2024 WTA Dubai 1000

slipgrip93

Professional
Interesting to see this player Tatjana Maria, a 36yo player from germany with a one-handed backhand(!). A lot of bh and fh slices from her too. Svitolina, her opponent just won the first set 6-3. Tatjana had her first WTA250 win at Mallorca in 2018, and won last year and the prior at Bogota. It makes me wonder if Henin somehow came back on tour five years ago at 36. But Tatjana has been on tour continuously since 2002.
 
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marc45

G.O.A.T.
when are they starting Iga and Stephens?...they had a long break

got an appointment, time to DVR likely
 

ScottleeSV

Hall of Fame
On Sabalenka, this is the problem with skipping the first of back to back Masters. If you mess up the one that you do play, suddenly it's a barren wasteland of points for that part of the year. She might barely have a race lead left by Sunday.

I recall she did the same thing last year, missed Abu Dhabi and Doha, didn't do an awful lot in Dubai, and then suddenly a comfortable lead from Australia was all but nullified.
 

volleyandfun

Hall of Fame
I watched only a recap of Sabalenka's match, and after this 2 min I was annoyed for rest of a day. How on Earth people can go and watch her matches? That kind of grunting should be outlawed.
 

robyrolfo

Hall of Fame
Glad to see Muchova on the mend. We need her back on tour, in more ways that one.

Really, really poor sportsmanship from Kalinskaya against Hunter in R1. It's these things that really turn us off certain players.

Kalinskaya should not have accepted the point, she should have replayed it.


I would reply to Ben Rothenberg on twitter, but that doughnut blocked me for pointing out another one of his ridiculous, clueless "takes" on the sport he covers.

So that means you get the pushback, @Aussie Darcy. What's so bad about this? Yes, she could have given her the point back, but I don't really think it is expected. The timing of the let call was a sort of insane coincidence (what are the odds of a let taking place on an adjacent court, the very instant that a serve is going over the net on a trajectory that is rather tight to the net. Gotta be astronomical...) That said, this is the PRO tour, Storm Hunter. You may look like one of the moms from the local tennis club, but at this level they are playing for money and playing for keeps. Sure, the let call from the other court was audible, but she should have seen that her own serve didn't hit the net, and she should also be able to recognize the calls from another court as opposed to her own, and with any doubt in her mind (which should have been there for those two reasons) she should have kept playing.

Hunter can also keep her 'holier than thou' attitude while asking her opponent if she was going to keep the point. It's not her fault it happened, and although she could agree to replay the point, if she was aware of what was going on (that it wasn't a let visually, and that the call came from another court), then why shouldn't she keep it? This is nothing like that incident last year with Sara Sorebes-Tormo (spelling) and her doubles partner lobbying for the other team to get DQ'd, and then laughing about it. That was the type of thing that really turns people off.

Who needs a coach? Maria takes the first at 2.
You kid, but I get the feeling that Maria is such a bird-brain that she might actually be thinking this. Novarro is a good player in decent form, and I'm surprised that Sakkari managed to win, but I can also see how this was a good matchup for Sakkari, considering how Navarro plays.

Anyway, firing her coach isn't a long term solution for Sakkari. Her problem is between her own ears, and that isn't going to change.

Interesting to see this player Tatjana Maria, a 36yo player from germany with a one-handed backhand(!). A lot of bh and fh slices from her too. Svitolina, her opponent just won the first set 6-3. Tatjana had her first WTA250 win at Mallorca in 2018, and won last year and the prior at Bogota. It makes me wonder if Henin somehow came back on tour five years ago at 36. But Tatjana has been on tour continuously since 2002.
No need to wonder: if Henin came back at 36 she would dominate this tour. Seriously. It's bad right now. Forget about the inconsistent performances from the top players, just look at how they play. Last week's final was supposed to be two of the very best in the world right now (Swiatek and Rybakina), and so many points consisted of them immediately getting into rallies where they simply bashed the ball at one another straight down the middle of the court, waiting for the other one to create some sort of angle either intentionally (typically not the case) or through a little bit of mis-timing. Any top player from the past with a little tactical acumen and variety would have tied them in knots. Just look at who was dominating the game before she walked away: Ash Barty. A physically unimposing player with nothing particularly remarkable about her game and no real weapons, other than her ability to use her brain and actually play with variety.

