2024 US OPEN draw is out! Medvedev has Sinner, Alcaraz and Djoko on his path!

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Dream draw? He has the toughest first 4 rounds out of any Top 8 seed

2R Djere: took Djokovic to 5 here last year
3R Popyrin: Canada champion
4R Tiafoe/Shelton: Cincy finalist or guy who serves 140+
Apart from losing to Nadal at the FO22 QF and withdrawals/defaults, Djokovic doesn’t lose before the semi or final at Slams since he made his second career resurgence in mid-2018. So I wouldn’t worry about his first week competition. Pretty much the only thing that matters is if he has a tougher semifinal opponent or not to forecast whether he is a shoo-in only for the semi or for the final also.

A healthy Djokovic is not going to lose in Slams to the likes of Djere, Popyrin, Tiafoe/Shelton etc. - he hasn’t in 6 years.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Apart from losing to Nadal at the FO22 QF and withdrawals/defaults, Djokovic doesn’t lose before the semi or final at Slams since he made his second career resurgence in mid-2018. So I wouldn’t worry about his first week competition. Pretty much the only thing that matters is if he has a tougher semifinal opponent or not to forecast whether he is a shoo-in only for the semi or for the final also.

A healthy Djokovic is not going to lose in Slams to the likes of Djere, Popyrin, Tiafoe/Shelton etc. - he hasn’t in 6 years.
That's because Djokovic is too good

any draw is weak for him. Only thing that would flip this would be Medvedev in QF and Raz in SF.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
All this whining because Djokovic didn't get Medvedev and Alcaraz in his QF and SF. Fat chance in hell of that happening. You know why? Because Djokovic/Alcaraz is the hottest ticket in town and the USTA weren't going to screw up the possibility of that final; especially considering they don't know how many more years Djokovic has left to play there and play on this level. Instead, Sinner gets that draw who is shrouded in controversy right now. Coincidence? I don't think so. Djokovic's draw isn't even that easy. He's got some in form players to keep him on his toes and push him. Nobody is forcing you guys to watch the tournament.
 
Aus open is too far away .... everybody will be fresh by that time .... no guarantee how much Novak will decline in the off season while the young players get better.

This Slam is a must win.... just hope he is full fit and everybody else collapses ... especially Alcaraz.

As @Rafa4LifeEver said in the other thread of his

Alcaraz can Outmuscle + Outlast + Outclutch all at the same time.. the only guy who is a big threat.
Sinner can Outmuscle but cannot Outlast and damn right Novak will Outclutch him too.
Med can Outlast but cannot Outmuscle and damn right Novak will Outclutch him too.
Zverev can Outlast+Outmuscle but Mentally he is a weak man.

Everybody else is a pu$$y,

So Djokovic need to really make this opportunity count. Don't trust the next AO, many variables will be in play by then.
I agree. His chances get less each time as ages more and his draws get worse. This might be one of his best chances left for 25. We will see what happens.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
All this whining because Djokovic didn't get Medvedev and Alcaraz in his QF and SF. Fat chance in hell of that happening. You know why? Because Djokovic/Alcaraz is the hottest ticket in town and the USTA weren't going to screw up the possibility of that final; especially considering they don't know how many more years Djokovic has left to play there and play on this level. Instead, Sinner gets that draw who is shrouded in controversy right now. Coincidence? I don't think so. Djokovic's draw isn't even that easy. He's got some in form players to keep him on his toes and push him. Nobody is forcing you guys to watch the tournament.
Djokovic Sinner final ?
 

Pheasant

Legend
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Hitman

Bionic Poster
So Alcaraz cannot beat Monfils and do the simple task of just making a masters quarter final, by only having to win two matches, and getting that number two seed.....

But yeah, lets all cry about how Djokovic is getting easy draws. Had Raz done his job properly, Djokovic would have had to face both Sinner and Alcaraz back to back something he clearly doesn't mind doing, as he made no effort himself to come and defend his Cincy points.
 

