2024 Rome Open ATP Master's 1000 R64 - (PR) Rafael Nadal [ESP] v/s (7) Hubert Hurkacz [POL]

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Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
Here we go folks,

First ever match between the two, a bit surprising but it is what it is. So, what's your pick here? Does Rafa beat the Tall Pol or will the Hubie man get the W??

Vote and discuss.
 
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Kralingen

Bionic Poster
It will be an epic victory if it happens. I’m not too hopeful, Rafa’s return and ability to hit the stretched passing shots is nowhere near what we’d expect from him. But Hurkacz is kind of clueless on clay, so he definitely has a chance.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
The man is retiring, let him savor some last victories on the tour, regardless of how he progresses through the rounds.
:D

Savor them by devouring those defenseless puppies you speak about. Go feast Rafa. :)
 
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Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
It will be an epic victory if it happens. I’m not too hopeful, Rafa’s return and ability to hit the stretched passing shots is nowhere near what we’d expect from him. But Hurkacz is kind of clueless on clay, so he definitely has a chance.
The last servebot Rafa destroyed in Rome was Opelka in 2021.
 
The obvious choice is Hurkacz in straight sets. But it's Nadal on clay, in his last appearance in Rome, so who knows ... I've gone with Nadal in 3 but it's more wishful thinking. (I'm not even a Nadal fan and I quite like Hubi, so not sure what's going on ...).
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
I want to Nadal to win, though I'm not picking him to win. It will be good to see him against a player of Hurczak's caliber.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Wasn't it to London?
:D
Nah that train was to London, Ohio. One-way visit, you can check-in but never leave,
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nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Not surprising at all that these 2 never met.

Hurkacz best results in RG is R16 while avg result is R1/R2 exit.

Hurkacz best results in clay masters is QF while avg result is R1/R2 exit.

Now the question is, is Nadal of 2024 worse than average player outside top 32 that Hurkacz faced almost 20 of the events where he got knocked out in R1/R2 ?

This is pretty low bar to cross for Nadal. I think he is top 10/15 clay player in 2024.
 
It will be an epic victory if it happens. I’m not too hopeful, Rafa’s return and ability to hit the stretched passing shots is nowhere near what we’d expect from him. But Hurkacz is kind of clueless on clay, so he definitely has a chance.

He’s played well this clay season. Also, Rafito’s return looks like trash—Lehecka blew him off the court with his serve.
 
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DIMI_D

Hall of Fame
Anyone that think Nadal will win this has rocks in their heads. He is well and truly cooked no serve no movement struggling to beat challenger level players on clay..
Can’t even move side to side has to be central balls so he can smack them the movement is beyond compromised I don’t know how people can’t see that when he has to run to the ball he can’t do that he has to be stationary to hit the ball. He was exposed badly the other day I still was hoping more he would just click into the Rafa of old but that ain’t happening he is well and truly done not even competitive anymore
 
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nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Anyone that think Nadal will win this has rocks in their heads. He is well and truly cooked no serve no movement struggling to beat challenger level players on clay..
Can’t even move side to side has to be central balls so he can smack them the movement is beyond compromised I don’t know how people can’t see that when he has to run to the ball he can’t do that he has to be stationary to hit the ball. He was exposed badly the other day I still was hoping more he would just click into the Rafa of old but that ain’t happening he is well and truly done not even competitive anymore

Lol
 

Matmac

Rookie
Hurkacz to beat Rafa on the Spaniard's favourite surface to end his career, like he did to Federer at Wimbledon. Then the only thing left for him to do is to end Djokovic's career at the Australian Open. The nicest guy on tour doing the meanest things to the sport's GOATs.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Hurkacz to beat Rafa on the Spaniard's favourite surface to end his career, like he did to Federer at Wimbledon. Then the only thing left for him to do is to end Djokovic's career at the Australian Open. The nicest guy on tour doing the meanest things to the sport's GOATs.
It won't happen. Hurkacz is trash clay player

Even if he lucked out a 250 this year. Nadal is winning vs him here.

If Nadal played on faster courts, it would be game over. On clay Hurkacz is a nobody.
 

Matmac

Rookie
Hurkacz is also very good player at Wimbledon. He could one day even get to final. He is no threat on clay.
You are right, of course. My intention was to put a nice spin on things, rather than make a serious prediction. The more likely scenario is that Nadal moves Hurkacz side to side, making him chop some forehands, wearing him down, with HH winning maybe 10 percent of longer rallies.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
You are right, of course. My intention was to put a nice spin on things, rather than make a serious prediction. The more likely scenario is that Nadal moves Hurkacz side to side, making him chop some forehands, wearing him down, with HH winning maybe 10 percent of longer rallies.
100 %
 

DIMI_D

Hall of Fame
Hurkacz to beat Rafa on the Spaniard's favourite surface to end his career, like he did to Federer at Wimbledon. Then the only thing left for him to do is to end Djokovic's career at the Australian Open. The nicest guy on tour doing the meanest things to the sport's GOATs.
Hurc is hungry for another bagel with some chorizo sauce to add to his Swiss sauerkraut I’m afraid
 

tennis24x7

Professional
Anyone that think Nadal will win this has rocks in their heads. He is well and truly cooked no serve no movement struggling to beat challenger level players on clay..
Can’t even move side to side has to be central balls so he can smack them the movement is beyond compromised I don’t know how people can’t see that when he has to run to the ball he can’t do that he has to be stationary to hit the ball. He was exposed badly the other day I still was hoping more he would just click into the Rafa of old but that ain’t happening he is well and truly done not even competitive anymore
Sure Nadal will be bread sticked maybe even a bagel thrown in by the great clay court player Hurkaz.
 
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ALCARAZWON

Guest
Hurkacz with an incredible 31-29 record on clay.
I know Nadal has been 10 times better at Roland Garros than at the other clay events during the last 5 or 6 years, but no chance of Nadal losing this one.
 

Tennisfan339

Professional
It will be an epic victory if it happens. I’m not too hopeful, Rafa’s return and ability to hit the stretched passing shots is nowhere near what we’d expect from him. But Hurkacz is kind of clueless on clay, so he definitely has a chance.

Especially on slow clay. If it was Madrid or a small court, I would favor Hurkacz. But the center court of Rome is very slow, maybe Hurkacz's worst conditions. His serve won't help him here, he is toast if if Nadal can return.
 

DIMI_D

Hall of Fame
don't be afraid, no way to go through life
I’m not it’s just better embracing the real world but say he does get past hurc and he is capable ups his level his cooked for the next round anyway he just can’t sustain the level needed fitness wise either. So he has 1% chance the following round to win against a clay courter cool i am super excited about his prospects going forward not. Milking this retirement thing lol
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
It won't happen. Hurkacz is trash clay player

Even if he lucked out a 250 this year. Nadal is winning vs him here.

If Nadal played on faster courts, it would be game over. On clay Hurkacz is a nobody.
And on grass he is a great choker.
:whistle:
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Hurkacz to end 2 out of the big 3’s career. Whatever Nadal does here will be better than Fed at W getting bagelled by a servebot on grass was sad to see.

Hurkacz is the better player but Nadal is Nadal and its clay so I am now sure
 
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