Dane_is_Finnish_OJ
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How do you know it was something “woke”? Define woke.
2025 Roland Garros QF - Djokovic vs Zverev
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nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Woke is something that you don't or preaching others while not following. Eg a celebrity preaching to stop oil use flying private jet
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
I would say rg is his worst. USO he is just unlucky to be unfit.
UnderArmServeOP
Hall of Fame
what you're trying to do rn
DariaGT
Hall of Fame
yep cognitive dissonance is the real and endless epidemic
Dane_is_Finnish_OJ
Legend
That’s not the definition of woke. That’s just hypocrisy. Wokeness is a bit more complicated. Try again.
Dane_is_Finnish_OJ
Legend
No, it was a legit question. I have no idea what was going on, and I’m pretty sure the poster didn’t either.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
I don't know. I call hypocrites woke.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
marc45
G.O.A.T.
all due credit to Novak...he's a miracle...but I can't conceive of anything worse in tennis life than being a fan of Zverev...how utterly pathetic was that performance?
I hope he joins Med and Stef and Rublev and whatever leftovers from that gen that are still around on the planet Finland
I hope he joins Med and Stef and Rublev and whatever leftovers from that gen that are still around on the planet Finland
marc45
G.O.A.T.
seriously, why is his father coaching him?....what knowledge does this guy have exactly?...his son has the same game he's always had...I'll give them credit for fixing his serve issues but everything else is the same unimaginative game...heck, his father isn't even the best family member to coach him...what is his brother doing?...he had skills his younger brother doesn't have....Goran is available, Boris is available...if Z doesn't make major changes to his game he'll never win a major
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nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
marc45
G.O.A.T.
I was starting to warm up to Coco but she clearly is heading into SAS hot take territory, at the same loud volume
as I said earlier PMac was all over this match from beforehand...predicted exactly how Zverev would play it, and then afterward called him the most unimaginative player ever
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
She said Djokovic was mentally more unstable than bublik.
Like what? He went 4 hrs vs Nadal in 2009. He was as old as alcaraz
marc45
G.O.A.T.
I don't know what she was trying to say about Novak more likely to be beaten by Sinner but it's better he face him in the semis because of some theory she had called The Pinnacle, where the other players can't deal with his aura
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
I know. She was all over the place.
marc45
G.O.A.T.
she clearly was stressing the nerves of the rest of the set
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
@Djokovic_is_the_best#1 see I told you
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Zverev is the eternal loser (deservedly so) and violent offender. The only place he will ever be best suited for is...
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
You know ball bro. Better than my predictions as per usual
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
Zverev always looks like he is at the level of Slam champions when he plays them except that they win all the important points and he never does - maybe because he does the same thing over and over again from start to finish while they lift up their games when needed and also make adjustments. Zverev’s base game is good, but it seems he has no top gear at the level of what is needed to win Slams.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
I was rooting for this veteran Serb all the way through.You know ball bro. Better than my predictions as per usual
I wanted him to beat Zverev.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
McGradey
Hall of Fame
Probably why he's way better in best of 3. His game can be overwhelming but if you have time to make adjustments as you do in a slam match, he won't respond with a change of his own. He is like an old school video game boss, a big lump who will kill you if you don't figure out how to evade his narrow repertoire of attacks.
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Tennis Fan States63
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
this is why he will never win any major
RSJfan
Legend
One hapless user had Zed as a 90% favourite.
How dare you.
RSJfan
Legend
Wow, the last time an older man reached the semis of Roland-Garros, it was shortly after the May 68 student riots.
Mad.
A French riot looks more like a modern dance.
We talked about this before the match. Djokovic prefers colder conditions and Zverev game becomes ineffective in those cold slow conditions. The argument against Djokovic was that at his age he might not want long physical exchanges but surprisingly he was fresh and full of energy. He still has amazing fitness.
ghostofMecir
Legend
even though I'm not a fan of his nor his fan base, you have to feel happy for him that he played that match and he got that kind of crowd support against an absolute fraud like Zverev.
Winning $2000 off that match also helps
Winning $2000 off that match also helps
RSJfan
Legend
Less than the number of Vamos titles.
ghostofMecir
Legend
Chainz is once again who we have always thought he is.
Moose Malloy
G.O.A.T.
haven't seen these stats tracked before - Novak apparently hit 35 dropshots to Zverev's 12. And Zverev hit 16 overheads to Novak's 1 - Novak hit 24 lobs!
Seems like this tournament has had more dropshots hit than any tournament I can recall(Bublik hit 37 vs Draper per stats on RG website). This is an interesting evolution in claycourt tennis(you didn't see this sort of dropshot frequency in the 80s/90s), its fun to watch.