ND-13

Legend
Looks like ATP desperately wants DJokovic to win 25th major to divert news from Sinner. They know Alcaraz is burnt out some what.

Thus the cream draw continues.

We had Kopriva / Fearnley / Poppy / Runelol / Bye/Musetti at Wimb.

Now a bunch of jokers for early rounds and Rublev/Zverev for QF and SF. Put Med, Alcaraz and Sinner all on the other side , so they have nothing left , just like 2023.

They make the draws ultra boring to manipulate the result.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
All this whining because Djokovic didn't get Medvedev and Alcaraz in his QF and SF. Fat chance in hell of that happening. You know why? Because Djokovic/Alcaraz is the hottest ticket in town and the USTA weren't going to screw up the possibility of that final; especially considering they don't know how many more years Djokovic has left to play there and play on this level. Instead, Sinner gets that draw who is shrouded in controversy right now. Coincidence? I don't think so. Djokovic's draw isn't even that easy. He's got some in form players to keep him on his toes and push him. Nobody is forcing you guys to watch the tournament.

The draws are fixed, they will want to punish Sinner, and also hope they get their money match that everyone wants to see....the rubber match between Alcaraz v Djokovic.

It's all about making money, and Djokovic is their money maker.
 

Midaso240

Legend
The draws are fixed, they will want to punish Sinner, and also hope they get their money match that everyone wants to see....the rubber match between Alcaraz v Djokovic.

It's all about making money, and Djokovic is their money maker.
I think Zverev can be the party pooper, he took Djokovic to 5 years ago at the USO when Djokovic was playing better than now and Zverev was worse
 
I think Zverev can be the party pooper, he took Djokovic to 5 years ago at the USO when Djokovic was playing better than now and Zverev was worse
The problem with Zverev is he’s a choker under pressure, his diabetic condition affects his stamina deep in majors and his FH breaks down.

It not a guarantee he reaches SF but if he does and Djokovic does, I think djoko would have the edge mentally and physically.

He does have the game though and weapons but mentally and physically he struggles.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
The draws are fixed, they will want to punish Sinner, and also hope they get their money match that everyone wants to see....the rubber match between Alcaraz v Djokovic.

It's all about making money, and Djokovic is their money maker.
Exactly, and we were calling this weeks ago. It was obvious how this draw would go and the USO draws are 100% fixed. This is a business at the end of the day, and they are trying to make money and get higher ratings. When the Sinner doping scandal broke, I knew he'd get the toughest draw of the top 4 since they would rather he not be in the final, imo.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Exactly, and we were calling this weeks ago. It was obvious how this draw would go and the USO draws are 100% fixed. When the Sinner doping scandal broke, I knew he'd get the toughest draw of the top 4.

Sinner's situation has rocked the entire sporting world, he is the world number one in tennis, the face of the sport, and has all this nuclear heat heading into USO. It was obvious they were going to make it very hard for him. The fix was in.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Sinner's situation has rocked the entire sporting world, he is the world number in tennis, the face of the sport, and has all this nuclear heat heading into USO. It was obvious they were going to make it very hard for him. The fix was in.
Yep, it has and they aren't stupid and know how this looks in the sporting world. Everybody's watching and the USO does not want him as champion. Believe that.
 

Phenomenal

Hall of Fame
So Alcaraz cannot beat Monfils and do the simple task of just making a masters quarter final, by only having to win two matches, and getting that number two seed.....

But yeah, lets all cry about how Djokovic is getting easy draws. Had Raz done his job properly, Djokovic would have had to face both Sinner and Alcaraz back to back something he clearly doesn't mind doing, as he made no effort himself to come and defend his Cincy points.
Alcaraz doesn't need to win every match and he can't, already got 2 slams. Would Djokovic reach Wimbledon F and defend his points had he got Sinner's draw? He was little ahead in rankings just because Carlos couldn't defend his points in Queens.

Berrettini Medvedev then Alcaraz in SF? Likely would have lost to Alcaraz if not earlier. Not this one why in 4 of the last 5 slams Djokovic is in opposite half of both Sinner and Alcaraz and 3 in a row now.

