional
Reba- may not have enough stamina
Coco- no

My pick is Eeeeeggggggaaaaa.
Dark horse is NO.
Iga is certainly looking good.
But when I watched Ryba's highlights from her last four matches at Brisbane I was absolutely floored!
Her shot-making was simply outrageous!
Her serve was also on fire.
If she keeps her form in the A.O. she'll be hard to beat.
 

HarveyPitnik

Professional
So irritating that they changed the schedule of the qualies after there was no playing yesterday because of the rain. I was looking forward to see Alina Korneeva (girls champion in both Australian and French open last year) in action but her match has now changed to 3rd and here in Northern Europe it's already 1.47 A.M. so I'm going to sleep in ten minutes or so. Have watched for some time Katie Volynets against Dutch Suzan Lamens (ranking over 200) and it seems Katie has not progressed in a year at all and she is definitely lacking that strong spirit she had last year. :( (Leading 5-4 on serve, she was already 4-2, so maybe she blows this lead too - did it and now 5-6) They are playing on 1573 Arena and the number of spectators are only about 1570 below that number :laughing: )

Edit. Korneeva's match actually only the fourth on court 15.
 
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Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
^ Often the player that has been the most convincing before a slam then disappoints... but maybe not this time. So I'm hopping into Elena-bandwagon too! (y):cool:
Last year was actually a bit more consistent (besides Vondrousova at Wimbledon out of nowhere).

Sabalenka won Adelaide as the lead in to the AO and won the title.
Swiatek was the Stuttgart champ and Madrid runner up before winning the French
Vondrousova, Wimbledon boilover.
And then Gauff won Washington and Cinci before winning the USO
 

tennis24x7

Professional
Iga is certainly looking good.
But when I watched Ryba's highlights from her last four matches at Brisbane I was absolutely floored!
Her shot-making was simply outrageous!
Her serve was also on fire.
If she keeps her form in the A.O. she'll be hard to beat.
I hope she has not peaked too early, I want her to win the AO and not be a flash in the pan like Ostapenko, Kenin, Krecjikova and on and on sigh..
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
I hope she has not peaked too early, I want her to win the AO and not be a flash in the pan like Ostapenko, Kenin, Krecjikova and on and on sigh..
Yup I know what you mean. I've watched her play over the past couple of years and she can be hot and cold sometimes.
She seems to have slimmed down a bit (if that was even possible) and her movement was phenomenal (last tournie) for a woman her height.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Two big losses in the 1R of qualifying.

Hsieh the first, no main draw upsets for her this year. Always like seeing her play so it's sad she won't be there. Player who in Melbourne has knocked out Muguruza, Andreescu, Vondrousova, Radwanska and pushed champs like Kerber and Osaka big time

Kanepi is the other. She was the last player to beat Sabalenka in Melbourne having beaten her in 2022 en route to the QF's. Year before that in 2021 she took out the reigning champ Kenin. Big loss not having Kaia in the main draw.
 
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robyrolfo

Hall of Fame
I picked “other,” with that other obvious being our Queen and savior, the supreme being known by us mere mortals as Camila Giorgi.

Two big losses in the 1R of qualifying.

Hsieh the first, no main draw upsets for her this year. Always like seeing her play so it's sad she won't be there. Player who in Melbourne has knocked out Muguruza, Andreescu, Vondrousova, Radwanska and pushed champs like Kerber and Osaka big time

Kanepi is the other. She was the last player to beat Sabalenka in Melbourne having beaten her in 2022 en route to the QF's. Year before that in 2021 she took out the reigning champ Kenin. Big loss not having Kaia in the main draw.
That is a shame about both. It’s fun when they are in the main draw, and Hsieh is always a good watch.
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
I picked “other,” with that other obvious being our Queen and savior, the supreme being known by us mere mortals as Camila Giorgi.


That is a shame about both. It’s fun when they are in the main draw, and Hsieh is always a good watch.
That's quite a coinkydence that you picked/mentioned gorgeous Giorgi.
Today, of all the possible players on tour both ATP/WTA, I decided to go back to my Giorgi FH video and study
it carefully again.
My topspin FH underwent a major change that began a month ago and I started to study a bunch of the pros to
try to learn from them.
Giorgi's is the one that came to mind today! :)

Yes I'll also miss Hsieh in singles but at least we'll still be able to catch her magic play in doubles.
Enjoy these precious opportunities while they still last!
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
I picked “other,” with that other obvious being our Queen and savior, the supreme being known by us mere mortals as Camila Giorgi.


