2025 Roland Garros QF - Djokovic vs Zverev

Who reaches semis

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RF-18 said:
I once hyped Zverev but I thought he was gonna improve and get by his mental scars but I was terribly wrong wich I have realized for some time now. Same player as always. Djokovic at 38 is still on another level than him wich is to his credit but it says alot about how little Zverev has improved. He isn't better than this.
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Zverev peaked last year, that was his chance to win a slam along with, of course, Covid US Open which should have a big asterisk anyway.
 
paolo2143 said:
Great win for Novak, just shows class is permanent and when he puts his mind to it he is still one of world's best even at the age of 38.

Still think Sinner is playing at too high a level for 38 Yr old Novak but I hope he can make it a really competitive match and put up a better fight than anybody Sinner has met so far.
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He won't beat Sinner, tonight's last set took too long and he has less than 2 days to recover which at 38 will be an issue. Djokovic needed to win in straights really in less than 3 hrs to have a chance. Think it will be tight 1st set but Sinner wins sets 2 and 3 pretty easily
 
Basically if you drop shot Zverev on the forehand side even if he chases it down he doesn’t seem to have the ability to punish you with it. Very sad for a player at his level and with his athleticism. On match point he actually tried to be aggressive with it and missed by a mile. He shoulda went for another dink reply and taking his chances with his awful overhead.
 
davced1 said:
Same old Zverev
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Tf? Zverev was favourite according to you idiots???

Sorry, I've been out all evening eating some cracking Thai food but I didn't even need to keep up with the match because this was about as NID as NID comes. Djoker came here to chew bubblegum and kick Next Gen Ass, and he's all out of bubblegum. The real tests start now
 
Cortana said:
Anyone remembers Zverevs press conference 2 months ago where he was asked if Djokovic is done? And he said something like „Djokovic is a different beast in slams, you‘ll see“.
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I and some others said that too. His performances in the smaller tournaments don't matter anymore, he can still bring it in the slams. I don't think he has quite enough left in those old legs to beat an in form Sinner or Alcaraz in a Best of 5 anymore but he'll give them hell.
 
messiahrobins said:
He won't beat Sinner, tonight's last set took too long and he has less than 2 days to recover which at 38 will be an issue. Djokovic needed to win in straights really in less than 3 hrs to have a chance. Think it will be tight 1st set but Sinner wins sets 2 and 3 pretty easily
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Totally agree but apart from fitness and recovery
this match shows how slow past gen tennis is
Even Zev like Meds is the past gen level of trolling
their shots are too slow.

This wont cut it versus the power of SinRaz
Also Djockold seems slow rusty and impatient
much like when he first lost to Raz at Wimby
missing easy backhands is fatal.

Well done but he is finnish for next match
cant stop the power tennis we have been
waiting for so long.
 
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JackieTreeh0rn said:
What’s your final take?
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The last game was a perfect example.
Zed easily ran down two droppers. Smashed one and hit another one for the winner. A disaster.
The third dropper worked. So we have 1/3 on droppers.
And then the fourth dropper worked and it ended the match.So we have 2/4 in the final game.
Not saying that the dropper is necessarily a bad strategy. Only that the answer is not cut and clear.

