2024- The Year of Sinner. What happened?

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After Sinner was seemingly building a historic season he finds himself even further behind Alcaraz.

4-1 in slams won despite being 1 year older.

If he can't close the gap now at his peak how will he do so in the future?


Holger Rune will have a greater chance to catch Alcaraz I think.
 
GRASScaraz said:
After Sinner was seemingly building a historic season he finds himself even further behind Alcaraz.

4-1 in slams won despite being 1 year older.

If he can't close the gap now at his peak how will he do so in the future?


Holger Rune will have a greater chance to catch Alcaraz I think.
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Nobody is catching the greatest Carlos, this man is a one way show. Respect to Carlos the best on every surface right now .
 
GRASScaraz said:
After Sinner was seemingly building a historic season he finds himself even further behind Alcaraz.

4-1 in slams won despite being 1 year older.

If he can't close the gap now at his peak how will he do so in the future


Holger Rune will have a greater chance to catch Alcaraz I think.
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I believe to be a "sinner" in tennis you have to have "malice" and Alcaraz, despite his mischievous smile, has that degree of killer instinct that the surnamed sinner lacks.
 
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For 2 straight majors he ended up looking like a sickly child, and if his final opponent in Australia hadn't spent an entire day of his life on court during the tournament there is a significant question mark over how that might have ended up too. This kid needs to get the eye of the tiger. Darren Cahill really did seem to help Halep in that department, and he needs to repeat the trick. This is pure Rocky III, Roland Garros was getting beat by Mr. T, and Wimbledon was Mickey dying. Get it together, son.
 
The GOAT Race:

Throne Race: from 1 : 285 : 102 to 428 : 310 : 209

Slam Race: from 1 : 16 : 9 to 24 : 20 : 22

Top10Win Race: from 39 : 135 : 72 to 257 : 224 : 186

Who would have imagined?


Now Sinner-Alcaraz Race: What's your prediction, Sinner fans and Alcaraz fans?

Throne Race: from 5 : 36 to ??

Slam Race: from 1 : 4 to ??

Top10Win Race: from 29 : 31 to ??
 
NeutralFan said:
Lmao even as a Sinner fan it cracked me up. However hype won't die i guarantee you , Sinner was unfortunate with two injuries else we would have been talking about him getting CYGS now.
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Sinner’s body is becoming a real issue. At some point you have to worry about his constitution, you know. Some people just don’t stay fit, they have constant issues. He is still relatively young, at least.
 
The road to redemption for Sinner begins with the OLYMPICS and continues with hard court dominance at US Open and ends the year with a bang at year ending championships .
 
GRASScaraz said:
After Sinner was seemingly building a historic season he finds himself even further behind Alcaraz.

4-1 in slams won despite being 1 year older.

If he can't close the gap now at his peak how will he do so in the future?


Holger Rune will have a greater chance to catch Alcaraz I think.
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No. Rune is just a mug. He's not going to win anything.
 
GRASScaraz said:
After Sinner was seemingly building a historic season he finds himself even further behind Alcaraz.

4-1 in slams won despite being 1 year older.

If he can't close the gap now at his peak how will he do so in the future?


Holger Rune will have a greater chance to catch Alcaraz I think.
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Holger Rune has a better chance of catching the train to Finland with Rafael Nadal than he does of catching Alcaraz.
Also Sinner is still 22 and World #1. He won AO and Miami, I don't know why everyone was expecting a 2011 Djokovic-esque run.
 
Still looks like a good year for sinner. Went how I pretty much expected it. 2 slams a piece for Carlos and sinner. And sinner takes the year end title too. Thought sinner would get Wimbledon. But 2 slams for the year (after winning the US open and sweeping the HC slam season this year) , indoor year end title. I would say that’s a damn solid season. Less than he’s capable of but a season most everyone would be happy with outside the Big 3.
Next year sinner gets his fitness right and sweeps 95’percent of the big titles. Calendar slam or at the very least 3 slam year and his Wimbledon dominance begins next year too

I think sinner makes a coaching change soon too which will help
 
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TheGoldenEra1990’s said:
Still looks like a good year for sinner. Went how I pretty much expected it. 2 slams a piece for Carlos and sinner. And sinner takes the year end title too. Thought sinner would get Wimbledon. But 2 slams for the year (after winning the US open and sweeping the HC slam season this year) , indoor year end title. I would say that’s a damn solid season. Less than he’s capable of but a season most everyone would be happy with outside the Big 3.
Next year sinner gets his fitness right and sweeps 95’percent of the big titles. Calendar slam or at the very least 3 slam year and his Wimbledon dominance begins next year too

I think sinner makes a coaching change soon too which will help
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All of this is in your head, none of it has happened yet :-D
 
Similar to how the year of Alcaraz was the year or Nadal despite the USO 2022 tbf.

Though from a tribalistic pov, the Sintroll tears in the year of Sinner are some salty delicacy.

It was already kinda funny at IW. Then Raz got injured again only to make the year funnier anyway by clinching the calander slam.
 
Still a lot to play for and a pretty tight race at the moment. 4 hardcourt masters, all pretty fast, the USO, and the ATP Finals. Still time to right the ship.

