2024 French Open - Women's Discussion

Who will win the 2024 French Open WTA title?


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Mark-Touch

Legend
As always, the updated list of majors winners since 2010:


Świątek: FO 2020 & 2022, 2023, 2024 & USO 2022

Rybakina: Wimbledon 2022

Sabalenka: AO 2023

Vondroušová: Wimbledon 2023

Gauff: USO 2023

Sabalenka: AO 2024

I think I mentioned something very similar last year.
In the case of Swiatek, you have included her slams altogether (including her latest 2024).
But with Sabalenka, you have made two separate entries for her.
You could easily have made one entry for Sab, like Swiatek.
Not a biggie. :)
 

Zachary

Rookie
It is very good example , how igas body language looks like, she wanted so much to win that match against ryba.... she is so tense..her posture overal is torture to look at thought. Hunched , her DH backhand is so ugly to look at. It is visible how she puts sthength into her shots, even anger. Thats why I dont like watching her matches, her behaviour and body language is terrible
 

zvelf

Hall of Fame
84% of us predicted Iga to win the whole thing, among the most lopsided voting I've ever seen for predictions made before the tournament started, and we were right. Congrats:

She is so great on clay.
 

jmnk

Hall of Fame
It is very good example , how igas body language looks like, she wanted so much to win that match against ryba.... she is so tense..her posture overal is torture to look at thought. Hunched , her DH backhand is so ugly to look at. It is visible how she puts sthength into her shots, even anger. Thats why I dont like watching her matches, her behaviour and body language is terrible
You forgot to add that her cheeks are not pinkish hue enough, and obviously her elbows are too pointy.
Like would it be too much for you to just simply appreciate swiatek once, on the day she won yet another grand slam? You can revert to your normal criticism tomorrow.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
This is hillarious,, Gauff is literally covering 80 % of the court right now... this is just silly cause Siniakova can really play good doubles too, not sure if she has movement restrictions or what....?????? :-D :-D 75 %of the prize money should go to Gauff if they Win,,, just to be fair:p


Gauff and siniakova wins set 1. they seem to be having more fun than the italians.. i guess that is the key in good doubles.. as long as they can both play that is.........lol


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Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Siniakova now with a whopping 8 slam titles in ladies doubles and gets in front of her former partner Krejcikova as well as Hsieh who both have 7.

Only Venus Williams has more doubles titles on tour that is still playing (Queen Vee has 14).
 

Zachary

Rookie
You forgot to add that her cheeks are not pinkish hue enough, and obviously her elbows are too pointy.
Like would it be too much for you to just simply appreciate swiatek once, on the day she won yet another grand slam? You can revert to your normal criticism tomorrow.
I explained her behavior and body language , what bothers me. Many people don't like that at her, because she is like robot.

As talented as Iga is and theres no denying it, however she's the beneficiary of competing against a fairly weak group of players both in terms of talent and mental strength.sorry..
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
84% of us predicted Iga to win the whole thing, among the most lopsided voting I've ever seen for predictions made before the tournament started, and we were right. Congrats:

We shouldn't feel too smug.
I'm sure if you polled all of these winners at 5-2 in the 3rd set for Osaka, most would have picked Osaka to win that 2nd round match.
 

AM75

Hall of Fame
I don't think so, if it was strong paolini would not end up in the final. Semi finals and the final were extremely low level. Or maybe you will tell that paolini andreeva, coco- swiatek were amazing matches?
The same situation was during Graf’s reign until Seles came. There was almost no competition. Sanchez and Sabatini were no real thread. The only interesting WTA era was when Clijsters, Henin, Sharapova and Williams sisters were competing and they had the bunch of Russians like Dementieva, Petrova, Kuznetsova, Stosur and so on in the mix.
 

spystud

Talk Tennis Guru
Mark is always gonna Mark.

Pour guy won’t have any threads to post on until he starts Wimbledon ridiculously early.
 

tennis4me

Hall of Fame
I watched a bit of the replay of the doubles final. From the few games that I saw looked like Gauff/Siniakova was dominating the Italian pair, but the score looked fairly close.

After getting used to seeing (on streaming) many of the 110+ mph serves that most(?) of the singles players are capable of hitting, seeing Errani serve on the screen was really quite amusing. Her 90 mph first serve looked like streaming at 0.5x speed. This is how most rec player's serve will look when taped and played back.

Errani's serve was so slow and shallow landing half way on the serve box. At one occasion, Gauff jumped on the slow loopy serve and drilled Paolini around the right hip. Paolini barely getting her racquet on that which ended like a mini lob mid-court that was smashed by Coco to Errani. I thought that'd be the end of it, but Errani not backing down from the baseline , just calmly blocked the overhead with a half-volley.
Lots of interesting points.

Winners shared $641,070 (€590,000). Not a bad consolation prize for the singles players who decided to play in doubles. Supposedly Siniakova asked Gauff just 2 days before the tournament and Gauff wasn't planning to play doubles.

Siniakova/Krejcikova split was a surprise to many. According to Krejcikova, it was Siniakova who wanted the split. The barely acknowledged each other at the net at the last AO meet.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
The same situation was during Graf’s reign until Seles came. There was almost no competition. Sanchez and Sabatini were no real thread.

