2024 WTA Indian Wells

[spystud]

Why the hell is the final at 11 am?! They have all damn day to get both matches in, ain't like anyone has to be in Miami Monday morning.

 

[spystud]

Cocciaretto beat Shnaider to win the Charleston 125.

 

[pcplum]

Ha, what? You think Swiatek's forehand would really bother Steffi (on either of her wings)? Dude, Swiatek hits a nice, modern, "ATP style" forehand, but it's not THAT amazing. Especially because she doesn't have amazing control with it. If Steffi could deal with greats like Seles and Hingis hitting hard AND accurate, she would have no issues with Swiatek. Heck, a breaking down (physically) Graf even handled young Serena's power without issue. You keep questioning the greatest backhand in the history of the women's game, and I have no idea why.

What was Seles or Hingis average topspin rate? 1500 rpm? 1800 at best? Świątek averages closer to 3000 with as much if not more speed. On clay this is massive. The speed plus topspin rate would absolutely bludgeon Graf's backhand on clay.

Did you not see her semi-final last night? We are talking about a Masters 1000 semi-final, and Kostyuk put out the performance that she did.

Did you watch the 1988 RG final? I actually watched it live on a telly. Mum called me for dinner and it was all over by the time I finished the soup. It was an actual GS final - imagine having the ticket for that and if a local boulangerie had a queue you'd missed the whole shebang.

When did I say I didn't like her looks? There are other players I think are more attractive, but I never implied Swiatek is unattractive. She's fine. Very pleasant looking. Yes, Graf was a fantastic human specimen. You think that's unhealthy? Well then you have to level that accusation at a LOT of people, because that was the general consensus in her playing days.

Because she looks like a basket case during every match. Because she looks like she is on the verge of tears at all times, and never like a confident, in-control, smart and savvy champion.

I'll give you that - you didn't comment on Świątek's attractiveness but you still don't like the way her face looks because it doesn't fit your mental picture of the way "smart and savvy champion" should look like on the court. She doesn't look smart to you and that's ok but her recognition of her own psychological shortcomings is the actual proof she is smart and savvy enough and is trying her best to utilise what mother nature gave her in athletic abilities.

Why do you guys keep bringing up Serena? Aside from having one slam more than Graf, she stats are inferior to Steffi's in just about every other conceivable way.

Oh I must've missed that gem about Serena earlier. Were you actually telling people off for bringing up Serena's stats there? So it's not only about Świątek then. This is getting funnier and funnier.

Once the recency bias (remember that) wears off, people will realize that Graf is easily the greatest Woman to ever play, and perhaps the greatest human being.

Here's some of us hoping your rosy retrospection bias wears off one day (I noticed you haven't mentioned Pam Shriver this time round - I guess there's a progress).

Calling someone "the greatest human being" sounds pretty extreme to me. I wouldn't even call my wife that because she'd think I lost the plot.
If you ever meet Steffi in person under no circumstances tell her that she's the greatest human being because she would definitely file for a restraining order. Unless it's you, Andre - in which case welcome to TTW, pal!

 

[ktx]

Why are y'all arguing about the 90s in here, come on now.

I am gonna go for Sakkari today - actually I will be happy with a 3 setter. I usually can't stand her but kind of interested to see how she plays Iga. The idea that she is high-strung and needs a mellow coach makes sense, but I can see how JPeg needs the opposite. Too much mellow with that pairing.

 

[Rattie]

Paying a rare visit here…..rooting for Iga

 

[coolcamden]

Why are y'all arguing about the 90s in here, come on now.

I am gonna go for Sakkari today - actually I will be happy with a 3 setter. I usually can't stand her but kind of interested to see how she plays Iga. The idea that she is high-strung and needs a mellow coach makes sense, but I can see how JPeg needs the opposite. Too much mellow with that pairing.

I’m with ya 100%. I became a huge Sak fan when I watched her live beating an inform Venus. Over time she kept breaking my hopes. Recently I called for a coaching change and was happy she got David Witt (although I heard it’s temporary on a trial basis). So far I think it’s been good, but we’ll see… just hope it won’t be a Iga beat down and competitive match.

 

[brinkeguthrie]

Is this final on that "T2" channel?

 

[spystud]

Regular TC.

 

[TheGoldenEra1990’s]

My god someone check Sakarri’s test levels LOL. It’s a man baby!!

 

[Deleted member 806402]

I want the double bagel.

 

[spystud]

3-0. I’ll be surprised if we get to 80 minutes today.

 

[MeatTornado]

Formality from here, I guess.

 

[TheGoldenEra1990’s]

swiatek and alcaraz are always gonna have the advantage under these slow as mud conditions.