Still, the last six weeks have gone Carlos' way and completely shifted the season's storyline.
 
xFedal said:
Can he save his year by winning US Open ?
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Nothing needs to be "saved." There used to be a commonly understood principle of measuring tennis success which held that any year in which a player won a slam was a very good year. Period. Moreover, Sinner also has won a Master's event, and two smaller tournaments on different surfaces. Plus, he had a strong showing at the FO (SF) and a respectable one at Wimbledon (QF). And he climbed up to No. 1 in the rankings! If Sinner did not play at all in the second half of 2024, this year would still go down as a good year for him when doing some kind of career summary years in the future.

The notion that a player's annual results are weak or unsatisfactory if they are not as strong as another player's results is silly. The decade-long fixation on the purported GOAT race among the Big Three apparently has led to the erroneous view that a top player's tennis success can be measured only in comparison to a rival's results. That's just wrong, especially when the players involved are quite young and nowhere near any meaningful GOAT conversation.
 
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Wow, is this crowd tough on Sinner. Maybe, he should jump off of a cliff, just like Federer should have jumped off of a cliff in 2005 when he also only had 1 slam title that year after the Wimbledon tourney. After all, wasn't Fed washed up after losing the AO and then the FO in 2005?

Here are the best winning percentages for 2024. Only two guys are above .800. One guy is above .900. One guy leads these 10 guys in winning pct, titles won for the year, and most match wins.


PlayerIndexTitlesWin/Loss
0.913442-4
0.846333-6
0.784240-11
0.769140-12
0.767033-10
0.767023-7
0.75236-12
0.744132-11
0.738231-11
0.729235-13
 
Pheasant said:
Wow, is this crowd tough on Sinner. Maybe, he should jump off of a cliff, just like Federer should have jumped off of a cliff in 2005 when he also only had 1 slam title that year after the Wimbledon tourney. After all, wasn't Fed washed up after losing the AO and then the FO in 2005?

Here are the best winning percentages for 2024. Only two guys are above .800. One guy is above .900. One guy leads these 10 guys in winning pct, titles won for the year, and most match wins.


PlayerIndexTitlesWin/Loss
0.913442-4
0.846333-6
0.784240-11
0.769140-12
0.767033-10
0.767023-7
0.75236-12
0.744132-11
0.738231-11
0.729235-13
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Those percentages mean nothing when you have Ruud Mr. ATP 250 Vulture at third place. Now do one for slams only.
 
Pheasant said:
Wow, is this crowd tough on Sinner. Maybe, he should jump off of a cliff, just like Federer should have jumped off of a cliff in 2005 when he also only had 1 slam title that year after the Wimbledon tourney. After all, wasn't Fed washed up after losing the AO and then the FO in 2005?

Here are the best winning percentages for 2024. Only two guys are above .800. One guy is above .900. One guy leads these 10 guys in winning pct, titles won for the year, and most match wins.


PlayerIndexTitlesWin/Loss
0.913442-4
0.846333-6
0.784240-11
0.769140-12
0.767033-10
0.767023-7
0.75236-12
0.744132-11
0.738231-11
0.729235-13
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We've been told by the Sinner devotes - the less kind might say nutcases (we all know who they are) about the coming Sinner Tsunami, how he was going to sweep all before him, how he was 'going to win Wimbledon', all said without equivocation - and it turns out they were wrong. So it's with utter glee that these threads rub their rather stupid noses in the dirt, and i'm celebrating.
Winning percentages - seriously?
 
Neptune said:
The GOAT Race:

Throne Race: from 1 : 285 : 102 to 428 : 310 : 209

Slam Race: from 1 : 16 : 9 to 24 : 20 : 22

Top10Win Race: from 39 : 135 : 72 to 257 : 224 : 186

Who would have imagined?


Now Sinner-Alcaraz Race: What's your prediction, Sinner fans and Alcaraz fans?

Throne Race: from 5 : 36 to ??

Slam Race: from 1 : 4 to ??

Top10Win Race: from 29 : 31 to ??
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nole had 31 topW in his GOAT season alone
(and in his GOAT year W15-RG16)
 
GRASScaraz said:
After Sinner was seemingly building a historic season he finds himself even further behind Alcaraz.

4-1 in slams won despite being 1 year older.

If he can't close the gap now at his peak how will he do so in the future?


Holger Rune will have a greater chance to catch Alcaraz I think.
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Technical flaws in his game are yet to be fixed.
 
James P said:
Still a lot to play for and a pretty tight race at the moment. 4 hardcourt masters, all pretty fast, the USO, and the ATP Finals. Still time to right the ship.

Still, the last six weeks have gone Carlos' way and completely shifted the season's storyline.
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I want to see Alcaraz's techniques & methods transit fluently from grass to low bouncing HC; it'd be such a joy if he'd be able to unlock that.
 
Alcaraz 2.0 happened - champion of Indian Wells, French Open and Wimbledon. 2.0 is serving better, hitting his BH better and starting to tighten his game up in tough matches and make less unforced errors.
 
taster said:
We've been told by the Sinner devotes - the less kind might say nutcases (we all know who they are) about the coming Sinner Tsunami, how he was going to sweep all before him, how he was 'going to win Wimbledon', all said without equivocation - and it turns out they were wrong. So it's with utter glee that these threads rub their rather stupid noses in the dirt, and i'm celebrating.
Winning percentages - seriously?
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Sw19 was slated to be his playground as early as two years ago even.
 
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