2024 US OPEN draw is out! Medvedev has Sinner, Alcaraz and Djoko on his path!

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
I agree. To be honest alcaraz isn’t damaged much really. His route to semis is good and who knows what mindset sinner will be in here. Meddy been inconsistent but he could come good. Alcaraz will like his chances though with his draw of making the final at least and then winning it,
His route to the semis is great. Korda and injured Hurkacz who probably won't make it anyway? Not a bad route to a Slam SF on hardcourt. Sinner will be under pressure with all this scrutiny. He's never dealt with something like this and this will be difficult mentally. Perfect chance for Alcaraz to make the final.
 
His route to the semis is great. Korda and injured Hurkacz who probably won't make it anyway? Not a bad route to a Slam SF on hardcourt. Sinner will be under pressure with all this scrutiny. He's never dealt with something like this and this will be difficult mentally. Perfect chance for Alcaraz to make the final.
I totally agree. A great chance for raz to have a 3 slam season.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
He played a horrendous match and Monfils didn't even have to do anything special. Totally on Alcaraz for screwing it up and and missing out on the #2 seed. Even so, and if it would be Sinner and Djokovic on one half, he still would get Zverev who isn't a great matchup for him on this surface.

By his own admission, he played the worst match of his career, but lets attack Djokovic for that loss.

Because this was clearly him after Alcaraz was beaten by Monfils that day.

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NoleFam

Bionic Poster
By his own admission, he played the worst match of his career, but lets attack Djokovic for that loss.

Because this was clearly him after Alcaraz was beaten by Monfils that day.

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And his immense luck. Lol, I'm sure he had already prepared himself for the #3 seed and was shocked at that result.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
It's incredible how you fans manipulate and act all this as normal. I only want Alcaraz and Sinner in other halfs for ONCE. For 3 slams in a row Sinner and Alcaraz is in same half.
Sinner got 2 of them as WN1.

Many other things i could adress but you all need to take off your glasses. You also act like it didn't boost Djokovic's chances immensely.

Talking in general had Nadal got 3 draw in a row like this forum wouldn't exist today lol. Or many wouldn't handle. It's just so normal to adress the draw and you play the victim.

For Once? LOL - It happened at AO this year only. Lets not act like it never happened before. Before that it happened at Wimbledon 2023 and RG 2023.

This was completely on Alcaraz, all he had to do was win 2 matches, that is it, and he would take his destiny into his own hands.

It is hilarious to see the complaining that Djokovic lucked out, when he literally sat back and gave them all an open shot at his ranking. It's not his fault.

USTA want to make money and get ratings, and Djokovic and Alcaraz were always going to be in opposite halves so they get that final, meaning had Raz done his bit, they would have swapped draws. This should not be hard to see, maybe you and others need to take your glasses off instead and see the forest from the trees. They want Djokovic v Alcaraz slam final, especially after the buzz of Paris, so if Raz just won two matches like he should have, you guys would have got your wish.
 

Midaso240

Legend
Zverev was at his peak back then, he is still good, but he is not THAT good as he was in 2021 USO.

It will be a very tough match though and one Djokovic cannot underestimate.
He's a much tougher out in slams now I think, for a long time he hadn't beaten a top 10 player in a slam. Now, he has scalps like Sinner and Alcaraz in the last 12 months
 

Pheasant

Legend
Djoker doesn’t have it as easy as people people think with Zverev in the semis. The semi of Zverev vs Djoker at the 2021 USO was a killer match. Zverev is back to his peak level now; if not even better. He needed 18 months to recover from that nasty ankle injury. And he put in the work to do it. He’s also solved his 2nd service yips. He’s no longer going on a streak of having 5-6 matches in a row where he averages 7-9 double faults a match. Now granted, had Carlos not screwed up and simply gotten to the QF of Cinci, then Djoker as a #3 seed would have a much tougher draw. But that is 100% on Carlos.

If I were a Djoker fan, I’d be a worried about facing Zverev anytime before the final. Djoker will need to step up big to take down Zverev. And he’s capable of doing it. But a 6 foot 6 bomb-server that is often capable of getting 75% of his first serves in is very dangerous. If they meet, I’d still take Djoker in 5. Djoker will be hyper-aggressive with his forehand to eke out the well-deserved win.
 