I watched only a recap of Sabalenka's match, and after this 2 min I was annoyed for rest of a day. How on Earth people can go and watch her matches? That kind of grunting should be outlawed.
I find that she is actually LESS annoying when you watch her play a full match. I think you just get used to it at a certain point, and start to tune it out subconsciously.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
So that means you get the pushback, @Aussie Darcy. What's so bad about this? Yes, she could have given her the point back, but I don't really think it is expected. The timing of the let call was a sort of insane coincidence (what are the odds of a let taking place on an adjacent court, the very instant that a serve is going over the net on a trajectory that is rather tight to the net. Gotta be astronomical...) That said, this is the PRO tour, Storm Hunter. You may look like one of the moms from the local tennis club, but at this level they are playing for money and playing for keeps. Sure, the let call from the other court was audible, but she should have seen that her own serve didn't hit the net, and she should also be able to recognize the calls from another court as opposed to her own, and with any doubt in her mind (which should have been there for those two reasons) she should have kept playing.

Hunter can also keep her 'holier than thou' attitude while asking her opponent if she was going to keep the point. It's not her fault it happened, and although she could agree to replay the point, if she was aware of what was going on (that it wasn't a let visually, and that the call came from another court), then why shouldn't she keep it? This is nothing like that incident last year with Sara Sorebes-Tormo (spelling) and her doubles partner lobbying for the other team to get DQ'd, and then laughing about it. That was the type of thing that really turns people off.
This is a REALLY bad take by you. Honestly, are you kidding? It's sportsmanship and the right thing to do. It's tacky and shows you lack respect for the sport and your opponent when you want to win like that and accept a point that so clearly was not hers. It's even worse since she was already up a break. She looks incredibly selfish and she has completely lost my respect. Also your nonsense about "she should have known it was from another court" is frankly a joke. Nobody could tell, i've watched that footage.

Also, Storm Hunter doesn't just look like some mom from the local club, this was the #1 doubles player in the world 2 weeks ago and she is having a fantastic run of late.
 

spystud

Talk Tennis Guru
What time is it? Round of 16 time

[1] Swiatek vs. [15] Svitolina
[3] Gauff vs. Pliskova
[Q] Frech vs. [4] Rybakina
Potapova vs. [6] Zheng
[7] Vondrousova vs. [12] Samsonova
[8] Sakkari vs. Paolini
[9] Ostapenko vs. [Q] Kalinskaya
Cirstea vs. Vekic
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Wimbledon champ Vondrousova wins back to back matches for the first time since the US Open. Yep that’s how bad she’s been.

Beats Samsonova 6-2 6-2 to make the QF.
 

Zodd

Hall of Fame
Interesting to see this player Tatjana Maria, a 36yo player from germany with a one-handed backhand(!). A lot of bh and fh slices from her too. Svitolina, her opponent just won the first set 6-3. Tatjana had her first WTA250 win at Mallorca in 2018, and won last year and the prior at Bogota. It makes me wonder if Henin somehow came back on tour five years ago at 36. But Tatjana has been on tour continuously since 2002.

Had to look Tatjana Maria up as I'd never seen her play before and what a refreshingly different playing style. Slice fest galore (off both wings!), great touch on drop shots and with a somewhat odd/short OHB preparation. Great to see players that don't just bash the ball at all times.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Interesting to see this player Tatjana Maria, a 36yo player from germany with a one-handed backhand(!). A lot of bh and fh slices from her too. Svitolina, her opponent just won the first set 6-3. Tatjana had her first WTA250 win at Mallorca in 2018, and won last year and the prior at Bogota. It makes me wonder if Henin somehow came back on tour five years ago at 36. But Tatjana has been on tour continuously since 2002.
Had to look Tatjana Maria up as I'd never seen her play before and what a refreshingly different playing style. Slice fest galore (off both wings!), great touch on drop shots and with a somewhat odd/short OHB preparation. Great to see players that don't just bash the ball at all times.

T Maria hadn't achieved much on tour but after she had her second child she had a huge comeback where she won Bogota as mentioned in 2022 and then went all the way to the Wimbledon SF with huge wins over #26 Cirstea, #5 Sakkari and #12 Ostapenko. Hasn't done too much since then but that was a huge deal back in 2022.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Sakkari's woes continue and she bows out in straight sets to Paolini.

