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That was some comeback by Hsieh/Zielinki. Zielinki was pretty mediocre in the match tiebreaker, but Hsieh performed.
They were attacking Hsieh's serve and it did work, but in the end Hsieh/team survived
That was some comeback by Hsieh/Zielinki. Zielinki was pretty mediocre in the match tiebreaker, but Hsieh performed.
I would have guessed the latter view (though you might have also expressed that already earlier) . I have understood he is the most popular doubles player among the ladies (outside this forum as well, I mean)Oh for sure, these two make a very hot pairing. Krawczyk is very attractive (@HarveyPitnik) and Skupski is my type of man!
Sure. Except that the wrong team won.Judy Dalton of the Original 9 to hand out the trophies. So lovely to have her in the house today!
Wish more people were here having watched this match cause it was super fun!
And congrats to Jamrichova on her juniors win. She looks very impressive and is a likely future star on the WTA tour.You may want to watch on Laver, playing right now (8 pm EST):
Australian Open: Rod Laver (Juniors Finals)
[1] R. Jamrichova vs. [6] E. Jones – Junior Girls Singles Final
The Slovakian Jamrichova already, at 16, plays a great leftie's game.
Yes Sab definitely looks fitter and is probably at peak form (technique-wise).
But she still has work to do strategy-wise.
I didn't see her last match but did watch the highlights.
Although she did manage to win I was a bit disappointed with how she won.
The highlights showed her resorting to Gauff's return to loop-d-loop tennis.
Sure she did flatten out some power strokes when required but, she was lulled into
longer than necessary rallies that are right up Coco's alley.
Sab should be bossing Coco every single rally from the first ball struck,
the same way she did against her opponents in her previous matches this tournie.
And now for the key numbers:
2023 U.S. Open Sep. 9 6-2, 3-6, 2-6
Winners: Gauff: 13 Sab: 25
U.E.'s: Gauff: 19 Sab: 46
2024 A.O. Jan. 25 7-6, 6-4
Winners: Gauff: 22 Sab: 33
U.E.'s: Gauff: 20 Sab: 28
Sab continued to dominate in winners, but it was her ability
to cut down on her ridiculous number of U.E.'s (from U.S. Open)
that allowed her to take the match.
So overall I'm glad Sab won (she's on the right track against Coco)
but she still has some work to do before she can play her with total
confidence.
Ah, yes--Sabalenka was in the zone and surgically dismantled anything Zheng would call a strategy to defend her title at the Australian Open! Wonderful result!
As always, the updated list of majors winners since 2010:
That list has been around for a few years, and posted for information, and to disprove a certain member (I will leave nameless for the moment) who swore Williams "wins everything" and while she was playing, he habitually posted "they should just give her the trophy" at the beginning of a major. The list obviously illustrates the depth of the women's game, and in the timeline, continues long after Williams was no longer a factor / retired.Thanks for the updated list.
Is there any reason you omitted so many slams?
The following years you only mentioned this number of slams:
2010 2
2012 2
2013 2
2014 3
2015 1
2016 3
2017 3
2019 3
Before.Women’s dubs play after the Men’s singles finals, or before?
Sabalenka, the day after:
SerenaSu-Wei needs the US Open while Mertens needs the French Open to complete career grand slam. Only 4 active players Krejcikova, Siniakova, Venus (2) and Errani currently held a career grand slam.
So this year Junior singles has been won by slovakian girl who will likely be top 20 player in WTA, she has all the weapons. but that junior boy, not so sure. Japan hasn't produced much of anything in men's tennis except Nishikori. but then this kid isn't really japanese junior product but a product of IMG academy so he may have some hope of making it in the tour.
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ITF Ranking | Player name | Year of Birth | Nation | Tournaments played | Points | Head to Head |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 +2 | Renatajamrichova | 2007 | Slovakia | 17 | 3240.75 | Head 2 Head |
2 - | Clerviengounoue | 2006 | USA | 10 | 2700 | Head 2 Head |
3 +5 | Emersonjones | 2008 | Australia | 28 | 2482.5 | Head 2 Head |
4 - | Laurasamson | 2008 | Czechia | 32 | 2425.5 | Head 2 Head |
5 -4 | Alinakorneeva | 2007 | 5 | 2371.25 | Head 2 Head |
Is she active?Serena
shes #1 in wta??Jamrichova becomes the #1 junior in the world and the sky is the limit, as she has vast areas of potential improvement, e.g. at the net.
Last Updated: 29 January 2024
ITF Ranking Player name Year of Birth Nation Tournaments played Points Head to Head 1
+2Renatajamrichova 2007
Slovakia17 3240.75 Head 2 Head 2
-Clerviengounoue 2006
USA10 2700 Head 2 Head 3
+5Emersonjones 2008
Australia28 2482.5 Head 2 Head 4
-Laurasamson 2008
Czechia32 2425.5 Head 2 Head 5
-4Alinakorneeva 2007 5 2371.25 Head 2 Head
My bad.Is she active?
I don't think she officially retired.My bad.
She was the best women's doubles player in history. That stat isn't at all surprising. Just amazing.They showed the names on the trophy. Navratilova and Shriver won it 7 years in a row from 1982-1989. Mind-boggling!
Edit: I just looked it up and Navratilova only played women's doubles at the Australian Open 10 times. She won it 8 times (7 with Shriver, 1 with Nagelsen) and was runner-up once. Does anyone else win a slam 80% of the time they enter it?
