2025 ATP Doubles

[ey039524]

Just watched the tiebreaks in the final:
Popyrin was the dominating player. Huge serves (expected), but also big forehand winners and causing forced errors. Bhambri actually missed a few easy ones, had a double fault in the second set tb.

I hate that singles players can use their ranking to get into doubles draws. Bhambri/Goransson and Harrison/King should be able to get into IW, but they might get bumped from all the singles players, even though they're the hottest dubs players at the moment.

Side note, I remembered to look at the score for the WTA and saw that Townsend/Siniakova beat Hsieh/Ostapenko again in the final.

 

[ey039524]

The draw is out for IW. Learner and Marcos Giron were given a WC. Harrison/King got another, deservedly. Last one went to rublev/kachanov. Not sure why, if they can't get in in their singles rankings. No bhambri.

What really sucks is that men's dubs doesn't start until Sunday. We're going tomorrow and leaving Sunday, so we're not going to see any matches, only practice or women's doubles. This is in contrast to lat year, when we got to catch a lot of exciting matches.

 

[travlerajm]

We drew the dual giraffes.
Mellow, Zed & Baby Fed. Should be fun.

 

[ey039524]

Watched a lot of practice live today. Took us a while to get there this a.m. so just caught the last few minutes of ram/Kracijek vs granollers/zeballos.

Then we saw ebden/peers vs Roger vasselin/Nys. Ebden/peers and RV looked sharp, Nys, not at the same level.

Next was Vliegen/withrow vs reboul/doumbia: Vliegen can bomb serves, but his volleys don't look as clean as the other top players.

Moved to dodig/Bopanna vs Venus/Harrison (supposed to be mektic, but no idea where he was). D/B didn't look as sharp as V/H.

Then it was Skupski/Salisbury vs Murray/Pavlasek. Both teams looked pretty good (i.e. evenly matched).

Saw Harrison practicing vs shapo; and molteini and his coach; Arevalo w a Weil Academy kid.

Ended watching the Italians vs Behar/Galloway, w the Italians dominating.

Saw peers and ebden walk off after their second practice and molteini/Gonzalez practicing w each other.

Gonna scope the practice courts again tomorrow and watch the Townsend/Siniakova match. Bummer there's no men's doubles until Sunday.

 

[travlerajm]

Watched a lot of practice live today. Took us a while to get there this a.m. so just caught the last few minutes of ram/Kracijek vs granollers/zeballos.

Then we saw ebden/peers vs Roger vasselin/Nys. Ebden/peers and RV looked sharp, Nys, not at the same level.

Next was Vliegen/withrow vs reboul/doumbia: Vliegen can bomb serves, but his volleys don't look as clean as the other top players.

Moved to dodig/Bopanna vs Venus/Harrison (supposed to be mektic, but no idea where he was). D/B didn't look as sharp as V/H.

Then it was Skupski/Salisbury vs Murray/Pavlasek. Both teams looked pretty good (i.e. evenly matched).

Saw Harrison practicing vs shapo; and molteini and his coach; Arevalo w a Weil Academy kid.

Ended watching the Italians vs Behar/Galloway, w the Italians dominating.

Saw peers and ebden walk off after their second practice and molteini/Gonzalez practicing w each other.

Gonna scope the practice courts again tomorrow and watch the Townsend/Siniakova match. Bummer there's no men's doubles until Sunday.

The singles draw has had lots of upsets this week.

Looking back at past champs, every Indian wellls dubs champ going back to the 2013 Bryan Bro’s has had at least one guy who reached World #1 or #2.

So I don’t expect a rando to win it.

 

[ey039524]

The singles draw has had lots of upsets this week.

Looking back at past champs, every Indian wellls dubs champ going back to the 2013 Bryan Bro’s has had at least one guy who reached World #1 or #2.

So I don’t expect a rando to win it.

The Italians look good. If you serve or hit to their forehands, look out. My son thought that either ebden/peers or the Argentinians looked the best. Saw heliovaara/Patten practice but not playing a practice match.

 

[travlerajm]

Zeballos’ rough start to the year didn’t get any relief by his old running mate Granollers’ return to action.

