2025 French Open - Women's Discussion

Who will be 2025 French Open women's singles champion?

  • Sabalenka

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • Gauff

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Pegula

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Paolini

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Swiatek

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Andreeva

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • Keys

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Zheng

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Navarro

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Badosa

    Votes: 1 8.3%

  • Total voters
    12
  • Poll closed .
Thank god Gauff did it!

Also a reminder that this is the first WTA slam final since the 2018 Australian Open where it's the World #1 vs the World #2!

We came close many times but it always fell through.
In case people forgot, that 2018 Aus Open final was between then slamless yet #1 Simona Halep vs then slamless yet #2 Caroline Wozniacki.

It was a great match with Wozniacki taking it and the #1 ranking. Halep went 0-3 in slam finals and many thought it could break her, but the very next slam at the French Open she came from 6-3 2-0 down to win over Sloane Stephens.
 
My gut was emphatically wrong! Cinderella's clock struck midnight & all slippers were lost.

Quite the run, we may not see anything like this again in a long time. She won like 8x the prize money she up to this point in her career.
Well, she has the game to be in the top 100, but her problem now is that she has a target on her back. Her future opponents will feel that they have to prove a point against the fairytale girl. It’s not going to be easy.
 
Errani's DELIBERATE (illegal) grunts/screams are so annoying I have turned off the sound.

If I was on the court playing her I would scream at the top of my lungs every time
I hit the ball, even if I hit a drop-shot.
If the umpire complained to me, I would ask them why they haven't complained to
Errani?
 
Mirreeva and Shnaider are good doubles players but they still have a ton to learn about how to play it properly. It goes beyond technique. It's mostly about strategy.
 
Mirreeva and Shnaider are good doubles players but they still have a ton to learn about how to play it properly. It goes beyond technique. It's mostly about strategy.

Errani is a grandmaster and Paolini an eager pupil which has grown much.

Pannetta-Schiavone closing in on their win in the legends.

Too much tennis, must go biking or swimming, if not brain will fry.
 
Sabalenka in the final will be looking to be the first woman since Ash Barty to win 3 of the 4 slams and be one away from a career slam.

Barty never attempted to complete the career slam at the USO as she retired after her Aus Open triumph. So if Sabs does win this, she’ll be the first woman since Kerber to have won 3 of the 4 slams and try for the career slam.

Nobody has won the career slam since Sharapova at RG in 2012.
 
I know conditions are extremely windy but still, Sab all those sitters that you missed at
5-4 first set!
I think Gauff's eyelashes might be psyching you out?
 
Sab needs more than a racket change.
A brain change is more appropriate.

Possibly a brain chip, which seems to be all the rage these days?
 
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In case people forgot, that 2018 Aus Open final was between then slamless yet #1 Simona Halep vs then slamless yet #2 Caroline Wozniacki.

It was a great match with Wozniacki taking it and the #1 ranking. Halep went 0-3 in slam finals and many thought it could break her, but the very next slam at the French Open she came from 6-3 2-0 down to win over Sloane Stephens.
I for one will never forget their 2018 final, it was the most enthralling women's final I'd seen in years.
 
This is win-win for me and tennis overall: Gauff is te next generation of powerful African American women to make their presence known and with serious talent. With Gauff's French Open 2025 victory, the first two majors of the year were won by African American women--I will let others note the last time that happened in professional tennis.

Although I was supporting Sabelenka, she will return to majors glory in time. As mentioned at the end of the 2025 Australian Open, some country club-minded Sabalenka haters on this board (who squeal like trapped rodents more than any noise from a tennis player) are setting themselves up for a rather painful (deserved) fall if they think the player of this era is somehow "done" at the majors. Gauff had the right mix of resolve (at times struggling against the powerful Sabelenka) and insight to win the day...and her 1st French Open title. Well earned!