Will have to research the dropper stats for the entire match.
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  • X Post Opinions on Drop Shot Failures:
    • An X post by @Sammyb01 at 12:45 PDT on June 4, 2025, suggests that Djokovic’s drop shots against Zverev may not be as effective as assumed, stating, “I don’t think Djokovic realises Zverev’s net play has improved out of sight this last couple of years. It is one of the reasons Zverev (along with serving better) has turned his career around from its mid slump. The drop shots against him are suicidal bringing him in.” This aligns with your opinion that the drop shots are failing, as Zverev’s improved net play may neutralize them.
    • Another post by @raxiren at 12:21 PDT on June 4, 2025, supports this view, noting, “Trying to see the strategy here. Drop shots haven't really been enough to win the exchanges. Zverev more than holding his ground from the baseline.” This indicates that Djokovic’s drop shots are not consistently winning points, concurring with your perspective.
    • A post by @grombarii from May 29, 2025 (before the match but relevant to Djokovic’s drop shot critique), states, “djokovic u razmeni precizan ali nedovoljno jake udarce salje zato mora da jede govna sa dropsotovima koje NE ZNA DA IGRA” (translated: “Djokovic is precise in rallies but sends shots that aren’t strong enough, so he has to eat s*** with drop shots he DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO PLAY”). This suggests a broader sentiment that Djokovic’s drop shots are a weak point, though not specific to the Zverev match.
  • Web Reports on Drop Shot Effectiveness:
    • Web sources emphasize Djokovic’s frequent use of drop shots but don’t always confirm their success rate. For instance, The Athletic notes, “Djokovic is using the drop shot so effectively right now, doing so to earn himself a break point. He’s hit 22 in the match to Zverev’s six,” but this is from earlier in the match (likely third set or earlier) and doesn’t specify how many were successful.
      https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/li...es-quarterfinals-scores-results/IZ8unBPYtiV6/
    • However, a report from www.lequipe.fr mentions a specific instance in the fourth set where “Djokovic avait touché toutes les lignes sur un dernier échange qu'il galvaude finalement d'une amortie manquée” (translated: “Djokovic had hit all the lines in a final exchange that he ultimately squandered with a missed drop shot”). This directly supports your view of a failed drop shot in the fourth set.
    • The Independent also notes a moment where “Djokovic goes to the drop shot and puts away the volley,” but this implies a successful drop shot followed by a volley, not a consistent success rate. No specific failures are detailed in the fourth set beyond the single instance above.
 
DariaGT said:
Totally agree but apart from fitness and recovery
this match shows how slow the past gen tennis is
Even Zev like Meds is the past gen level of trolling
their shots are too slow.

This wont cut it versus the power of SinRaz
Also Djockold seems slow rusty and impatient
much like when he fist lost to Raz at Wimby
missing easy backhands is fatal.

Well done but he is finnish for next match
cant stop the power tennis we have been
waiting for so long.
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You see the truth Djokovic is so hyped up after this match.
 
Serve&Bash said:
Basically if you drop shot Zverev on the forehand side even if he chases it down he doesn’t seem to have the ability to punish you with it. Very sad for a player at his level and with his athleticism. On match point he actually tried to be aggressive with it and missed by a mile. He shoulda went for another dink reply and taking his chances with his awful overhead.
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It's why I fear for Djokovic on Friday. Against sinner there are no get out jail for free areas to go at like there is at Zverev. Zverev FH is hopeless and I don't mind him messing up on it as its so bad. It is his tactics that bother me. Even a 12 year old knows on cold clay at night when conditions are so slow u can't stand that far back
 
DariaGT said:
Totally agree but apart from fitness and recovery
this match shows how slow the past gen tennis is
Even Zev like Meds is the past gen level of trolling
their shots are too slow.

This wont cut it versus the power of SinRaz
Also Djockold seems slow rusty and impatient
much like when he fist lost to Raz at Wimby
missing easy backhands is fatal.

Well done but he is finnish for next match
cant stop the power tennis we have been
waiting for so long.
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Yes sadly I think Friday will be two straight set semi finals so will be a bit anti climatic probably but Sunday I think will be a match gl for the ages and perhaps the best match since W2008 final. Sinner and Alcaraz are primed you can feel it.
 
The old man played like an old man in the 1st set. Thereafter he was for large parts the more active, the more creative player. The Zedrot had very little on offer, besides his usual uninspired and passive pushing. #ABZ says: Thx Novak!
 
Z needs a real coach. Djokovic murdered him with drop shots. Every long rally he'd end it with a dropshot and Zverev would fumble seeing how he was always in a defensive position. Good match by Djokovic. Never lost serve after the first game.
 
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