That is a shame about both. It’s fun when they are in the main draw, and Hsieh is always a good watch.
Speaking about Hsieh ...

If you really want to treat yourself to 16 minutes of pure joy, watch this magician fest between
Hsieh and Radwanska played in the 3rd round of the 2018 A.O.
We just don't see this kind of tennis today.
 

Kralingen

Bionic Poster
The women’s draw seems pretty rough for Iga. Swiatek draws Collins or Kerber in the 2nd round, Ostapenko possibly lurking in the quarters, and Rybakina as the SFist on her half. That’s about as tough as it gets.
 

robyrolfo

Hall of Fame
That's quite a coinkydence that you picked/mentioned gorgeous Giorgi.
Today, of all the possible players on tour both ATP/WTA, I decided to go back to my Giorgi FH video and study
it carefully again.
My topspin FH underwent a major change that began a month ago and I started to study a bunch of the pros to
try to learn from them.

Yes I'll also miss Hsieh in singles but at least we'll still be able to catch her magic play in doubles.
Enjoy these precious opportunities while they still last!
Were you really watching that Giorgi video to learn from her technique? Because I see a lot of the Youtube videos of her practicing have very high view counts, and I don't know how many of those people are actually admiring her tennis.

And I agree that Hsieh will be missed. The Adrian Mannarino of the WTA. I would love to see her play mixed doubles with him sometime.
The women’s draw seems pretty rough for Iga. Swiatek draws Collins or Kerber in the 2nd round, Ostapenko possibly lurking in the quarters, and Rybakina as the SFist on her half. That’s about as tough as it gets.
Collins and Kerber didn't look very good in the warmup events. They aren't the Collins and Kerber of old. But she should indeed be worried about Penko!
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
Were you really watching that Giorgi video to learn from her technique? Because I see a lot of the Youtube videos of her practicing have very high view counts, and I don't know how many of those people are actually admiring her tennis.

And I agree that Hsieh will be missed. The Adrian Mannarino of the WTA. I would love to see her play mixed doubles with him sometime.

Collins and Kerber didn't look very good in the warmup events. They aren't the Collins and Kerber of old. But she should indeed be worried about Penko!
Yes I actually am watching her video to learn from her technique. Watched some more today. Downloaded the video on Sep. 18, 2023.
I also downloaded Fed, Djoker, Collins, Swiatek, Konta, Agassi, Svitolina, Keys, Osaka to study their FH's.
Players whose technique I admire.
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
I hope Coco wins so some of you will privately throw a fit and then publicly throw a fit.
Coco is no slouch!
I have been very impressed with her progress over the past year.
She has bulked up nicely, giving her much more power everywhere.
She's no longer a loopty-doo player. She can crush the ball now at will.
Her serve has also come a long way and is now definitely a weapon.

That said, I still maintain Sab gifted her the U.S. Open a few months ago.
I am warming up to Coco's game but she's still a bit too 'cold as ice' for me in the personality department.
 

jimmy8

Legend
Coco is no slouch!
I have been very impressed with her progress over the past year.
She has bulked up nicely, giving her much more power everywhere.
She's no longer a loopty-doo player. She can crush the ball now at will.
Her serve has also come a long way and is now definitely a weapon.

That said, I still maintain Sab gifted her the U.S. Open a few months ago.
I am warming up to Coco's game but she's still a bit too 'cold as ice' for me in the personality department.
It looked like a gift because Coco was tracking down balls with blinding speed. This made Sab go for shots harder than she's normally comfortable and go for the lines instead of a little bit inside the line. Sab knew she had to because she couldn't get it by Coco otherwise. That's not Sab gifting the match, that's Coco making her mess up because her speed got in Sab's head and forced her to go for uncomfortable shots. I try to do the same thing to my opponents, I frustrate the hell out of them. It was easier when I was younger.
 

jimmy8

Legend
Coco is no slouch!
I have been very impressed with her progress over the past year.
She has bulked up nicely, giving her much more power everywhere.
She's no longer a loopty-doo player. She can crush the ball now at will.
Her serve has also come a long way and is now definitely a weapon.

That said, I still maintain Sab gifted her the U.S. Open a few months ago.
I am warming up to Coco's game but she's still a bit too 'cold as ice' for me in the personality department.
You would press and be uncomfortable after this point too:
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Insane for Swiatek.