Nope, she's #1 in ITF junior girls. She hasn't played much in the WTA yet, I guess she will start doing that soon. ITF juniors are amateurs, WTA players are professionals. The transition is offered by the ITF women, which are lower ranked professionals.shes #1 in wta??
No, Coco didn't go "toe to toe" with Sabalenka. Not in this semi, and not in the USO final. She tried to, and often did, play very good defense against Sabalenka's offense. Sometimes that was good enough to eventually make Sabalenka get tight and miss, and sometimes it was not. In this last semi she simply didn't miss as many as she did in the USO final (even though she did miss a few easy balls).Unforced errors don’t happen in a vacuum. Coco was going toe for toe with Sabalenka. Coco fully deserved that UO win because she was the better player that night. Even the other night when Sabalenka had fewer errors it was still a very tight two sets.
Coco is good enough now that Sabalenka cannot just “boss” and roll her with sheer power. Sabalenka is the better player but the gap is not very wide.
Martina was insanely good. I'm not sure how many people realize just how good she was. There are some remastered videos of her matches against Graf, and they let you see just how amazing both players were. As I've said before, both of them would easily be at the top of the game if they were playing today.They showed the names on the trophy. Navratilova and Shriver won it 7 years in a row from 1982-1989. Mind-boggling!
Edit: I just looked it up and Navratilova only played women's doubles at the Australian Open 10 times. She won it 8 times (7 with Shriver, 1 with Nagelsen) and was runner-up once. Does anyone else win a slam 80% of the time they enter it?
We just disagree. I am not saying Coco is at Sabalenka’s level. I am saying she can match up with her well, will continue to improve, and that the USO errors that Sabalenka committed didn’t happen in a vacuum. She saw her opponent was not fazed by her power and went for more. There were periods in that match that worked but overall that’s a high risk strategy and it didn’t work.Sorry guys, I lost access to the forums during week 1 for some reason, and I know you all must have missed me and my comments so, so much. I'm actually surprised to see that you even bothered to continue this thread without me.
Anyway, overall thoughts were that it was a pretty disappointing tournament, with Swiatek and Rybakina going out so early, as they are the only real challengers to Sabalenka these days (perhaps with Ostapenko thrown in).
Yes, Gauff made the semis, but it was yet another easy draw for her, and anyone that thinks she has turned a corner or is playing good tennis should just go back and watch her match against Kostyuk.
Zheng made the finals, but that was also the result of a friendly draw, as she still has a lot of holes in her game.
As expected, Raducanu went nowhere fast, since some of you seemed to think something else might have been possible early on.
And lastly, it was nice to see Yastremska back. She is a quirky girl, but she got way too much heat for certain things she did when younger, and her game is pretty fun when she's on.
No, Coco didn't go "toe to toe" with Sabalenka. Not in this semi, and not in the USO final. She tried to, and often did, play very good defense against Sabalenka's offense. Sometimes that was good enough to eventually make Sabalenka get tight and miss, and sometimes it was not. In this last semi she simply didn't miss as many as she did in the USO final (even though she did miss a few easy balls).
And no, they weren't two very tight sets. The first was tight because Sabs was tight, but the second was never really in doubt, save for a touch of nerves when Sabs was serving it out.
Sabalenka is still definitely "bossing" Coco when they play, as she does to every other player that isn't name Iga, Elena or Jelena.
Martina was insanely good. I'm not sure how many people realize just how good she was. There are some remastered videos of her matches against Graf, and they let you see just how amazing both players were. As I've said before, both of them would easily be at the top of the game if they were playing today.
That's not how I saw the match.We just disagree. I am not saying Coco is at Sabalenka’s level. I am saying she can match up with her well, will continue to improve, and that the USO errors that Sabalenka committed didn’t happen in a vacuum. She saw her opponent was not fazed by her power and went for more. There were periods in that match that worked but overall that’s a high risk strategy and it didn’t work.
When a player has to go to a more high risk strategy it shows that their normal game is not good enough anymore to win.
Yes, playing really good defense makes you a tough matchup for just about every player on the current WTA tour, Sabalenka included. It's certainly rare in today's WTA, and that is why Gauff generally beats lesser opponents with ease. But it means a lot of matches aren't fully in her control. As @Mark-Touch said, those matches vs Sabalenka were always going to be decided by Sabalanka and what goes on between her ears.We just disagree. I am not saying Coco is at Sabalenka’s level. I am saying she can match up with her well, will continue to improve, and that the USO errors that Sabalenka committed didn’t happen in a vacuum. She saw her opponent was not fazed by her power and went for more. There were periods in that match that worked but overall that’s a high risk strategy and it didn’t work.
When a player has to go to a more high risk strategy it shows that their normal game is not good enough anymore to win.
Yes, playing really good defense makes you a tough matchup for just about every player on the current WTA tour, Sabalenka included. It's certainly rare in today's WTA, and that is why Gauff generally beats lesser opponents with ease. But it means a lot of matches aren't fully in her control. As @Mark-Touch said, those matches vs Sabalenka were always going to be decided by Sabalanka and what goes on between her ears.
Another good example was her quarter-final vs Kostyuk. That was complete up to Kostyuk to win or lose, and in the end she lost her nerve (as unfortunately many WTA players are prone to do) and handed it to Gauff. But the match was quite bad (I've never heard announcers criticize the level of play as much as they did in that match, and that's with their darling Coco involved!) That Gauff reacted and celebrated the way she did after winning was not just in poor taste, but showed a lack of honest self-awareness.