2024 US Open Men’s Singles

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Ronaldo said:
Shoulda saw Phil,
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I did. :)
 
robyrolfo said:
Wait, is that second line about Alcaraz? Because you realize humor is wildly subjective, and while some people interpret arrogance as confidence (and vice versa), Alcaraz fits that description very well.
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No.
Humour tends to be cultural.
Where are you from?
Not sure that sticking the middle finger during a trophy ceremony would be classed as funny, no matter the culture tbh. Tiafoe is a classless goon and I don’t like him which is my prerogative
 
Rattie said:
No.
Humour tends to be cultural.
Where are you from?
Not sure that sticking the middle finger during a trophy ceremony would be classed as funny, no matter the culture tbh. Tiafoe is a classless goon and I don’t like him which is my prerogative
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Um, humor is still subjective within a culture. Just because you don't get the concept, doesn't make it invalid. There seem to be many things you don't get.

And sure, Tiafoe's middle finger was a faux pas. He does get a little carried away sometimes. But that's actually part of the charm. He didn't grow up playing in a country club. (Well, maybe he did, but not as a member). He doesn't come from a sophisticated background, and being thrown onto the tour at a young age didn't seem to help ground him at all. He's human and he's vulnerable. Again, if you can't see that, that's on you.

If your preference is for a "mamma's boy" from a podunk corner of Spain, who had his family keeping him cozy, alongside a father figure like coach, from a young age, that's fine. But the goofy, false humility act doesn't fool everyone either.
 
robyrolfo said:
Um, humor is still subjective within a culture. Just because you don't get the concept, doesn't make it invalid. There seem to be many things you don't get.

And sure, Tiafoe's middle finger was a faux pas. He does get a little carried away sometimes. But that's actually part of the charm. He didn't grow up playing in a country club. (Well, maybe he did, but not as a member). He doesn't come from a sophisticated background, and being thrown onto the tour at a young age didn't seem to help ground him at all. He's human and he's vulnerable. Again, if you can't see that, that's on you.

If your preference is for a "mamma's boy" from a podunk corner of Spain, who had his family keeping him cozy, alongside a father figure like coach, from a young age, that's fine. But the goofy, false humility act doesn't fool everyone either.
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You stuck for Foe and then slight Alcaraz? Huh.
 
robyrolfo said:
Um, humor is still subjective within a culture. Just because you don't get the concept, doesn't make it invalid. There seem to be many things you don't get.

And sure, Tiafoe's middle finger was a faux pas. He does get a little carried away sometimes. But that's actually part of the charm. He didn't grow up playing in a country club. (Well, maybe he did, but not as a member). He doesn't come from a sophisticated background, and being thrown onto the tour at a young age didn't seem to help ground him at all. He's human and he's vulnerable. Again, if you can't see that, that's on you.

If your preference is for a "mamma's boy" from a podunk corner of Spain, who had his family keeping him cozy, alongside a father figure like coach, from a young age, that's fine. But the goofy, false humility act doesn't fool everyone either.
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Alcaraz does all the fun things Tiafoe does, but doesn't do any of the cringe or disrespectful things that Tiafoe does
 
Aabye5 said:
You stuck for Foe and then slight Alcaraz? Huh.
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Sure did. Tiafoe really gets a disproportionate amount of hate. I get the guy isn't for everyone, but people freaking out about him have their own issues to deal with.

As for Alcaraz, he's attracting all those losers that root for a super strong player/team in order to compensate for their own insecurities. So yeah...

Rosstour said:
Alcaraz does all the fun things Tiafoe does, but doesn't do any of the cringe or disrespectful things that Tiafoe does
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Says who? I find a ton of the Alcaraz schtick to be cringe worthy. The ear cupping. The chest puffing. The talking about his "uevos" (spelling). The faux humility...
 
robyrolfo said:
I was at the Draper vs Rublev match at last year's USO, where Draper got bounced pretty easily by Bweah. Drapper is a big dude, and he often looks pretty slow and lumbering compared to most other players.

So while Draper was hanging in with Rublev during some rallies, and managing to win some points by pulling the trigger on a down the line backhand and things like that, overall Andre was just running and pummeling him into the ground. And we know Sinner is like a superior version of Rublev, so I would expect Draper to get worn out trying to hit with Sinner, and have a harder time trying to go on the offensive off of Sinner's incoming pace.
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Just gonna quote myself here...
 
robyrolfo said:
Sure did. Tiafoe really gets a disproportionate amount of hate. I get the guy isn't for everyone, but people freaking out about him have their own issues to deal with.

As for Alcaraz, he's attracting all those losers that root for a super strong player/team in order to compensate for their own insecurities. So yeah...


Says who? I find a ton of the Alcaraz schtick to be cringe worthy. The ear cupping. The chest puffing. The talking about his "uevos" (spelling). The faux humility...
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And Tiafoe doesn't do that stuff? Aside from the false humility, he doesn't do that
 
robyrolfo said:
Um, humor is still subjective within a culture. Just because you don't get the concept, doesn't make it invalid. There seem to be many things you don't get.