They got routed in R1 by a couple of singles dudes, Tabilo and Lehecka.

 

[travlerajm]

The Italians routined in R1 by veteran ex slam champs Murray / Peers.

 

[travlerajm]

Bold Prediction:

Defending ATP finals champs Krawietz & Puetz, who are at #5 in the race and ranked #6 #7, will drop in the rankings and fail to qualify for Turin in 2025.

 

[ey039524]

Bold Prediction:

Defending ATP finals champs Krawietz & Puetz, who are at #5 in the race and ranked #6 #7, will drop in the rankings and fail to qualify for Turin in 2025.

Where are they? Don't remember seeing them in the draw.

 

[travlerajm]

Where are they? Don't remember seeing them in the draw.

I actually don’t know why they aren’t there. Probably an injury. My prediction is based on quick analysis of 2025 +/- stats that indicates K/P have been greatly overperforming expectation based on +/- compared to the other top teams, and are due for a regression.

 

[Tallawah Tennis]

Watched a lot of practice live today. Took us a while to get there this a.m. so just caught the last few minutes of ram/Kracijek vs granollers/zeballos.

Then we saw ebden/peers vs Roger vasselin/Nys. Ebden/peers and RV looked sharp, Nys, not at the same level.

Next was Vliegen/withrow vs reboul/doumbia: Vliegen can bomb serves, but his volleys don't look as clean as the other top players.....

What a treat, man, to catch all these sessions - thanks for your summary.

The Italians routined in R1 by veteran ex slam champs Murray / Peers.

Yah man, good win by Ebden / Peers. Pleased to see Skupski / Salisbury through, and Cash / Glasspool have just ousted D/D in straghts - well played. Interested to see how Murray / Pavlasek & Bhambri / Goransson will do.

 

[ey039524]

What a treat, man, to catch all these sessions - thanks for your summary.



Yah man, good win by Ebden / Peers. Pleased to see Skupski / Salisbury through, and Cash / Glasspool have just ousted D/D in straghts - well played. Interested to see how Murray / Pavlasek & Bhambri / Goransson will do.

Glad that bhambri got in. Also saw that seggerman/trhac are back together after their deep run last year. They haven't been playing together lately, either, but now they look like they're going to take out rublev/kachanov.

 

[Tallawah Tennis]

... look like they're going to take out rublev/kachanov.

Dudes did it, excellent decider to clinch it.

 

[travlerajm]

Yuki ‘Bam Bam’ Bhambri has now won an astounding 8 consecutive supertiebreaks. with 5 different partners. He and partner of the week Goransson took out Gille/Zielinski.

His opponents haven’t been chumps. This streak includes 5 wins over teams with an argument to be considered Top 3 in the world. 2x over A/P (current #1),1x over H/P (#1 in race)), and 2x over C/G (#3 in race).

The man is a menace! Gotta stick a fork in him in straights or face the consequences.

A rematch against H/P awaits next round.

 

[travlerajm]

Intriguing matchup of the day:

Harrison/King vs. Ebden/Peers

Intriguing because Ebden/Peers are heavily favored by oddsmakers, but not very clear why other than glory days of yore?

Harrison/King are #4 in the race and #1 for 2025 for short format.

 

[Tallawah Tennis]

Yuki ‘Bam Bam’ Bhambri has now won an astounding 8 consecutive supertiebreaks. with 5 different partners.......
The man is a menace! Gotta stick a fork in him in straights or face the consequences.

A rematch against H/P awaits next round.

Heh, heh, yah man. Pleased to see him & Goransson through. Intrigued as to how he'll continue. Also pleased to see Patten/Helio; Murray/ Pavlasek through.

Murray makes history by winning his 1000th match - Melo being the only other dubs player to have done it. Enjoyed this article:

Jamie Murray makes history, plays 1,000th tour-level doubles match | ATP Tour | Tennis

Jamie Murray played the 1,000th tour-level doubles match of his career on Monday at the BNP Paribas Open, becoming the first Briton and only the second active player, joining Marcelo Melo, to accomplish the feat.

www.atptour.com

Annoying when singles players join the dubs draw and then pull out-seems to be rife at IW.