In the Alcaraz Shelton match Alcaraz had 27 dropshots, Shelton had 19
www.rolandgarros.com
Seems like this tournament has had more dropshots hit than any tournament I can recall(Bublik hit 37 vs Draper per stats on RG website). This is an interesting evolution in claycourt tennis(you didn't see this sort of dropshot frequency in the 80s/90s), its fun to watch.
In the Alcaraz Shelton match Alcaraz had 27 dropshots, Shelton had 19
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Hitman
Bionic Poster
Less than the number of Vamos titles.
Yes, at his worst slam....now tell me how many does Nadal have in AO?
2008, 2009, 2012, 2014, 2017, 2019, 2022
7, that is even worse considering Djokovic has 10 titles there, the gap is still bigger.
The drop shots were key to Novak’s victory last night. Zverev actually played very well, but he had no solution to the drop shots, that Djokovic did perfectly. Only a few ended in the net, most were perfectly executed. Bublik showed the way, I guess.haven't seen these stats tracked before - Novak apparently hit 35 dropshots to Zverev's 12. And Zverev hit 16 overheads to Novak's 1 - Novak hit 24 lobs!
Seems like this tournament has had more dropshots hit than any tournament I can recall(Bublik hit 37 vs Draper per stats on RG website). This is an interesting evolution in claycourt tennis(you didn't see this sort of dropshot frequency in the 80s/90s), its fun to watch.
In the Alcaraz Shelton match Alcaraz had 27 dropshots, Shelton had 19
Quarterfinals Men’s Singles - Roland-Garros 2026 - The official site
Discover the match score Alexander ZVEREV vs. Novak DJOKOVIC, Quarterfinals Men’s Singles at 2025 Roland-Garros. Official result and match detail. The exclusive home of Roland-Garros tennis delivering live scores, schedules, draws, players, news, photos, videos and the most complete coverage of...
Martin J
Hall of Fame
What's the name of this game? Reminds me of some of the versions of Target Renegade but I'm not completely sure. Cool gif af anyway..Knock him out the door......
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
All I'm hearing in my mind now is Nintendo music. What a time. I think that's Double Dragon 2.
Martin J
Hall of Fame
Yeah, it could be DD. I played TG on Amstrad CPC back in the day, the gif was like the blast from the past. Lovely times, arcades/console games, pre-internet life, Pete Sampras...All I'm hearing in my mind now is Nintendo music. What a time. I think that's Double Dragon 2.
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Deleted member 827468
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lol that gif brought a lot of cool memories from childhood days, slice is right, its double dragon 2
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Sometimes I think tennis fans go with emotions far more than statistics. When the game becomes too slow like in rg 2020 or yesterday, Djokovic in his old age always relies on dropshots.
In Roland Garros 2020, when he was playing in dead court, he hit 26 dropshots vs nadal. 26 in 183 pts.
In Roland Garros 2021, Djokovic played just a little under 21 dropshots vs Nadal.
In yesterday match , Djokovic played 35 dropshots vs zverev who camps behind baseline to play effective tennis and has reached 4 rg semis in a row doing that. 35 in 222 pts.
Literally the first thing he said
In Roland Garros 2020, when he was playing in dead court, he hit 26 dropshots vs nadal. 26 in 183 pts.
In Roland Garros 2021, Djokovic played just a little under 21 dropshots vs Nadal.
In yesterday match , Djokovic played 35 dropshots vs zverev who camps behind baseline to play effective tennis and has reached 4 rg semis in a row doing that. 35 in 222 pts.
Literally the first thing he said
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
True , Djokovic has unusual success yesterday because zverev is not as good as Nadal moving forward. But everyone knew that. The fact that djokovic did 26 vs Nadal in 2020 though is clear evidence that this is his go to strategy on slow courts in old age. In fact in 2021 he did the same and won most pts on dropper.
Succession
Professional
So true. Zero top gear, no tactical variety, no general variety, no netgame, no dropshot. He's cooked.
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Tennis Fan States63
Guest
Double Dragon II, Martin J. Originally, Nintendo.....
Martin J
Hall of Fame
Good old 80s
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
My all time favorite Nintendo game
Dilexson
Hall of Fame
leave Meddy out of this!
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
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It’s insane seeing how Djokovic has deliberately modified his game to accommodate his aging body. He’s not trying to play the same game he was five years ago; every match, you can see him calculating in real time *exactly* how much effort he needs to expend to win. Moonballs, drop shots, letting people implode, etc. have all been incorporated into the arsenal with frequency.
It’s insane seeing how Djokovic has deliberately modified his game to accommodate his aging body. He’s not trying to play the same game he was five years ago; every match, you can see him calculating in real time *exactly* how much effort he needs to expend to win. Moonballs, drop shots, letting people implode, etc. have all been incorporated into the arsenal with frequency.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
When 38 year old Djokovic beats a top 3 player like Zverev (who had made 2 of the last 4 Slam finals) it's because Zverev sucks
When 38 year old Federer beat someone like that, it's because he had "once in a lifetime racket talent"
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