And sure, Tiafoe's middle finger was a faux pas. He does get a little carried away sometimes. But that's actually part of the charm. He didn't grow up playing in a country club. (Well, maybe he did, but not as a member). He doesn't come from a sophisticated background, and being thrown onto the tour at a young age didn't seem to help ground him at all. He's human and he's vulnerable. Again, if you can't see that, that's on you.

If your preference is for a "mamma's boy" from a podunk corner of Spain, who had his family keeping him cozy, alongside a father figure like coach, from a young age, that's fine. But the goofy, false humility act doesn't fool everyone either.
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There’s a lot of bitterness in your post. Insulting Alcaraz and indirectly me is your way of defending Frances?

I can see plenty in your response. I’ll leave you to it.
 
JMR said:
Is that the litmus test for greatness now? Only five guys whose careers took place entirely within the Open Era have reached double digits in slam titles. Five male players in 56 years.
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Not greatness. But ATG level for sure. Big 3 have really spoiled us.
Suddenly 20 slams doesn't seem like a big deal.
That said, I don't think anyone gets to that number in the next couple of decades.
 
Rosstour said:
And Tiafoe doesn't do that stuff? Aside from the false humility, he doesn't do that
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Yes, that's my point. Tiafoe and Alcaraz do similar things, and yet you get 10X as many people complaining about Tiafoe. Why is that?

Rattie said:
There’s a lot of bitterness in your post. Insulting Alcaraz and indirectly me is your way of defending Frances?
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Ha, wow, you really aren't good at interpreting text and/or actions. Bitterness? Huh? I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy (or something else). Why would that make me bitter?

You are clearly still upset that your golden child got humiliated by Botic VDV (I can't even spell his name), while Francis was in the semi finals, winning over thousands of fans in the process.
 
As for the final, I'll just make this observation:

At one point Fritz and Tiafoe got into a 31 shot rally (with Fritz winning the point). They were both completely exhausted, and acting like they had played the most difficult point in their entire careers. The hitting was fairly hard, but not that huge, and there were a few slices thrown in.

And the thing is, Sinner and Medvedev had at least 4-5 rallies like that in the first set alone, where they were hitting even harder! So really, Fritz's only hope is that Sinner is really tight, injured, or both.
 
robyrolfo said:
Yes, that's my point. Tiafoe and Alcaraz do similar things, and yet you get 10X as many people complaining about Tiafoe. Why is that?


Ha, wow, you really aren't good at interpreting text and/or actions. Bitterness? Huh? I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy (or something else). Why would that make me bitter?

You are clearly still upset that your golden child got humiliated by Botic VDV (I can't even spell his name), while Francis was in the semi finals, winning over thousands of fans in the process.
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Oh for goodness sake, I’ve never liked Tiafoe and said so before this tournament. It’s got nothing to do with Alcaraz; you were the one who brought him into it.
I don’t have to like who you want me to like, nor do my reasons have to follow your rules.
People are so childish in here. Don’t bother replying, I won’t be reading it.
 
robyrolfo said:
Sure did. Tiafoe really gets a disproportionate amount of hate. I get the guy isn't for everyone, but people freaking out about him have their own issues to deal with.

As for Alcaraz, he's attracting all those losers that root for a super strong player/team in order to compensate for their own insecurities. So yeah...


Says who? I find a ton of the Alcaraz schtick to be cringe worthy. The ear cupping. The chest puffing. The talking about his "uevos" (spelling). The faux humility...
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Don’t forget the ear cupping..I thought Novak was called cringe for that lol
 
Nice win for Sinner. Basically never got out of 3rd or 4th gear all tournament, but it was enough.

The final was the representative of his entire run. Keep a nice, constantly high level, with the occasional small dip, but nothing overly dramatic. On these hard courts, 3rd gear is enough, and don't reach for the big stuff unless you really need it... and he never needed it.

robyrolfo said:
As for the final, I'll just make this observation:
At one point Fritz and Tiafoe got into a 31 shot rally (with Fritz winning the point). They were both completely exhausted, and acting like they had played the most difficult point in their entire careers. The hitting was fairly hard, but not that huge, and there were a few slices thrown in.
And the thing is, Sinner and Medvedev had at least 4-5 rallies like that in the first set alone, where they were hitting even harder! So really, Fritz's only hope is that Sinner is really tight, injured, or both.
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As expected.

Rattie said:
Oh for goodness sake, I’ve never liked Tiafoe and said so before this tournament. It’s got nothing to do with Alcaraz; you were the one who brought him into it.
I don’t have to like who you want me to like, nor do my reasons have to follow your rules.
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Your reasons don't have to follow my rules, they simple need to follow the rules of logic. No?

I mention Alcaraz because you like the guy. So when you criticize Tiafoe for certain behavior, it only makes logical sense for me to point out that you enjoy the exact same behavior in a different player. And it is only LOGICAL for me to wonder why? Got it now?

Pass750 said:
3 games, 3 times they have shown Taylor Swift, 3 times too many, hopefully that is it.
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Yes, thank you, beyond annoying. My wife heard me yelling in the other room, and she asked what happened in the match. I said, 'nothing crazy, but I might break the TV if they put that moron on the screen another time.'

Seriously, the whole celebrity spotting thing is getting out of hand, and it will only get worse as others notice the phenomenon and decide they want in on it. Perhaps the worst part is when they show these celebrity losers and half of them aren't even paying attention to the match.
 
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