2024 Wimbledon Championships - General Discussion for Men's Singles

Who wins?


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BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Not dropping out before a draw is contentious. As he isn’t ranked, does it really matter in the way it would for a top seed? Agree or disagree with Andy here?
I was angry with Murray when he dropped out of the 2017 USO when he was the #1 seeded player and that put Rafa and Fed in the same half. That late decision was sinful but it ultimately didn't matter since Roger was injured and lost to Del Po.

Now it doesn't matter when or if Andy withdraws, he's unseeded as you say. It won't make any difference. I say let him play if he wishes, he's earned the right to do whatever he wants as a former Wimbledon champion.
 

Humble Crumble

Semi-Pro
McEnroe and Chris Evert both have picked Alcaraz to defend his title with Sinner coming in (barely) behind him in their view.

When asked about their predictions yesterday:

Mac: "I would still say in my view, Alcaraz is the guy who will win Wimbledon, but I think Sinner’s just right there just behind him... Alcaraz has the better volleys and more variety so I put him as the favorite. I don't believe Djokovic will be a factor, I stand by my prediction at the beginning of the year he will not win a major this year."

Evert: "Yeah, I think you’re right on the money. I think grass is so suited to Alcaraz’s game because he can improvise, be flexible, and show the variety in his game.

I think that Sinner is great but still has to work out the kinks in his grass game. I couldn’t believe how hard he was hitting the ball at the French Open. He pops that ball, and has power. He’s really improved his movement in and out of the corners, the way he was sliding on the clay in and out of the corners. He’s working on his all-court game, but he's still behind Carlos in that area.

I still think there’s not the finesse with Sinner, there’s not as much confidence because Carlos just beat him at the French Open. Alcaraz won the French Open and he won Wimbledon last year. I mean, Sinner’s got to have that in the back of his head."

Mac is a personal fan of Alcaraz and there's no shame in that. However, if we're talking about variety...

Sinner has been sliding, diving, volleying, drop-shotting, and serving his way out of every situation in his warm-up tournament. Just saying, John.

And we all know why he said Sinner was "just behind him" - he doesn't want to look a fool when Sinner takes it.
 
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Rattie

Legend
i can’t wait for these deluded legends to be silenced by Sinner when Sinner rips Carlos’s pathetic serve apart
They aren’t the only broadcasters/pundits with the opinion that Alcaraz is the slight favourite. Is everyone deluded because they don’t see it your way?

Jannik is world #1, he leads the race this year and has four titles already including a recent one on grass so yes, it would be no surprise if he wins WB. However, the facts remain that Alcaraz has defeated this tour beating Sinner, not once but twice this year, even with his ‘pathetic’ serve. Alcaraz also just won RG and has won WB before…Sinner has not. He has 3 slams to Sinner’s 1 despite being the younger.

No one is deluded here. It’s a close call, that’s all.
 

Humble Crumble

Semi-Pro
They aren’t the only broadcasters/pundits with the opinion that Alcaraz is the slight favourite. Is everyone deluded because they don’t see it your way?

Jannik is world #1, he leads the race this year and has four titles already including a recent one on grass so yes, it would be no surprise if he wins WB. However, the facts remain that Alcaraz has defeated this tour beating Sinner, not once but twice this year, even with his ‘pathetic’ serve. Alcaraz also just won RG and has won WB before…Sinner has not. He has 3 slams to Sinner’s 1 despite being the younger.

No one is deluded here. It’s a close call, that’s all.

Everybody has a bias.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Mac loves Carlitos. I love Andre's expression when Mac pontificates. No way does Carlos have better volleys than Roger though, sheesh.


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Deleted member 810491

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It's pretty simple - if the draw is like French Open and Sinner/Alcaraz are in the same half - Novak wins Wimbledon.
Can't imagine Sleepy Novak Djokovic winning 7 matches in a row...
 

Rattie

Legend
As usual, I will publish the survey after the draw ceremony, which will take place on Friday at 10 am London time. By then, it should be clear whether Djokovic, the 7-time champion, will participate in this year's Wimbledon.


Edit: By connection @Rattie's thread into my thread, the poll started by @Rattie went under my OP. So the poll is created, but I will extend the voting deadline until July 6.
You couldn’t take out those big pictures at the top could you? It’s just a bit of a pain to scroll past them every time when looking for info on the draw etc.
 

Humble Crumble

Semi-Pro
I subscribe to the school of thought that the tougher the draw, the better form the player will be in if he can get through the first week.

I hated Sinner’s easy cake draw last year because he entered the SF against Djokovic with no clear test of his grass court pedigree. But this is the new Sinner, and he just won his first grass title at Halle. Berrettini on form will be extremely tough, but I think Sinner can make it.
 

Alcawrath

Professional
I hope Djokovic is healthy and makes a deep run. If he doesn't it's going to a bad final with the real action happening in the top half semi final.
 
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Deleted member 810491

Guest
Never gave to much hype to the draw. It can collapse as happens most of the times. What counts is the player consistency. We can get a juicy R2 Sinn Berr snd a juicier R4 Djoko Rune.
A collapse is almost certain in Djokovic's half, given that he's nowhere near an elite player this year... and now he's coming off a surgery.
De Minaur vs. Alcaraz Final.

I subscribe to the school of thought that the tougher the draw, the better form the player will be in if he can get through the first week.

I hated Sinner’s easy cake draw last year because he entered the SF against Djokovic with no clear test of his grass court pedigree. But this is the new Sinner, and he just won his first grass title at Halle. Berrettini on form will be extremely tough, but I think Sinner can make it.
The new Sinner is 0-2 vs. Alcaraz in 2024, and now wasted his energy on Halle...
So impressive!
 

albertobra

Hall of Fame
A collapse is almost certain in Djokovic's half, given that he's nowhere near an elite player this year... and now he's coming off a surgery.
De Minaur vs. Alcaraz Final.