For making money maybe but it was not the case in many examples.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Had Nadal played, we very likely would have got got Djokodal 2nd round also. Just to add that extra spice to the madness we already have.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Sinner - What have you done?!
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Phenomenal

Hall of Fame
Yep, it has and they aren't stupid and know how this looks in the sporting world. Everybody's watching and the USO does not want him as champion. Believe that.
Shouldn't be treated that way. And who really know the sitution? Either ban him if they think what he did was clear wrong or don't treat like that at all.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Alcaraz doesn't need to win every match and he can't, already got 2 slams. Would Djokovic reach Wimbledon F and defend his points had he got Sinner's draw? He was little ahead in rankings just because Carlos couldn't defend his points in Queens.

Berrettini Medvedev then Alcaraz in SF? Likely would have lost to Alcaraz if not earlier. Not this one why in 4 of the last 5 slams Djokovic is in opposite half of both Sinner and Alcaraz and 3 in a row now.

For making money maybe but it was not the case in many examples.

But he did NEED to win two matches in Cincinnati if he wanted that number two seed and not be left at the mercy of the draw fixing that these slams do. They want Djokovic v Alcaraz part three in the slam final, especially after that Olympic final, More than likely Djokovic gets Sinner's half had Alcaraz done his job in Cincinnati. All this crying about Djokovic, when he literally didn't seem to care what his ranking was.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Shouldn't be treated that way. And who really know the sitution? Either ban him if they think what he did was clear wrong or don't treat like that at all.
It's not personal, just business. This wouldn't be a good look until everything calms down.
 
But he did NEED to win two matches in Cincinnati if he wanted that number two seed and not be left at the mercy of the draw fixing that these slams do. They want Djokovic v Alcaraz part three in the slam final, especially after that Olympic final, More than likely Djokovic gets Sinner's half had Alcaraz done his job in Cincinnati. All this crying about Djokovic, when he literally didn't seem to care what his ranking was.
The funny thing is Djokovic put it on a plate for sinner and alcaraz or even Zverev to be top 2 seeds and they messed it up. I don’t understand why they crying for something alcaraz and Zverev messed up! lol
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
The funny thing is Djokovic put it on a plate for sinner and alcaraz or even Zverev to be top 2 seeds and they messed it up. I don’t understand why they crying for something alcaraz and Zverev messed up! lol

Yes, Djokovic just gave it to them. He clearly doesn't care, he was expecting for his ranking to fall below 2, because he was losing 1000 points, but he was too busy enjoying himself. They had a direct shot at the goal, and then messed up....but lets all get upset about how Djokovic gets easy draws.

How about having a go at the ones who truly messed this chance up.
 
Yes, Djokovic just gave it to them. He clearly doesn't care, he was expecting for his ranking to fall below 2, because he was losing 1000 points, but he was too busy enjoying himself. They had a direct shot at the goal, and then messed up....but lets all get upset about how Djokovic gets easy draws.

How about having a go at the ones who truly messed this chance up.
It is so predictable with these posters. No matter what it will be Djokovic fault somehow. He could save a baby in a burning house but he’d be excused of starting it! Sad but true!
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
It is so predictable with these posters. No matter what it will be Djokovic fault somehow. He could save a baby in a burning house but he’d be excused of starting it! Sad but true!

LOL - Exactly. Djokovic practically offering up his number two ranking on a silver platter and BOTH Alcaraz and Zverev failed to get it. Like what more should he do? He lost 1000 points and still is ranked number two.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
They won’t be satisfied unless he’s dropped far enough down the rankings to get the draw from hell! LOL

The - Why does this always happen? Why is Djokovic so lucky? Why does he keep getting away with it?

LOL - If other players win the matches they are meant to win to get the rankings they need, he wouldn't get away with it. He didn't even give a crap of the seedings, to busy showing off his new gold medal.
 
The - Why does this always happen? Why is Djokovic so lucky? Why does he keep getting away with it?