 

[travlerajm]

Interesting also that new pairing Korda/Thompson favored in odds over ex #1s Salisbury/Skup.

 

[Tallawah Tennis]

Interesting also that new pairing Korda/Thompson favored in odds over ex #1s Salisbury/Skup.

Heh,heh, the odds lived up to expectation. Enjoyed the match, good to see Jordan winning it. The pairing with Korda seems to be clicking.
Watching Bhambri/ Goransson who are up for the contest, taking the 1st set convincingly 6-2. Not sure why Patten/Helio look relatively disjointed - unless they pull their socks up, this will be over in straights.

@ey039524- are you still at IW / watching any of these matches?

 

[ey039524]

Heh,heh, the odds lived up to expectation. Enjoyed the match, good to see Jordan winning it. The pairing with Korda seems to be clicking.
Watching Bhambri/ Goransson who are up for the contest, taking the 1st set convincingly 6-2. Not sure why Patten/Helio look relatively disjointed - unless they pull their socks up, this will be over in straights.

@ey039524- are you still at IW / watching any of these matches?

No, I left on Sunday, so I missed all the real matches, just saw them play practice sets.

I saw that Michelson pulled out of his singles match b/c of a stomach virus. Not sure why Giron/Tien or the Italian singles players pulled out.

My son thought Ebden/Peers were playing the best. We'll see.

 

[travlerajm]

Today would make 4 of our 9 losses this season. Nemesis.

 

[ey039524]

Today would make 4 of our 9 losses this season. Nemesis.

I don't get it. From the little I've watched of him on replay, he's not dominant. His level looks commensurate w everyone else on court. He just wins. Same w Harrison/king as of late.

 

[travlerajm]

I don't get it. From the little I've watched of him on replay, he's not dominant. His level looks commensurate w everyone else on court. He just wins. Same w Harrison/king as of late.

He got us the first time back in Dallas 2023. Once he gets to the end of a super, he stops missing.

 

[InsuranceMan]

Man Peers looks ancient but I can’t tell if that’s just tennis + Aussie lifestyle. I’ve never even heard of King ngl. He’s got an interesting image for sure, Dustin Brown meets James Harden on the hair there. I saw him and immediately thought he doesn’t look like a top pro but he clearly can play. Is Ebden sponsored by ******* Old El Paso?

 

[Tallawah Tennis]

No, I left on Sunday, so I missed all the real matches, just saw them play practice sets.

I saw that Michelson pulled out of his singles match b/c of a stomach virus. Not sure why Giron/Tien or the Italian singles players pulled out.

My son thought Ebden/Peers were playing the best. We'll see.

Well, man- the practice sets sounded great. Ebden / Peers did look good, but went out. Not without a fight though. Glaspool / Cash fought too, but were trumped by Rombolli / Smith, as were Patten / Helio with ( to use @travlerajm analogy) the menace that is Bhambri prevailing! Sorry to note Murray / Pavlasek are out.
The qfs look interesting, especially keen on seeing how Thompson / Korda get on.

 

[ey039524]

Well, man- the practice sets sounded great. Ebden / Peers did look good, but went out. Not without a fight though. Glaspool / Cash fought too, but were trumped by Rombolli / Smith, as were Patten / Helio with ( to use @travlerajm analogy) the menace that is Bhambri prevailing! Sorry to note Murray / Pavlasek are out.
The qfs look interesting, especially keen on seeing how Thompson / Korda get on.

The best thing about the practice sets is that you can sit front row and hear what they're saying. My son was impressed that Ebden/Peers coach each other. After every point, they're discussing something or another. Can't wait to go back and watch all the tiebreaks from yesterday.

I'm actually surprised that Thompson/Korda are still in (same w/ Berrettini/Sonego).

Didn't get to catch Rombolli/Smith practice, but saw Glasspool/Cash.

Man Peers looks ancient but I can’t tell if that’s just tennis + Aussie lifestyle. I’ve never even heard of King ngl. He’s got an interesting image for sure, Dustin Brown meets James Harden on the hair there. I saw him and immediately thought he doesn’t look like a top pro but he clearly can play. Is Ebden sponsored by ******* Old El Paso?