A bit of clarity: Sabatini did defeat Graf at the 1990 USO final to win her only major, and had her chances against Graf from time to time (taking Graf to 3 sets in the 1991 Wimbledon final). Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario defeated Graf in two majors finals (1989 French Open and the 1994 USO), so they too were real competition before and into the Seles period.
 

zvelf

Hall of Fame
Rather telling that anyone needed to be informed that one player's performance is not the deciding factor in whether or not a tour is strong. It takes many players. Yeah, whoops. Then again, I'm not really surprised, as this board has a little group of people who worship one player to the degree where ridiculous predictions such as "Iga will break Nadal's French Open record" and other such insightful, extremely fanboyish claims have a home.
Of course, the strength of the tour is not dependent on one player's performance. You depend on straw man arguments constantly. And there will always be a few people on any forum that makes hyperbolic or outrageous claims about Player X or Y. But that is not representative of the forum as a whole. There is no broad group of people claiming Swiatek will become GOAT. That said, what is mutually exclusive is your belief that the WTA Tour is very strong but Iga is not a great player. You can't dominate a strong tour with 110 weeks at #1, possess the longest women's winning streak in over two decades, and win 5 majors while giving out a bakery product one of every 3 sets you play and not be a great player.
 

robyrolfo

Hall of Fame
Siniakova now with a whopping 8 slam titles in ladies doubles and gets in front of her former partner Krejcikova as well as Hsieh who both have 7.
Only Venus Williams has more doubles titles on tour that is still playing (Queen Vee has 14).
As I said, Siniakova was able to finally carry Gauff over the line. It may seem like Gauff was doing more "work" and Siniakova doesn't catch your eye in spectacular fashion, but she is obviously a great doubles player (like Hsieh) who was finally able to get a win for Coco. Also, looks like Gauff is going to stop playing doubles now (or at least take a break), so looks like she will get nowhere close to Venus' 14 titles. Yet another reason why people need to stop putting Gauff in the same sentence as either of the Williams sisters.

And according to the Tennis Podcast, it was Taylor Townsend who setup the Gauff - Siniakova pairing, as Gauff was supposed to play with Townsend, but Taylor was injured and suggested Siniakova. So another Gauff thank you should go to TT.

I explained her behavior and body language , what bothers me. Many people don't like that at her, because she is like robot.
As talented as Iga is and theres no denying it, however she's the beneficiary of competing against a fairly weak group of players both in terms of talent and mental strength.sorry..
Yep. When Iga first came onto the scene, with her whole "nerd" persona and dressed like a nun, I sort of liked her quirky vibe. But since then she has shown her true colors (or lack thereof) and honestly it is really hard to root for her or like her.

And yes, the field is really weak right now. Very few truly strong players, and even fewer with a strong mental game.

The same situation was during Graf’s reign until Seles came. There was almost no competition. Sanchez and Sabatini were no real thread. The only interesting WTA era was when Clijsters, Henin, Sharapova and Williams sisters were competing and they had the bunch of Russians like Dementieva, Petrova, Kuznetsova, Stosur and so on in the mix.
If Sanchez V and Sabatini weren't a real threat to Graf, it's only because Graf was so good. Those were two very competent players that would thrive on today's WTA tour. Sanchez in particular would carve up the 2024 field, simply because she knows how to play smart tennis and wouldn't get rattled.

A bit of clarity: Sabatini did defeat Graf at the 1990 USO final to win her only major, and had her chances against Graf from time to time (taking Graf to 3 sets in the 1991 Wimbledon final). Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario defeated Graf in two majors finals (1989 French Open and the 1994 USO), so they too were real competition before and into the Seles period.
Yep, see above. Those were good players simply eclipsed by the domination and amazing play of Graf and Seles. Look at how well Ash Barty did before retiring. She was like a modern day, slightly inferior version of players from that era, and she was still world #1 (often on a part-time schedule).
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Of course, the strength of the tour is not dependent on one player's performance. You depend on straw man arguments constantly. And there will always be a few people on any forum that makes hyperbolic or outrageous claims about Player X or Y. But that is not representative of the forum as a whole. There is no broad group of people claiming Swiatek will become GOAT. That said, what is mutually exclusive is your belief that the WTA Tour is very strong but Iga is not a great player. You can't dominate a strong tour with 110 weeks at #1, possess the longest women's winning streak in over two decades, and win 5 majors while giving out a bakery product one of every 3 sets you play and not be a great player.
No, what is clear is your repeated, wildly unhinged accusations simply to flame, such as mocking my thinking the tour is strong based on results of many, unlike a certain group of zealots following one female player, believing the tour only survives through/because of her.

Members making so called hyperbolic statements are not some outlier where Swiatek is concerned, but a common, daily event, and a desperate one to be certain. From scattered predictions that she will surpass Nadal or Evert, or other fantasies, there's an undeniable push to place a certain kind of crown on her head, one she has yet to earn.
 

tennis24x7

Professional
Siniakova now with a whopping 8 slam titles in ladies doubles and gets in front of her former partner Krejcikova as well as Hsieh who both have 7.

Only Venus Williams has more doubles titles on tour that is still playing (Queen Vee has 14).
how many does Waste Mirza have?
 

zvelf

Hall of Fame
No, what is clear is your repeated, wildly unhinged accusations simply to flame, such as mocking my thinking the tour is strong based on results of many, unlike a certain group of zealots following one female player, believing the tour only survives through/because of her.

Members making so called hyperbolic statements are not some outlier where Swiatek is concerned, but a common, daily event, and a desperate one to be certain. From scattered predictions that she will surpass Nadal or Evert, or other fantasies, there's an undeniable push to place a certain kind of crown on her head, one she has yet to earn.
If you think my posts are unhinged flaming, then you are the most sensitive soul on the planet. In any case, I'm not the one who thinks the tour is weak. Zachary and Robyrolfo are the ones who think the tour is among the weakest it's ever been. Convince them otherwise.

So tell me, how many slams would Swiatek have to win before you admit that she is a great player or do you already consider her a great player?
 
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