The new Sinner is 0-2 vs. Alcaraz in 2024, and now wasted his energy on Halle...
So impressive!
Never count out Djoko. Never. The goods of '24 season might begin here.
 

TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru
Great draw for alcaraz. Good draw for Djokovic. Tougher one for Sinner. I think alcaraz has good chances to defend his title here.
It's the other way round. Great draw for Novak. No good grasscourt players until the final. The easiest draw.
Good draw for Carlos. Easy picking until the SF.
Tough draw for Sinner.

Overall, Sinner is the big loser and Novak is the big winner with the draw. Alcaraz is somewhere in the middle, but he needs to win more and get to #2 so he can avoid facing Sinner in the SF.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
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Defending champion: Carlos Alcaraz
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Official website: Link to draw: Edition: 137th (56th in the Open era)
Date: 1 – 14 July 2024
Category: Grand Slam
Number of players in main draw: 128S
Total prize money: £50,000,000 ($63,4 million)
Prize money distribution: Surface: Grass
Location: Church Road, Wimbledon, London, United Kingdom
Venue and governing body: All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club
TV broadcast: ATP entry list:
do they have good food at the restarurants ??
 

Rattie

Legend
It's the other way round. Great draw for Novak. No good grasscourt players until the final. The easiest draw.
Good draw for Carlos. Easy picking until the SF.
Tough draw for Sinner.

Overall, Sinner is the big loser and Novak is the big winner with the draw. Alcaraz is somewhere in the middle, but he needs to win more and get to #2 so he can avoid facing Sinner in the SF.
That’s not the case. Hurkacz is a threat in the quarters.
Djokovic has a tender knee, poor form (for him) in 2024, a compression sleeve on his right arm that necessitates having frequent massages in practice, and a lack of match practice. Yes he has his usual cupcake draw but he is not a lock to reach the finals by any stretch of the imagination.

It would be nice to have a final without him; he’s been in the last 5 and it’s boring now - from my point of view of course. However, it would be no surprise to see him there. Let’s see. It would also be no surprise to see him falter early, even with his cushy draw. Opponents are going to feel a wounded Djokovic is a prime target.
 

Zardoz7/12

Hall of Fame
Djokovic's 2024 has been terrible by his lofty standards.

He has physical and motivational issues, I would be surprised if he wins Wimbledon.
 

D-Lite

Hall of Fame
I'd love know the average round that players who win a title the week before a GS make it to.

I'm just watching B. Harris v Purcell in Eastbourne. As much as I'm supporting Harris in his first ATP SF, it does make me wonder if having the weekend to solely prepare at Wimbledon would benefit him over continuing further in this tournament. Munar awaits in R1 and a potential R2 against ADM. A R2 showing would be great for him based on ranking. ADM is likely way too clutch nowadays to lose to a main tour novice such as Billy Harris.
 

NYTennisfan

Hall of Fame
Sinner has a gauntlet draw compared to Alcaraz, potential Berrettini on grass with him in better form is as tough as it gets for a 2nd round for a top player. Should be interesting to see how it plays out
 

NYTennisfan

Hall of Fame
That’s not the case. Hurkacz is a threat in the quarters.
Djokovic has a tender knee, poor form (for him) in 2024, a compression sleeve on his right arm that necessitates having frequent massages in practice, and a lack of match practice. Yes he has his usual cupcake draw but he is not a lock to reach the finals by any stretch of the imagination.

It would be nice to have a final without him; he’s been in the last 5 and it’s boring now - from my point of view of course. However, it would be no surprise to see him there. Let’s see. It would also be no surprise to see him falter early, even with his cushy draw. Opponents are going to feel a wounded Djokovic is a prime target.
Yeah, I don't see anything easy whatsoever about potentially playing Hurkacz on grass in a quarter. A worse version of Hubie gave a better version of Djokovic all he could handle last time they matched at Wimbledon.
 

dking68

Legend
You do realise that Carlitos with his pathetic serve didn't face a single break point in the final 2 sets of RG SF & the final set of IW SF, right?
Right and he played a player who was bed ridden for 3 weeks and still needed a fifth set and the losing opponent won more points off his own serve and more total points won. Put him on a favorable fast low bouncing surface, coupled with the added match play from Halle and it will be a straight set/4 set win for Sinner. He will fail to defend his Wimbledon title.
 

Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
Right and he played a player who was bed ridden for 3 weeks and still needed a fifth set and the losing opponent won more points off his own serve and more total points won. Put him on a favorable fast low bouncing surface, coupled with the added match play from Halle and it will be a straight set/4 set win for Sinner. He will fail to defend his Wimbledon title.
Okay, you may choose to stay neuron less & delusional; I have no obligation to 'convert' you per se.
 

Rattie

Legend
Right and he played a player who was bed ridden for 3 weeks and still needed a fifth set and the losing opponent won more points off his own serve and more total points won. Put him on a favorable fast low bouncing surface, coupled with the added match play from Halle and it will be a straight set/4 set win for Sinner. He will fail to defend his Wimbledon title.
Bedridden? Have a word with yourself.
 

Humble Crumble

Semi-Pro
Bedridden? Have a word with yourself.

The word is Sinner came down with a flu and didn’t train for 3 weeks before RG. His weight loss was quite visible. Not saying he was “bedridden” but he definitely was knocked by something. Still not an excuse for losing. Carlos deserved the win.
 
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