LOL - If other players win the matches they are meant to win to get the rankings they need, he wouldn't get away with it. He didn't even give a crap of the seedings, to busy showing off his new gold medal.
It funny how they ignore this and just focus on Djokovic luck. I mean this could have completely been avoided.
 
Djokovic sat out two masters.....Zverev played both, should have done better in Canada. Alcaraz certainly should have made the quarters, he couldn't even beat washed up Monfils.

But yeah, luckovic strikes again...
To be fair Zverev and alcaraz draws aren’t that bad to the semis and they 3rd and 4th seed. It is only Sinner from the top 4 who’s been screwed here. Sinner fans can moan but not anyone else. As alcaraz can benefit if say sinner v Meddy have a 5 set war again.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
To be fair Zverev and alcaraz draws aren’t that bad to the semis and they 3rd and 4th seed. It is only Sinner from the top 4 who’s been screwed here. Sinner fans can moan but not anyone else. As alcaraz can benefit if say sinner v Meddy have a 5 set war again.

I agree that overall draw is quite balanced outside of what Sinner got, but we knew that the draw rigging was going to do that.

It's just that many of Novak's haters want him to go through Medvedev quarters, Sinner semis and Alcaraz final, and anything less than that, and it's luckovic strikes again, when he literally gave them all a free shot to push him out of the 2nd ranked position.
 
I agree that overall draw is quite balanced outside of what Sinner got, but we knew that the draw rigging was going to do that.

It's just that many of Novak's haters want him to go through Medvedev quarters, Sinner semis and Alcaraz final, and anything less than that, and it's luckovic strikes again, when he literally gave them all a free shot to push him out of the 2nd ranked position.
It shows they still fear him. If they want him to get the toughest route possible this just confirms how high they rate him. I thought they were telling us he’s 37 and washed up? They need to make their minds up as they giving out confusing signals! Haha
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Alcaraz had no excuse. Lol. Djokovic has been on vacation and partying away.

Raz didn't play Canada, he took a few days off, said he was fresh and ready to go, was practising just fine....he a got 37 year old who he never lost to before, and who is way past his best, and he messed up that tie break and then lost his cool, plus the match. That is all on him.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Raz didn't play Canada, he took a few days off, said he was fresh and ready to go, was practising just fine....he a got 37 year old who he never lost to before, and who is way past his best, and he messed up that tie break and then lost his cool, plus the match. That is all on him.
He played a horrendous match and Monfils didn't even have to do anything special. Totally on Alcaraz for screwing it up and and missing out on the #2 seed. Even so, and if it would be Sinner and Djokovic on one half, he still would get Zverev who isn't a great matchup for him on this surface.
 
He played a horrendous match and Monfils didn't even have to do anything special. Totally on Alcaraz for screwing it up and and missing out on the #2 seed. Even so, and if it would be Sinner and Djokovic on one half, he still would get Zverev who isn't a great matchup for him on this surface.
I agree. To be honest alcaraz isn’t damaged much really. His route to semis is good and who knows what mindset sinner will be in here. Meddy been inconsistent but he could come good. Alcaraz will like his chances though with his draw of making the final at least and then winning it,
 

Phenomenal

Hall of Fame
I agree that overall draw is quite balanced outside of what Sinner got, but we knew that the draw rigging was going to do that.

It's just that many of Novak's haters want him to go through Medvedev quarters, Sinner semis and Alcaraz final, and anything less than that, and it's luckovic strikes again, when he literally gave them all a free shot to push him out of the 2nd ranked position.
It's incredible how you fans manipulate and act all this as normal. I only want Alcaraz and Sinner in other halfs for ONCE. For 3 slams in a row Sinner and Alcaraz is in same half.
Sinner got 2 of them as WN1.

Many other things i could adress but you all need to take off your glasses. You also act like it didn't boost Djokovic's chances immensely.

Talking in general had Nadal got 3 draw in a row like this forum wouldn't exist today lol. Or many wouldn't handle. It's just so normal to adress the draw and you play the victim.
 
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