Big lefty serve. Saw him and Harrison practice vs. Gille/Zielinski and it was tight. They're the hottest team right now (Bhambri and his partner of the week being the other hot player).

 

[travlerajm]

The best thing about the practice sets is that you can sit front row and hear what they're saying. My son was impressed that Ebden/Peers coach each other. After every point, they're discussing something or another. Can't wait to go back and watch all the tiebreaks from yesterday.

I'm actually surprised that Thompson/Korda are still in (same w/ Berrettini/Sonego).

Didn't get to catch Rombolli/Smith practice, but saw Glasspool/Cash.


Big lefty serve. Saw him and Harrison practice vs. Gille/Zielinski and it was tight. They're the hottest team right now (Bhambri and his partner of the week being the other hot player).

Heliovaara posted in his blog that he hopes Bhambri is on opposite side of draw in Miami.

 

[ey039524]

Went back and watched the TBs:
Ebden/Peers vs Harrison/King: I think Harrison/King could've closed it out in straight sets if they didn't make the tactical error of having Harrison serve first in the second set tb. King has the better serve, and Harrison is better at the net. Harrison suffered two mini breaks and that was all it took. In the match tb, they corrected this, King served first. Harrison even double faulted once, and they still came back from a mini break a couple times and won. King had two good returns on Peers' serve, made him pop up a half-volley both times.

Heliovaara/Patten vs. Bhambri/Goransson: Never really watched Goransson before, but he was the one who pushed them over the finish line. A few solid returns were enough to get them 5 match points in the match tb. I remember he played w/ Ben McLachlan a few years ago. Partnered w/ Verbeek last year and made the AO semis this year. No clue where Verbeek is, but he's missing out. Interestingly, both Bhambri and Goransson played w/ Olivetti. Again, Bhambri didn't do anything special, but wins, regardless. Remember, this is just based on watching the tb.

Thompson/Korda vs. Salisbury/Skupski: I always thought that Thompson was carried by Purcell, so didn't expect him and Korda to do well. The Brits had match point on their serve, Salisbury didn't put away an easy OH, and Korda took care of the rest, filling the role left by Purcell.

Molteini/Gonzalez vs. Nys/Roger-Vasselin: We saw both teams practice quite a bit last weekend. Nys was struggling in practice. RV was steady as usual. The Argentinians looked sharp in practice, and their form carried over.

I'm picking the Argetinians vs. Harrison/King for the final. I think Harrison/King have a scouting advantage b/c they're new to the ATP tour, after playing challengers last year, so teams probably don't have any data on them. We saw Arevalo practice, but Pavic wasn't there, yet, so can't comment on their form.

 

[socallefty]

Think Harrison/King could've closed it out in straight sets if they didn't make the tactical error of having Harrison serve first in the second set tb.

You can’t change the server order for a tiebreaker during a set. The order in which the servers served during the set continues. Similarly the returners cannot change their return side.

A match tiebreaker is different because it is considered a new set and here the server order or returner position can be changed.

 

[ey039524]

You can’t change the server order for a tiebreaker during a set. The order in which the servers served during the set continues. Similarly the returners cannot change their return side.

A match tiebreaker is different because it is considered a new set and here the server order or returner position can be changed.

Ah, makes sense why Harrison served first then, thanks.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Man Peers looks ancient but I can’t tell if that’s just tennis + Aussie lifestyle. I’ve never even heard of King ngl. He’s got an interesting image for sure, Dustin Brown meets James Harden on the hair there. I saw him and immediately thought he doesn’t look like a top pro but he clearly can play. Is Ebden sponsored by ******* Old El Paso?

Hey don't diss the Aussies

We're actually doing quite well!

Jordan Thompson into the SF along with Seb Korda. And they'll face Aussie JP Smith who's into his best ever result at a Masters 1000, he plays with Romboli from Brazil. That pairing got in as an alternate! And now they're into the SF.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Went back and watched the TBs:
Ebden/Peers vs Harrison/King: I think Harrison/King could've closed it out in straight sets if they didn't make the tactical error of having Harrison serve first in the second set tb. King has the better serve, and Harrison is better at the net. Harrison suffered two mini breaks and that was all it took. In the match tb, they corrected this, King served first. Harrison even double faulted once, and they still came back from a mini break a couple times and won. King had two good returns on Peers' serve, made him pop up a half-volley both times.