Gotta give it to Jasmine but, she has really gone under the radar the last 12 months. This is her 3rd top 10 win in the last 6 months, has made 2 finals, QF in Cincy, SF in Zhengzhou, 4R at the Aus Open.

She had already beaten #11 Haddad Maia and Leylah Fernandez this tournament. So that's 3 big wins in succession.
 

Bill Lobsalot

Hall of Fame
Had to look Tatjana Maria up as I'd never seen her play before and what a refreshingly different playing style. Slice fest galore (off both wings!), great touch on drop shots and with a somewhat odd/short OHB preparation. Great to see players that don't just bash the ball at all times.
I enjoy watching her play. She's hit or miss, but a unique playing style. Oldest player in the top 50 at 36.. Seems like a classy lady.
 

coolcamden

Hall of Fame
Svitolina is getting a lot more offensive these last 2 games. Iga said “oh yes?! I see you 1 and raise you 2”
 

robyrolfo

Hall of Fame
Anyone catch Cocciaretto vs Gauff? Gauff was wearing a long sleeve jacket/top, while Cocciaretto was in her regular sleeveless tennis dress and sweating profusely. Such a strange juxtaposition, but I did notice her sweating a lot on other occasions, and she's absolute cute as a button. Played pretty well in the second set, too, and was giving Gauff more than she could handle for a while.

If I was Kalinskaya, I would have offered to replay the point. It's just one point. The goodwill is worth more in the long run.
I don't disagree. Kalinskaya perhaps could have found a way (more on that below) to compensate for it. Would have been the polite and sporting thing to do. I just don't think she should be vilified for it, as if she did something underhanded. She didn't do anything but play the point. An extremely strange coincidence and the umpire did the rest.
everything else.

Player can give a first serve to the opponent for the hindrance.
How so? Seriously question. If the point has been given, how can they revert back to the first serve without taking the point off the board? I genuinely don't know how it works, and I always thought a player could ask the umpire to replay a point.

T Maria hadn't achieved much on tour but after she had her second child she had a huge comeback where she won Bogota as mentioned in 2022 and then went all the way to the Wimbledon SF with huge wins over #26 Cirstea, #5 Sakkari and #12 Ostapenko. Hasn't done too much since then but that was a huge deal back in 2022.
Yet more evidence that the level of play in the WTA isn't particularly high right now.

Sakkari's woes continue and she bows out in straight sets to Paolini.
Gotta give it to Jasmine but, she has really gone under the radar the last 12 months. This is her 3rd top 10 win in the last 6 months, has made 2 finals, QF in Cincy, SF in Zhengzhou, 4R at the Aus Open.
She had already beaten #11 Haddad Maia and Leylah Fernandez this tournament. So that's 3 big wins in succession.
I have to admit that I made a comment last year about Paolini being weak, but she actually rips the ball for someone her size. When she's on, she can really blast away and surprise people.

Well that umpire screwed up at least two things with that.
Um, he was mistaken about the timing of his call, but what was the second thing? Gauff was being an absolute brat. She was constantly interrupting him and speaking over him, and then ridiculously claiming that he was the one that interrupted her. At one point she asked him to let her speak, and he did so without making a peep, and as soon as it was his turn to speak she started talking over him almost immediately.

Anyway, this stuff happens all the time. The umpires always seem a bit arbitrary as to whether they award a point or ask for a replay, so this wasn't some major scandal. Coco just make WAY too big a deal out of it, and more and more she is showing us who she really is. The "nice girl" routine is fooling anyone.

As for the the actual tennis, Gauff was a complete mess in the first set, and honestly I don't know how Pliskova didn't manage to take the 2nd or 3rd, as she was clearly the better player.
 

ScottleeSV

Hall of Fame
Well that's the end of Rybakina's two and a half week marathon. Withdraws.

Stroke of luck for Paolini. Can't remember her being in a W1000 Semi before..
 

Connor35

Semi-Pro
Was looking forward to an Iga-Elena rematch.

Shame Elena got sick and had to WD.

If they can both won today, Iga-Coco oughta be a good one.
 
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