1st round against the 2020 champ Kenin.
Then 2R either the 2022 runner up Collins or the 2016 champ Kerber.
That's before she even starts facing seeds, the first being #31 Bouzkova in the 3R
In the 4R, looming is former #3 Svitolina who beat her at Wimbledon in the QF's!
Then in the QF's it could be anyone from: 2017 RG champ Ostapenko who beat her at the US Open to 2012/2013 champ Azarenka to Wimbledon champ Vondrousova.
Then the SF opponent could be the woman who beat her here last year Rybakina or JPeg who beat her twice last year or Zheng or Kasatkina
And then the finale. Sabalenka or Coco or literally anyone!
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
By comparison, great draw for Sabalenka til the SF's.

None of the seeds should be threats, Tsurenko is just meh, Vekic hasn't been a threat for a while and Samsonova is in a slump. A couple dangerous floaters on paper like Pavlyuchenkova, Badosa and Townsend but Aryna should be fine.

QF against Jabeur or Krejcikova looms but won't be shocked if they bomb out.
 

jimmy8

Legend
By comparison, great draw for Sabalenka til the SF's.

None of the seeds should be threats, Tsurenko is just meh, Vekic hasn't been a threat for a while and Samsonova is in a slump. A couple dangerous floaters on paper like Pavlyuchenkova, Badosa and Townsend but Aryna should be fine.

QF against Jabeur or Krejcikova looms but won't be shocked if they bomb out.
Agree.
Insane for Swiatek.

1st round against the 2020 champ Kenin.
Then 2R either the 2022 runner up Collins or the 2016 champ Kerber.
That's before she even starts facing seeds, the first being #31 Bouzkova in the 3R
In the 4R, looming is former #3 Svitolina who beat her at Wimbledon in the QF's!
Then in the QF's it could be anyone from: 2017 RG champ Ostapenko who beat her at the US Open to 2012/2013 champ Azarenka to Wimbledon champ Vondrousova.
Then the SF opponent could be the woman who beat her here last year Rybakina or JPeg who beat her twice last year or Zheng or Kasatkina
And then the finale. Sabalenka or Coco or literally anyone!
That's why it's a grand slam.
 

Kralingen

Bionic Poster
By comparison, great draw for Sabalenka til the SF's.

None of the seeds should be threats, Tsurenko is just meh, Vekic hasn't been a threat for a while and Samsonova is in a slump. A couple dangerous floaters on paper like Pavlyuchenkova, Badosa and Townsend but Aryna should be fine.

QF against Jabeur or Krejcikova looms but won't be shocked if they bomb out.
They are hoping for a repeat. I swear her and Gauff have the easiest paths to a SF possible, it's insane.

So much talent missing this year. It's sad. The field is really weak outside the top 4.
 

jimmy8

Legend
It was her head and UE's.
Please read this post if you haven't already.
Who made her head get that way? Who made her go for the lines? Did you watch the match? Did you see how many balls Coco got to that were seemingly impossible to get to? It was many, many points. You act like Coco didn't make any good shots. Sab didn't dump 100 straight shots into the net. Re-watch the match, it's available free on YouTube.
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
Who made her head get that way? Who made her go for the lines? Did you watch the match? Did you see how many balls Coco got to that were seemingly impossible to get to? It was many, many points. You act like Coco didn't make any good shots. Sab didn't dump 100 straight shots into the net. Re-watch the match, it's available free on YouTube.
Of course I watched the match.
My analysis sums it all up.
The match was entirely on Sab's racket.
 

jimmy8

Legend
It was her head and UE's.
Please read this post if you haven't already.
You act like Sab gets in her own head only and she constantly chokes and is not capable of winning. That is simply not true, I don't have to bring up Sab's record to show you, you already know what she's won.

You know what it's like to play someone who is just better and how that gets into your head and makes you think there's no way you can win unless you go for shots that you know are low percentage for you. If you're on that day, you can pull out a win. I've done it a couple of times.

You know what it's like to play someone who is so fast and can track down any drop shot, any lob, even extreme angle shots. Same as above, it gets in your head, it forces you to go for more, and you probably won't win unless you have an incredible day of making everything. Don't act like you haven't had these type of matches. If you haven't, you aren't a competitive person who wants to win really bad and tries everything to win and never gives up. I'm very competitive and I assume you are too.
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
You analysis is based on your prior prediction. You need to confirm your prior prediction so badly, you formed your analysis based on not wanting to say that your prior prediction was wrong. Understandable.
No it wasn't based on my prior prediction.
It simply held up my prior prediction.
Check the names of the members who agreed with my analysis.
These are knowledgeable veterans here.

I don't see what's bugging you?
You are obviously a Coco fan. She won the U.S. open. So what's not to like about that?

Next time let's see her win based on her winners and not her opponent's U.E.'s.
 

