2024 Sinner vs 2016 Murray

[Berrettini_Fan]

I have highlighted the respective stats for which each player is superior. Who had the better season?

2016 Murray
78-9 Record
9 Titles
13 Finals
1 Slam
3 Slam Finals + QF
3 Masters
YEC
Olympic Gold (counted as official ATP title in 2016)
24-match winning streak to end season
Titles on 3 surfaces (1x Clay, 2x Grass, and 6x Hard)
2-3 record vs Archrival (Djokovic)

2024 Sinner
73-6 Record
8 Titles
9 Finals
2 Slams
2 Slam Finals + SF + QF
3 Masters
YEC
Didn't lose any match in straight sets
2x Positive Doping Results
Titles on 2 surfaces (1x Grass and 7x Hard)
0-3 record vs Archrival (Alcaraz)

 

[nolefam_2024]

Sinner

 

[3loudboys]

Murray

 

[Pheasant]

Sinner easily. He was a wrecking ball all year. Had Sinner only won 1 slam, then I'd still say that he was better in 2024 than Murray was in 2016. Sinner was one of 3 players since 1991 to put together 70 wins with a .900 winning pct while having a Dominance Ratio of 1.40 or higher(other two were named Federer and Djokovic).

Player	W-L record	winning pct	DR
Federer, 2004	75-6	.926	1.40
Federer, 2006	92-5	.948	1.40
Djokovic, 2015	83-6	.933	1.42
Sinner, 2024	73-6	.924	1.41
Murray, 2016	78-9	.897	1.29

Sinner's 2024 was historically great. Murray's 2016 was simply great.

 

[Neptune]

When comparing the No. 1 players is a struggle, maybe include the No. 2 for perspective?
2016 Nole (11,780 points) vs. 2024 Zverev (7,915 points).

 

[Dominic & Andrey]

Wait wasn't this thread already done recently?

 

[Berrettini_Fan]

When comparing the No. 1 players is a struggle, maybe include the No. 2 for perspective?
2016 Nole (11,780 points) vs. 2024 Zverev (7,915 points).

2016 Year-end Top 10
1. Andy Murray
2. Novak Djokovic
3. Milos Raonic
4. Stan Wawrinka
5. Kei Nishikori
6. Marin Cilic
7. Gael Monfils
8. Dominic Thiem
9. Rafael Nadal
10. Tomas Berdych
*Roger Federer had season-ending surgery after Wimbledon or he would've finished top 10 easily.

2024 Year-end Top 10
1. Jannik Sinner
2. Alexander Z
3. Carlos Alcaraz
4. Taylor Fritz
5. Danil Medvedev
6. Casper Ruud
7. Novak Djokovic
8. Andrey Rublev
9. Alex De Minaur
10. Grigor Dimitrov

 

[The Blond Blur]

Well The Sinner is a confirmed doper and MurrayGOAT took advantage of a Big 3 vacuum when they were all out with injury or slumping. It’s a tough call to make. Ultimately The Sinner peaked higher and achieved more, but he committed the grave sin of illegal performance enhancement. MurrayGOAT takes it by default.

 

[NatF]

As much as I hate to admit it 2016 Murray probably wins 3 slams in 2024.

 

[Jonesy]

Probably Sinner, better serve and a high percentage striker. Murray is still stronger mentally.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

As much as I hate to admit it 2016 Murray probably wins 3 slams in 2024.

 

[Third Serve]

As much as I hate to admit it 2016 Murray probably wins 3 slams in 2024.

You think he takes RG? I don’t know. As rough as the 2024 final was, Murray was terrible apart from the first set.

 

[NatF]

You think he takes RG? I don’t know. As rough as the 2024 final was, Murray was terrible apart from the first set.

I think he would beat Raz considering SF forms and I ain't picking Zed over Murray even though Murray laid an egg in the final.

 

[Dominic & Andrey]

Good grief this makes me remember how much Murray's grinding game in 2016 was effective yet so boring to watch. I won't forgive Raonic for losing all year long to him. I remember being so freaking delighted when Nishikori took him out at the USO. (Sorry to the Murray fans)

 

[Aabye5]

I think he would beat Raz considering SF forms and I ain't picking Zed over Murray even though Murray laid an egg in the final.

Yes, Murray really seems to relish playing Zed.

 

[Third Serve]

I think he would beat Raz considering SF forms and I ain't picking Zed over Murray even though Murray laid an egg in the final.

That’s true, the SF was perhaps Murray’s finest match at RG.

 

[Berrettini_Fan]

Well The Sinner is a confirmed doper and MurrayGOAT took advantage of a Big 3 vacuum when they were all out with injury or slumping. It’s a tough call to make. Ultimately The Sinner peaked higher and achieved more, but he committed the grave sin of illegal performance enhancement. MurrayGOAT takes it by default.

But did Sinner peak higher bc he was doping?

 

[btsjungkook]

Murray of course. Better competition and didn't need to dope.

 

[Berrettini_Fan]

MuryGOAT has won the poll!

 

[nolefam_2024]

MuryGOAT has won the poll!

Big 3 fanatics need to be severely punished.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

Murray didn't take clostebol juice. So Murray.

 

[Berrettini_Fan]

Murray didn't take clostebol juice. So Murray.

Murray's PED of choice is a Playstation Dualsense Controller

 

[3loudboys]

MuryGOAT has won the poll!

Never in doubt