2024 US Open QF: [1] Jannik Sinner vs [5] Daniil Medvedev

[nolefam_2024]

I LOVE Medvedev press conferences. Always enjoy listening to him!

Yes he is most straight forward person in tennis.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Well done to Sinner. He is surely the heavy favourite for the title now, if he wasn't before. Of course, this can add extra pressure, but he has shown that he can handle it.

 

[MiamiWeekendWarrior]

Well done to Sinner. He is surely the heavy favourite for the title now, if he wasn't before. Of course, this can add extra pressure, but he has shown that he can handle it.

If he plays like he did for this match he will not get past the next one.

 

[Winners or Errors]

A British teen pop star

...with a sometimes very interesting game to watch. It'd be nice for him to make the semifinal competitive. Prior to "the incident," I had hoped he'd be a frequent fixture at the end of tournaments.

 

[manley0702]

I already said big 3 and Murray reached there. No one else in last 30 years did

Yeah. That's not all that special though. In the last 30 years, 10 different players have ended the year at world number 1. 4 of the 10 have reached 12,000 points, and 3 out of those 4 have reached it multiple times.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Yeah. That's not all that special though. In the last 30 years, 10 different players have ended the year at world number 1. 4 of the 10 have reached 12,000 points, and 3 out of those 4 have reached it multiple times.

It is special

Meddy can't do it. You said he and sinner are fairly similar which is where I brought this pt. Meddy is great player but he is not sinner level now.

 

[Nostradamus]

Hmmm good question. It's almost as if we should devise a point system where bigger tournaments are worth more than the smaller ones, and players get more points the farther they get into each tournament.

No,,, nobody cares about the smaller tournaments, Slams are where real #1 is determined... Wimbledon and French open is more prestigeous than that aussie open and US open so ,,, Clearly Alcarez is #1 in the world in 2024

 

[Nostradamus]

Sinner with 6 titles to Alcaraz' 3.

yea but Sinner is tainted with that topical PED. so clearly Alcarez is #1...........in the world in 2024. No debating this. Nadal and Federer agree on this.

 

[speedysteve]

No,,, nobody cares about the smaller tournaments, Slams are where real #1 is determined... Wimbledon and French open is more prestigeous than that aussie open and US open so ,,, Clearly Alcarez is #1 in the world in 2024

Yes, yes, but as soon as ageing top dogs stop attending the 1000s and 500s regularly, they are in decline and soon done for.
Young guns play all they can..

 

[manley0702]

It is special

Meddy can't do it. You said he and sinner are fairly similar which is where I brought this pt. Meddy is great player but he is not sinner level now.

Depends on your definition of "special". Something that's happened, on average, every other year for the last twenty years, isn't that special to me, but to each his own.
I never said Medvedev is as good as Sinner. I stated, in this thread, that I think Sinner is 60/40 to beat Medvedev. All I said is that their levels are very close, which they are. When they play, the match can go either way, with Sinner having a slight edge. I assure you Medvedev will beat Sinner multiple more times throughout their career.

 

[Aabye5]

Dr. Robotnik can't believe his defeat at the hands of Sonic Jannik:

 

[robyrolfo]

If he plays like he did for this match he will not get past the next one.

Who, Sinner? He played really well. The level in this match was extremely high.

 

[Rafa.the.Magnificent]

...with a sometimes very interesting game to watch. It'd be nice for him to make the semifinal competitive. Prior to "the incident," I had hoped he'd be a frequent fixture at the end of tournaments.

The incident? If you feel like pointing me in the right direction, somehow I know basically zero about Draper.

 

[THUNDERVOLLEY]

No,,, nobody cares about the smaller tournaments, Slams are where real #1 is determined... Wimbledon and French open is more prestigeous than that aussie open and US open so ,,, Clearly Alcarez is #1 in the world in 2024

The French is valuable as a major, but hardly more prestigious than the US Open.

 

[McGradey]

Who, Sinner? He played really well. The level in this match was extremely high.

It was an erratic level, rarely extremely high from either guy as I saw it. Some great points and a lot of ok ones.

 

[Winners or Errors]

The incident? If you feel like pointing me in the right direction, somehow I know basically zero about Draper.

Some poor sportsmanship playing FAA earlier this summer.

 

[MiamiWeekendWarrior]

Who, Sinner? He played really well. The level in this match was extremely high.

The score says otherwise. It was a race to see who could make the most unforced errors.

 

[Vincent-C]

The score says otherwise. It was a race to see who could make the most unforced errors.

Good job from Sinner, against a formidable opponent. Peaking for the QFs might not be the best strategy.

 

[Tallawah Tennis]

I think Sinner has played a fine match, but his level right now (and really all tournament) has not approached what he produced in Miami and early on during IW. Medvedev, besides the second set, has played way below his norm

Man, Jannik hasn't required that level to get to the SF, why should he give it/waste energy? Sense he can bring a better level if needed, were examples in this match. if so, he won't be denied this title.
Daniil's implosions, inexplicable, has to get a grip if he wants to beat the best. He showed his potential in the 2nd, but seems he emptied his tank doing so. That is the difference - Jannik lapsing but not left empty,able to call up sufficient to get through. Daniil running on fumes for the last 2, to the extent he could not take his chances when Jannik had lapses of focus.

It was an erratic level, rarely extremely high from either guy as I saw it. Some great points and a lot of ok ones.

True man. Need to win these matches as well as those when playing the best. There should be a mathematical equation to show this element of a great player. I am no mathematician, but here goes:

Great player = 'A' level if needed + getting through playing 'B'/'C' level + getting that last point needed before the other player in a close match ( getting lucky).

 

[nolefam_2024]

He's currently sitting at about 7,400 points for this year. If he got 12,000 by the end of year, then yes, that would be incredible, but he's not on pace to do that. So saying he's much better than Medvedev based on something that could theoretically happen, but is unlikely, isn't a good way of measuring their levels. Bringing up that it hasn't been done very often in "30 years" is extremely misleading. The ATP only changed the point system to make 12,000 points possible in 2009; it was literally impossible to get 12,000 points, even with a perfect season, before then.

10330 pts now. 400 removed from indian wells due to doping scandle.

2500 pts left on the table. The race is on.

 

[Net Beast]

10330 pts now. 400 removed from indian wells due to doping scandle.

2500 pts left on the table. The race is on.

How many points will he have if WADA manage to defend their case and get him banned? Would they remove any points with retroactive effect?

 

[jayvee]

How many points will he have if WADA manage to defend their case and get him banned? Would they remove any points with retroactive effect?

No.

 

[nolefam_2024]

How many points will he have if WADA manage to defend their case and get him banned? Would they remove any points with retroactive effect?

I don't think wada will be successful now.

Sinner is so far ahead of the field that CAS has to sweep this under the rug.

 

[nolefam_2024]

He's currently sitting at about 7,400 points for this year. If he got 12,000 by the end of year, then yes, that would be incredible, but he's not on pace to do that. So saying he's much better than Medvedev based on something that could theoretically happen, but is unlikely, isn't a good way of measuring their levels. Bringing up that it hasn't been done very often in "30 years" is extremely misleading. The ATP only changed the point system to make 12,000 points possible in 2009; it was literally impossible to get 12,000 points, even with a perfect season, before then.

How on pace is sinner now?

He is just 1 set away from winning ATP finals. That would mean 11830 pts. Plus 400 pts are already deducted from his IW semis.

We just have to face it meddy stock is very down and it was way down even in usopen before their qf. While sinner was dominating then and dominating now.

 

[DSH]

Med in 3.

No.