As always, the updated list of majors winners (not named Serena, because a certain, active Talk Tennis Warehouse member used to wet his diapers saying: "just hand the trophy to Serena" when she was on tour, yet she did not--obviously--win every major) since 2010:

Schiavone: FO - 2010

Clijsters: USO 2010 & AO 2011

Li Na: FO 2011 & AO 2014

Kvitova: Wimbledon 2011 & 2014

Stosur: USO 2011

Sharapova: FO 2012 & FO 2014

Azarenka: AO 2012 & 2013

Bartoli: Wimbledon 2013

Pennetta: USO 2015

Kerber: AO 2016, USO 2016 & Wimbledon 2018

Muguruza: FO 2016 & Wimbledon 2017

Ostapenko: FO 2017

Stephens: USO 2017

Wozniacki: AO 2018

Osaka: USO 2018, 2020 & AO 2019 and 2021

Barty: FO 2019, Wimbledon 2021 & A0 2022

Halep: FO 2018 & Wimbledon 2019

Andreescu: 2019 USO

Kenin: AO 2020

Krejčíková: FO 2021, Wimbledon 2024

Raducanu: USO 2021

Świątek: FO 2020 & 2022, 2023, 2024 & USO 2022

Rybakina: Wimbledon 2022

Vondroušová: Wimbledon 2023

Gauff: USO 2023, FO 2025

Sabalenka: AO 2023, 2024 & USO 2024

Keys: AO 2025


Once again, history was already made during the rise and reign of the Williams sisters as Black women winning so many majors in the same period, and now, with Osaka, then Keys starting 2025 with a victory, followed by Gauff with this French Open, tennis is witnessing a powerful group of Black female representation that--hopefully-continues to grow, and send a message that's always needed in this sport.

Side note: an eternal round of applause for Sabalenka in easily beating the overrated "Female Nadal" / "Queen of the French Open" aka the chronic cheater Swiatek. She is suffering from a freefall (no...er..juice?) of her form. I will not predict she won't win another major, but she is not this "once in a generation" force some dull individuals claimed she was.
 
This is win-win for me and tennis overall: Gauff is te next generation of powerful African American women to make their presence known and with serious talent. With Gauff's French Open 2025 victory, the first two majors of the year were won by African American women--I will let others note the last time that happened in professional tennis.

Although I was supporting Sabelenka, she will return to majors glory in time. As mentioned at the end of the 2025 Australian Open, some country club-minded Sabalenka haters on this board (who squeal like trapped rodents more than any noise from a tennis player) are setting themselves up for a rather painful (deserved) fall if they think the player of this era is somehow "done" at the majors. Gauff had the right mix of resolve (at times struggling against the powerful Sabelenka) and insight to win the day...and her 1st French Open title. Well earned!

As always, the updated list of majors winners (not named Serena, because a certain, active Talk Tennis Warehouse member used to wet his diapers saying: "just hand the trophy to Serena" when she was on tour, yet she did not--obviously--win every major) since 2010:

Schiavone: FO - 2010

Clijsters: USO 2010 & AO 2011

Li Na: FO 2011 & AO 2014

Kvitova: Wimbledon 2011 & 2014

Stosur: USO 2011

Sharapova: FO 2012 & FO 2014

Azarenka: AO 2012 & 2013

Bartoli: Wimbledon 2013

Pennetta: USO 2015

Kerber: AO 2016, USO 2016 & Wimbledon 2018

Muguruza: FO 2016 & Wimbledon 2017

Ostapenko: FO 2017

Stephens: USO 2017

Wozniacki: AO 2018

Osaka: USO 2018, 2020 & AO 2019 and 2021

Barty: FO 2019, Wimbledon 2021 & A0 2022

Halep: FO 2018 & Wimbledon 2019

Andreescu: 2019 USO

Kenin: AO 2020

Krejčíková: FO 2021, Wimbledon 2024

Raducanu: USO 2021

Świątek: FO 2020 & 2022, 2023, 2024 & USO 2022

Rybakina: Wimbledon 2022

Vondroušová: Wimbledon 2023

Gauff: USO 2023, FO 2025

Sabalenka: AO 2023, 2024 & USO 2024

Keys: AO 2025


Once again, history was already made during the rise and reign of the Williams sisters as Black women winning so many majors in the same period, and now, with Osaka, then Keys starting 2025 with a victory, followed by Gauff with this French Open, tennis is witnessing a powerful group of Black female representation that--hopefully-continues to grow, and send a message that's always needed in this sport.