Devil_dog

Hall of Fame
Some of the notables for me:

Emma Rads has potential 2nd round with Cirstea.

Iga v. Kenin

Danimal v. Kerber

Giorgi v. Vika Azarenka

Naomi v. Carolina Garcia
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
They are hoping for a repeat. I swear her and Gauff have the easiest paths to a SF possible, it's insane.

So much talent missing this year. It's sad. The field is really weak outside the top 4.
Honestly this draw is brutal for the tournament for blockbuster matches. The first round or two are going to be insanely juicy and then R3 onwards not so good.

I mean in terms of early round great matchups:
Swiatek v Kenin
Collins v Kerber
Winner of match 1 vs winner of match 2 in the 2R
Azarenka v Giorgi
Rybakina v Pliskova
Garcia v Osaka
Winner of that to play Aussie Saville
Samsonova v Anisimova
Townsend v Badosa
Pavlyuchenkova v Vekic


But then I look at possible 3R and 4R matches in the bottom half and it's probably gonna be Podoroska v Townsend or Siegemund v Korpatsch.
 

jimmy8

Legend
No it wasn't based on my prior prediction.
It simply held up my prior prediction.
Check the names of the members who agreed with my analysis.
These are knowledgeable veterans here.

I don't see what's bugging you?
You are obviously a Coco fan. She won the U.S. open. So what's not to like about that?

Next time let's see her win based on her winners and not her opponent's U.E.'s.
Just because some people who looked through the same lens as you (Coco didn't earn it, Sab gifted it lens) agreed with you doesn't mean you're right. I'm not a Coco fan, I'm an Iga fan. I just started supporting Coco on the forums because I saw some people denigrating her to an extreme level, and I voiced my opinion that she's young and has potential for growth. So far, Coco has proved those people wrong, so far.

You have some good points, but so do I. If Sab had more nerves than Coco in a grand slam final, then Coco controlled her nerves better. That's not gifting a match, that's winning by having better nerves, nerves of a champion. Coco could have dumped some of those easy volleys into the net, but she didn't. When Sab dumped some easy volleys into the net, that's not her gifting the match, because Sab wanted to win the match, she wanted to make that volley, but she made a mistake, we all do that sometimes, maybe some of them were due to nerves, but a champion controls their nerves, they get better with experience, if Sab made UEs, that's her fault, she should have gotten in better shape so she could practice more, maybe like the shape Coco is in, or Iga is in, then maybe she would have made more of those shots, it's not gifting, it's about being better in the moment. Sab is a professional player, #2 in the world, she's a Ostapenko, Garcia type player where she pounds the ball with 100% effort almost every time. Sab just makes it more often than Ostapenko and other lower ranked players. If Sab made a lot of UEs because she's that type of player, then that's her fault, it doesn't mean she gifted the match, she didn't purposely hit the ball out, she was off that day. And Coco gets credit for forcing some of those shots. Why can't you admit that a blindingly fast player forces errors and frustrates their opponents?
 
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ALCARAZWON

Guest
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Sofia Kenin is the only likable player on WTA.
Will she defeat the hunchback in R1?
Kenin-Swiatek have only met once before, and it was 2020 RG.
 

zvelf

Hall of Fame
They are hoping for a repeat. I swear her and Gauff have the easiest paths to a SF possible, it's insane.

So much talent missing this year. It's sad. The field is really weak outside the top 4.
Nah, Ostapenko is playing well while Pegula, Zheng Qinwen, and Svitolina are all substantial threats. It's just that every in-form player other than Gauff and Sabalenka are in the top half, which is a crazy difficult half.
 

zvelf

Hall of Fame
Emma Rads has potential 2nd round with Cirstea.
Raducanu will have to get past Rogers first and I figure that is almost 50/50.
Sofia Kenin is the only likable player on WTA.
Will she defeat the hunchback in R1?
Kenin-Swiatek have only met once before, and it was 2020 RG.
Kenin just got whipped by Saville. She has no chance against Iga unless Kenin suddenly plays the match of her life. Even then, she'd probably lose.
 
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ALCARAZWON

Guest
Raducanu will have to get past Rogers first and I figure that is almost 50/50.

Kenin just got whipped by Saville. She has no chance against Iga unless Kenin suddenly plays the match of her life. Even then, she'd probably lose.
There's no incentive to beat Saville, so that's no surprise.
Kenin beat Gauff at Wimbledon 2023.
And she doesn't need to play the "match of her life" to beat Swiatek, as many have beaten Swiatek with far less...
Swiatek hasn't even won an Australian Open.
 
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