Heliovaara/Patten vs. Bhambri/Goransson: Never really watched Goransson before, but he was the one who pushed them over the finish line. A few solid returns were enough to get them 5 match points in the match tb. I remember he played w/ Ben McLachlan a few years ago. Partnered w/ Verbeek last year and made the AO semis this year. No clue where Verbeek is, but he's missing out. Interestingly, both Bhambri and Goransson played w/ Olivetti. Again, Bhambri didn't do anything special, but wins, regardless. Remember, this is just based on watching the tb.

Thompson/Korda vs. Salisbury/Skupski: I always thought that Thompson was carried by Purcell, so didn't expect him and Korda to do well. The Brits had match point on their serve, Salisbury didn't put away an easy OH, and Korda took care of the rest, filling the role left by Purcell.

Molteini/Gonzalez vs. Nys/Roger-Vasselin: We saw both teams practice quite a bit last weekend. Nys was struggling in practice. RV was steady as usual. The Argentinians looked sharp in practice, and their form carried over.

I'm picking the Argetinians vs. Harrison/King for the final. I think Harrison/King have a scouting advantage b/c they're new to the ATP tour, after playing challengers last year, so teams probably don't have any data on them. We saw Arevalo practice, but Pavic wasn't there, yet, so can't comment on their form.

Think you might have misread the draw as the Argentinians v Harrison/King was the QF today. With Harrison/King winning. They'll face the top seeds Arevalo/Pavic in the SF (the only seeded pair remaining).
Meanwhile the bottom half is Thompson/Korda v Comboli/JP Smith.

Also should be worth mentioning Jordan Thompson is not to be ignored. Not only is he the reigning USO Champ, he did win a Masters with (you guessed it) Sebastian Korda last year in Madrid.

 

[ey039524]

Think you might have misread the draw as the Argentinians v Harrison/King was the QF today. With Harrison/King winning. They'll face the top seeds Arevalo/Pavic in the SF (the only seeded pair remaining).
Meanwhile the bottom half is Thompson/Korda v Comboli/JP Smith.

Also should be worth mentioning Jordan Thompson is not to be ignored. Not only is he the reigning USO Champ, he did win a Masters with (you guessed it) Sebastian Korda last year in Madrid.

I thought that the Argentinians were in the bottom half for some reason. That's what happens when you're trying to recall the draw from memory. Getting old sucks.

It's hard to find highlights of the women's doubles, but I found this gem:
https://www.wtatennis.com/videos/42...f-thrilling-tiebreak-comeback-at-indian-wells

 

[Tallawah Tennis]

...............I'm picking the Argetinians vs. Harrison/King for the final. I think Harrison/King have a scouting advantage b/c they're new to the ATP tour, after playing challengers last year, so teams probably don't have any data on them. We saw Arevalo practice, but Pavic wasn't there, yet, so can't comment on their form.

Good observations - H/K doing well, through to the sf, as are A/P, who continue to impress. B/G fought well, pipped by S/R. Pleased to see JT/SK through too. Good sf's coming up, A/P only seeded pair left in it.

 

[travlerajm]

We interrupt this thread to report that Arévalo/Pavic remembered who they are today.

They dominated Harrison/King, the best short-format team for 2025, to reach the Indian Wells final.

It seemed a few weeks ago almost a certainty that the end of their run at #1 would end very soon, but this result gives them some cushion ahead of H/P and makes it a real possibility that A/P might hold onto the top spot into the channel slam season.

 

[Tallawah Tennis]

We interrupt this thread to report that Arévalo/Pavic remembered who they are today....

Yah man - was lucky to find time to watch them. Should have won it sooner, got broken when serving for the match, with a robust effort from wild cards, K/ H. As you say, remembered who they were ....
Watching T/K and R/S now, and the latter took the 1st set relatively straightforwardly. 2nd set better for T/K though, up a break and looking livelier. This one loooking like a deciding setter.