Side note: an eternal round of applause for Sabalenka in easily beating the overrated "Female Nadal" / "Queen of the French Open" aka the chronic cheater Swiatek. She is suffering from a freefall (no...er..juice?) of her form. I will not predict she won't win another major, but she is not this "once in a generation" force some dull individuals claimed she was.
All's fair with your post.
But has anyone ever suggested that you might, even slightly, be favoring black female tennis players for some reason?
 
Danilina/Krunic v. Errani/Paolini for the doubles crown in about 3 hours.
Rooting for Errani/Paolini, mainly because before just checking Paolini's achievements I assumed she has already won a GS in doubles but it turns out she's not. They won the Olympic Gold together last year which I'd assume as a team has to feel like the biggest achievement in tennis (I may be wrong?!) I'd love to see Paolini bounce back from an earlier exit in the singles this year and go out on a high. As for Errani - she's won all the GSs in doubles and the Olympic Gold. The big title she doesn't have is the YEC (haven't checked 1000 events) so maybe they can go for that at the end of the year if they have the energy to spare.
 
I'm so glad Coco won the singles. I was listening on the radio and it seemed like Sabalenka was running away with it at the beginning but as soon as I heard she kept making errors I felt Coco always had a solid chance of turning the match around. I then watched the highlights and I know people moan about Sabalenka's grunting but it truly is insanely annoying, and her demeanour seemed super negative - in a way she needs to take herself a bit less seriously cause she isn't guaranteed to win 5+ slams with the talent she faces. She has a big game, and may be naturally more powerful than most but most game styles with that much power tend to be erratic and prone to huge UE counts when stressed/pressured. In a way beating Iga in the SF almost made it feel like she had deserved the trophy from that SF win but commenting that Gauff would have lost to Iga was underhand and not guaranteed given Gauff has now won multiple matches against Iga and as we saw in set 3 of Sabalenka v Iga, Iga is clearly compromised compared to previous years at RG.

Wimbledon is going to be very interesting with top players looking to bounce back from disappointments at RG. Many top players made R4 and QF so will be hungry to progress deeper at Wimbledon. Players like Vondrousova and Krejcikova are also on the comeback (perhaps it's too soon for them). There are also players who's game style happens to be far more potent on grass than hard and clay, so it'll be exciting that's for sure.
 
Jasmine Paolini getting ready to win her first slam. Not in singles but in the doubles with Errani.

The Olympic Gold Medallists looking to convert it to the slams now and are 2 games away from the RG title.
 
Errani/Paolini are the 2025 Roland Garros champions.

That's Jasmine's first slam and it's Errani's 8th! (6 in ladies doubles and 2 in mixed doubles). Errani also wins both the ladies doubles slam and mixed doubles slam!

The Olympic gold medallists beat the unseeded pairing of Danilina/Krunic 6-4 2-6 6-1.

11 years since Errani last won a ladies doubles slam. She's 38 but really hitting her stride after winning OG with Paolini and also the mixed doubles trophy here and at the US Open in the last year!
 
Just finished watching the women’s doubles final on delay and it was a terrific match. Both sides fought really hard. Errani and Paolini seemed to be doing a heel turn and going right after their opponents’ bodies. They also questioned a clearly out call in the second set. Despite the third set score, half the set was super close with almost all those games going to deuce. Krunic is close to the definition of a journey woman. I’ve been aware of her at least since she made the US Open 4th round in 2014, her best major result. It was good to see her happy at age 32, making her first slam final and drawing inspiration from 38-year-old Errani to achieve these kinds of results in doubles.
 
I guess I was not clueless about absolutely everything considering this French Open: Picked Gauff to win the title! (Really Surprising that I was he only one! :oops: )
 
No No intrepidish you dont understand. She only is the only female player in history other than Chris Evert to make two French opens before this age.

Its all lucky draws;)
I think you mean Gauff is only American other than Evert to make 2 RG finals before this age. Seles won 3 straight RGs before the age of 19, And Graf, Hingis, Sanchez all made multiple RG finals at younger ages than Gauff. Seles played for Yugoslavia, not the US, in those years.
 