Phenomenal

Hall of Fame
By his own admission, he played the worst match of his career, but lets attack Djokovic for that loss.

Because this was clearly him after Alcaraz was beaten by Monfils that day.

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Let's not say 1 single word to USO but punish Alcaraz who can't lose a single match. Why they are not fair or is this all random?
What did Djokovic do this year? On HC? Djokovic not playing Cincy Canada doesn't mean he doesn't care or don't welcome draw lol.
It was tough long period in short time + OG.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
And his immense luck. Lol, I'm sure he had already prepared himself for the #3 seed and was shocked at that result.

I think he was ready to be even number 4 had Zverev won a few more matches also. Two players had a chance to put Djokovic into Sinner's half, both failed, but lets complain about Djokovic and his easy draws....
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
I think he was ready to be even number 4 had Zverev won a few more matches also. Two players had a chance to put Djokovic into Sinner's half, both failed, but lets complain about Djokovic and his easy draws....
Yea true as well. All Alcaraz had to do was win 2 matches though, lol. He dropped the ball.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Let's not say 1 single word to USO but punish Alcaraz who can't lose a single match. Why they are not fair or is this all random?
What did Djokovic do this year? On HC? Djokovic not playing Cincy Canada doesn't mean he doesn't care or don't welcome draw lol.
It was tough long period in short time + OG.

Because draws are always fixed my friend, tennis is still a business and they have landed on a gold mine with Djokovic vs Alcaraz - THIS is the match everyone wants as the main event right now, it is the money maker, it brings in ratings, and the USTA want it.

Djokovic of course isn't any idiot, if Alcaraz wants to gift wrap him the number two seeding, he will take it, as would anyone else....what do you think Djokovic should say

- Hold on Alcaraz, thanks, but I can't accept, because a couple of posters on TTW will be upset that I won't face Sinner before the final, you can have it.

LOL
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
He's a much tougher out in slams now I think, for a long time he hadn't beaten a top 10 player in a slam. Now, he has scalps like Sinner and Alcaraz in the last 12 months

Zed should not be underestimated, by of course many don't see that, they just don't accept a draw unless Djokovic gets Medvedev, Sinner and Alcaraz in succession, because they are the last thee to beat him in slams.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Yea, still ended up with a good draw unlike Sinner.

He also gets to watch Sinner very likely take on Tsitsipas or Medvedev, both who are tough matches for him, before they play in the semis. So, Alcaraz has a decent draw here.

And the guy who beat him in a HC slam this year, Zverev, is on the other side of the draw....
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
He also gets to watch Sinner very likely take on Tsitsipas or Medvedev, both who are tough matches for him, before they play in the semis. So, Alcaraz has a decent draw here.

And the guy who beat him in a HC slam this year, Zverev, is on the other side of the draw....
Yea he probably would prefer it to this way tbh.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
I think Zverev can be the party pooper, he took Djokovic to 5 years ago at the USO when Djokovic was playing better than now and Zverev was worse
2021 was Zverev's career best season before this year.

Not sure how much better Djokovic was playing at that USO compared to now. He was vulnerable, but Zverev at his peak still couldn't beat him.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Alcaraz doesn't need to win every match and he can't, already got 2 slams. Would Djokovic reach Wimbledon F and defend his points had he got Sinner's draw? He was little ahead in rankings just because Carlos couldn't defend his points in Queens.

Berrettini Medvedev then Alcaraz in SF? Likely would have lost to Alcaraz if not earlier. Not this one why in 4 of the last 5 slams Djokovic is in opposite half of both Sinner and Alcaraz and 3 in a row now.

For making money maybe but it was not the case in many examples.
This means ****

2 slams big deal

He sucked since Cincinnati ended last year and he is paying for it.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Dream draw? He has the toughest first 4 rounds out of any Top 8 seed

2R Djere: took Djokovic to 5 here last year
3R Popyrin: Canada champion
4R Tiafoe/Shelton: Cincy finalist or guy who serves 140+

I like Djere, but he's not had the best year in 2024. Might struggle with Struff (who has never given Djokovic much trouble).

Popyrin could be interesting.
 

Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
Aus open is too far away .... everybody will be fresh by that time .... no guarantee how much Novak will decline in the off season while the young players get better.

This Slam is a must win.... just hope he is full fit and everybody else collapses ... especially Alcaraz.

As @Rafa4LifeEver said in the other thread of his

Alcaraz can Outmuscle + Outlast + Outclutch all at the same time.. the only guy who is a big threat.
Sinner can Outmuscle but cannot Outlast and damn right Novak will Outclutch him too.
Med can Outlast but cannot Outmuscle and damn right Novak will Outclutch him too.
Zverev can Outlast+Outmuscle but Mentally he is a weak man.

Everybody else is a pu$$y,

So Djokovic need to really make this opportunity count. Don't trust the next AO, many variables will be in play by then.
In BO5, barring a freak injury (God forbid), the only player capable of taking Djokovic out at this stage is Alcaraz, who is not in a good form at all.

As for what I said, here's the quoted post. Show some appreciation there xD.

He's the top favourite because he's been the most consistent player in BO5 HC tournaments for a long time, and after the OG triumph, he'd be in a savage mood. So its highly likely that he'd win the title.

As for why I'm taking him over the field, here's my 2 pennies -

Alcaraz is the only guy who can outmuscle & outlast him in these physically draining humid conditions, both from the body & mind alike. But he is in terrible form and won't even reach SF/F for a potential DjokoRaz clash.

Sinner can outmuscle him, but can't outlast him due to fragile fitness, so Novak would outlast him instead.

Medvedev can outlast him but can't outmuscle him, so Djokovic would just destroy him like last year despite not playing at full capacity.

Zverev can outmuscle and outlast him, but his mind will go into breakdown mode on every important point, so Djokovic would outclutch him.

Tsitsipas, FAA, Ruud and Musetti are completely gonna get their backhand and ROS destroyed.

Rune can cause him problems but eventually Djokovic would outlast him as the Dane is prone to tiring after 2 hours or so do, and sucks badly in outdoor HC tournaments.

Apart from the listed ones, I don't see anyone from the outside or inside the top20 challenging Novak in BO5 on a fast-ish HC, given that he is in a decent form currently.

Barring a freak injury or Alcaraz's form jumping up by a couple of notches, Djokovic is the realistic favourite for the USO.
 
Especially if Sinner brings his Sinner* on steroids form from earlier this year
:D
Those guys have a 0.000001% chance of beating a fit Djokovic. Alcaraz, Sinner, Medvedev and Zverev are the only threats, and 3/4 are stacked in one half. Zverev is the weakest of the bunch too, with 0 slam wins over Djokovic.
There is a 50% chance Medvedev lands opposite half to Novak and another 50% chance he draws Zverev instead of Alcaraz. So 25% combined chance he gets this exact draw is not insignificant.

Now if Raz made it to #2 before the USO, Novak would for sure have to face Sinner and Raz in a row to win this.
Zverev was at his peak back then, he is still good, but he is not THAT good as he was in 2021 USO.
Djoko was pretty shaky in 2021 both times he faced Zverev and that was about as well as Zverev has ever played in a HC Slam (bar his AO 24 QF win) and he still lost.

If Novak isn't capable of playing above his AO 21 QF or USO 21 SF level, then he isn't winning this USO.
 

N01E

Hall of Fame
Is this a JOKE?? Not too much interested but come on this is beyond ridiculous. LOL. Will Djokovic ever get Alcaraz/Sinner in his half? Sinner Alcaraz should be on opposite for once as best players of the season.

Sinner Alcaraz is in their primes and could produce great memorable matches. This even takes that. Final will be a lot more memorable than SF.
I'm losing words tbh even if it is totaly random i would deliberately place Alcaraz Sinner different half.

With insane luck Djokovic keep staying at No2 with little points ahead against Alcaraz who won 2 slam. Yeah Djokovic only had OG whole year though that doesn't give points.
The irony of saying this now, when we know that ATP and Sinner's lawyers are the only reason Djokovic isn't #1. Blame the other players for not being able to step up and hold more than 3 big titles or even 7.5k points. If all those "great runs" of the last 12 months still can't beat Novak's 3 months then how good were they in the first place?
 
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