 

[pcplum]

I want the double bagel.

Hope to finish my soup before it ends

 

[coolcamden]

Maria is just a bundle of nerves.

 

[Lozo1016]

Pending the final result, is 2024's Swiatek tournament the most dominant run in IW history? 6-3, 6-0, 6-4, 6-0, 6-1, 6-2, 6-4, 1-0, 6-2, 6-1

 

[spystud]

Hey, back on serve.

 

[coolcamden]

Great break baby

 

[Sudacafan]

Maria is just a bundle of nerves.

Always been.

 

[Sudacafan]

3-0. I’ll be surprised if we get to 80 minutes today.

Swiatek is the epitome of fake dominance.

 

[austintennis2005]

Wow Maria already rid of her Shift

 

[OddJack]

Any live video sites?

 

[Sudacafan]

I can't decide who to root for.
Can anyone recommend for whom should I, and why?

 

[spystud]

Idiot Mark trying to post in the SDL thread.

 

[spystud]

And there's the opener.

 

[ScottleeSV]

That was a steal right at the end. Sakkari looked better in the rallies for about 4 or 5 games running. Still a lot of life left in this. Swiatek not overly comfortable

 

[spystud]

That service game went poorly.

 

[BenC]

I can't decide who to root for.
Can anyone recommend for whom should I, and why?

Root for a competitive match or else I'm going back to bed until the men's final starts

 

[ScottleeSV]

Could end up the exact same score as 2022; 6-4 6-1.

 

[spystud]

I'll give Maria credit, when she misses, she misses by a LOT.

 

[GAS]

Jacked

 

[TheGoldenEra1990’s]

Boring. The tour is so void of talent for these last dozen years. Hopefully med/alc delivers

 

[BenC]

The bakery had paused morning preparations but has resumed kneading the dough.

 

[spystud]

Spoiler

All over but the handshake.

 

[ScottleeSV]

Swiatek looks completely relaxed now. She looked a bit edgy in the second half of the first set. You've got to get her early. The only window Sakkari had for winning this match was pushing on from 4-4 first set.

 

[coolcamden]

Come on now… Sak is late for her lunch date.

 

[robyrolfo]

WOW! Some essay.
Do you ever get to eat or sleep?

I have a keyboard and I know how to type. It’s not difficult. Sorry if you don’t.

He had to catch up on his posting. He was eating, his mom made meatloaf.

Meatloaf is my least favorite thing that my mother makes.

 

[ScottleeSV]

That was a phenomenal second set performance. She could end up winning this one quite few times. Looks really at home at this tournament.

 

[pcplum]

Maria fell apart. That dropshot attempt was desperate.

 

[spystud]

3-0. I’ll be surprised if we get to 80 minutes today.

78 on the Stadium clock.

 

[Pass750]

Maria fell apart. That dropshot attempt was desperate.

5 points in total in 2nd set!

 

[SeeingDusk]

what a quick finals for swiatek

 

[marc45]

Why the hell is the final at 11 am?! They have all damn day to get both matches in, ain't like anyone has to be in Miami Monday morning.

although I've never heard anyone from the tournament talk about it I really think they love their day tennis there more than other tournaments....even their night sessions start at 6....an older audience out there too?....still better for ratings back east and Europe?

 

[insideguy]

Congrats to Swiatek another big title. She keeps on rolling I think that is 19 for her now.

 

[TheGoldenEra1990’s]

5 points in total in 2nd set!

That’s sad

 

[pepka]

68mins., bagel in the 2nd (could have been 6:0/6:0). Dominant performance once again, congrats.

 

[TheGoldenEra1990’s]

“Sports psychologist” jeesh. LOL. People need overpaid crap like this on their teams. Just give me the money if you’re gonna blow it on doctor Doolittle

 

[GodlessEndeavor]

Out of these two sets, I'd say half a set was quality tennis.

 

[Sudacafan]

Root for a competitive match or else I'm going back to bed until the men's final starts

I had my siesta after Iga won the first set. I missed the donut, just woke up.

 

[socallefty]

I really think they love their day tennis there more than other tournaments....even their night sessions start at 6....an older audience out there too?..

I think this is true. Unlike the Slams and other big-city tournaments, almost the entire crowd for Indian Wells comes to the tournament from other places and so it is often the same people attending the day and night sessions. Even though the night session tickets on Stadium 1 are only for two matches, a lot of the crowd will leave after 1 or 1.5 sets if the second match is one-sided or lacks stars. Many in the crowd probably watched the day session also and so it can be a long day of tennis by 9pm especially as it can be a hot 90 degrees in the day with many courts lacking any shade and a cold 50 degrees at night with wind making it feel colder.