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Damn... Sabalenka is truly messed up :-D
“It’s another tough grand slam final against Coco,” Sabalenka said.
“Another terrible performance from me against Coco in the final. I have to step back, look at this from a perspective, and try to finally learn the lesson, because I cannot go out there every time against her in Grand Slam finals and play such terrible tennis and give those wins, not easily, but emotionally.”
 
Ok, people are giving Sabalenka a hard time about her comments, but she isn't wrong. Just look at match point: yet another forehand frame/shank from Gauff that catches the line and catches Sabalenka off guard.

Yes, it's Sabalenka's fault for losing her head. Gauff is the best in the world at retrieving. That's her thing. Her forehand often looks like a USTA 4.5 forehand (actually, I play with some 4.5 women that seem to have better forehands when given time). But like in the US Open final, Sabalenka just couldn't deal with having to put that extra ball away.

Coco is good at winning ugly, and that's fine for her... but she will never be one of the sports greats, even though she is convinced she will be.

does anybody check in with roby?
I'm here! I can't watch these matches live, so after having the result of the women's final ruined for me, I wasn't coming anywhere near this forum until I saw the men's final (which was LONG).

Anyway, I think you think I care a lot more than I do. Even when it comes to may absolute favorite team in sports, it's all just for added fun. I have my own life, and that's what really matters.

This is win-win for me and tennis overall: Gauff is te next generation of powerful African American women to make their presence known and with serious talent. With Gauff's French Open 2025 victory, the first two majors of the year were won by African American women--I will let others note the last time that happened in professional tennis.

Once again, history was already made during the rise and reign of the Williams sisters as Black women winning so many majors in the same period, and now, with Osaka, then Keys starting 2025 with a victory, followed by Gauff with this French Open, tennis is witnessing a powerful group of Black female representation that--hopefully-continues to grow, and send a message that's always needed in this sport.
Why so much emphasis on race? It's 2025. It was already out of date when the Williams sisters played, because Arthur Ashe, Althea Gibson, and several others already paved the way. The sooner people stop talking about it, the sooner it will stop being a thing. Trust me, I'm from NY, I know.

Krunic got jokes.
Tough crowd, though.
Krunic is super cute and a nice story. Really happy for her.

Its all lucky draws;)
You are joking, but you should really look at her draws. She has gotten so many free rides to the later stages of slams.

I think you mean Gauff is only American other than Evert to make 2 RG finals before this age. Seles won 3 straight RGs before the age of 19, And Graf, Hingis, Sanchez all made multiple RG finals at younger ages than Gauff. Seles played for Yugoslavia, not the US, in those years.
This! Again, people making Gauff out to be this wonder kid, but this is hardly new territory in the women's game. Plus, based on what we have seen all tournament including the final, any of those players (Graf, Seles, Hingis, Sanchez) would beat Coco 2 and 2 at the French.
 
Sabalenka was not only wrong, but if she actually believes what she said she'll get burned again and again the same way.

And saying you play with 4.5s who have better forehands than Coco is laughable.

If Coco played with you and your friends her forehand would be an unstoppable confident weapon by comparison.
 
Sabalenka was not only wrong, but if she actually believes what she said she'll get burned again and again the same way.

And saying you play with 4.5s who have better forehands than Coco is laughable.

If Coco played with you and your friends her forehand would be an unstoppable confident weapon by comparison.
Do you actually watch a lot of Gauff's matches? The best attribute of her forehand is that it is so random and inconsistent that it throws her opponents off due to unpredictability and unintentional variety. Seriously, watch her matches. There is usually a point in the match where Gauff herself seems to have no clue what will come off of her racquet, but neither do her opponents. And when shanks catch lines, it drives her opponents crazy mentally.

And yes, with time to setup and under less pressure, I've seen 4.5 women that can do more with their forehands. Obviously the pressure component is key, but Gauff is supposed to be one of the best in the world, no?
 
Do you actually watch a lot of Gauff's matches? The best attribute of her forehand is that it is so random and inconsistent that it throws her opponents off due to unpredictability and unintentional variety. Seriously, watch her matches. There is usually a point in the match where Gauff herself seems to have no clue what will come off of her racquet, but neither do her opponents. And when shanks catch lines, it drives her opponents crazy mentally.

And yes, with time to setup and under less pressure, I've seen 4.5 women that can do more with their forehands. Obviously the pressure component is key, but Gauff is supposed to be one of the best in the world, no?


Again, Coco might have problems when compared to the very best women in the WORLD.

With you and your friends? She'd be so comfortable that she'd have extra time for everything, no pressure, never make an error and would blow you off the court
 
Again, Coco might have problems when compared to the very best women in the WORLD.

With you and your friends? She'd be so comfortable that she'd have extra time for everything, no pressure, never make an error and would blow you off the court
Ok, you are really struggling with the analogy. Nobody is talking about playing tennis against Gauff. Nobody is talking about regular people playing against the world #2. Understand?

We are talking specifically about her forehand, and specifically when it breaks down under pressure (so in most big matches, including the final). Go back and watch her Australian Open match against Kostyuk. There is a reason why even sympathetic people in the media called it an awful match to watch (as they have many of her matches recently).
 
Ok, you are really struggling with the analogy. Nobody is talking about playing tennis against Gauff. Nobody is talking about regular people playing against the world #2. Understand?

We are talking specifically about her forehand, and specifically when it breaks down under pressure (so in most big matches, including the final). Go back and watch her Australian Open match against Kostyuk. There is a reason why even sympathetic people in the media called it an awful match to watch (as they have many of her matches recently).

Everyone knows that Gauff can have problems with her forehand but that's when pressed by the best players in the world. If she played with your friends on the other hand, their forehands would break down and hers would look unbelievably great.

So, when you say something like "I've seen 4.5 women that can do more with their forehands" it's appropriate to remind you that the 2 things are not even in the same universe.
 
Everyone knows that Gauff can have problems with her forehand but that's when pressed by the best players in the world. If she played with your friends on the other hand, their forehands would break down and hers would look unbelievably great.

So, when you say something like "I've seen 4.5 women that can do more with their forehands" it's appropriate to remind you that the 2 things are not even in the same universe.
Wow, why are you struggling so much with such a basic concept? Again, stop talking about her playing against club players. You sound silly. (You also sound like you have no clue what you are talking about, but that's another story).

Her forehand absolutely has problems when NOT pressed by the best players in the world. Again, you clearly haven't watched her play. Her forehand can also be atrocious when she has tons of time to setup for a shot. It's not always breaking down because her opponents are making her hit hard shots.

I just listened to the Tennis Podcast talking about her quarterfinal with Keys. Mind you, these are people that bend over backwards to prop up Gauff in every way humanly possible, but in the span of 5 minutes they described the match (and Gauff's play), as "Plain bad," "Terrible," "Awful to watch," and "Dog sh--t." Yes, that last term is what people who like Gauff used to describe her play.
 
Wow, why are you struggling so much with such a basic concept? Again, stop talking about her playing against club players. You sound silly. (You also sound like you have no clue what you are talking about, but that's another story).

Her forehand absolutely has problems when NOT pressed by the best players in the world. Again, you clearly haven't watched her play. Her forehand can also be atrocious when she has tons of time to setup for a shot. It's not always breaking down because her opponents are making her hit hard shots.

I just listened to the Tennis Podcast talking about her quarterfinal with Keys. Mind you, these are people that bend over backwards to prop up Gauff in every way humanly possible, but in the span of 5 minutes they described the match (and Gauff's play), as "Plain bad," "Terrible," "Awful to watch," and "Dog sh--t." Yes, that last term is what people who like Gauff used to describe her play.

First you bring up club players saying "I've seen 4.5 women that can do more with their forehands" and now you think it sounds silly because I reference your actual words.

Gauff is not playing against 4.5s, she's on the tour playing the best in the world. The fact that you thought it was relevant to compare her to some 4.5s you know (and ridiculously claim they can do more with their forehands) is sheer lunacy. Bad for a player as good as Gauff otherwise is, in a high level WTA main tour match context, is about a million miles away from your ridiculous example.
 
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