2025 Roland Garros SF: (1) Jannik Sinner vs (6) Novak Djokovic

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Martin J said:
This is true, but will Novak have the wheels to play a CC tennis in BO5 against a fit, consistent baseline machine who hits with power and spin off both wings and is actually not a mental midget? I think the age will be the deciding factor in the SF and Sinner will prevail thanks to his youth.

If Novak could employ his forehand as a point ending shot the way Alcaraz did against Sinner in Rome, and be as offensive with it as he possibly could on the dirt, I think that's the approach he should use (his only chance to win this IMO). Can't see him win the baseline battle (regardless of experience, tactics, tennis IQ...), Sinner is just too good for him in that department, at this stage of his career.
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Sure he should flatten out his FH and go for the kill when he can but I still believe bringing Sinner in is a good tactic, I'm not sold on his forecourt game at all, not just his hands but he's way more comfortable moving side to side than forward.
 
Move said:
I sure hope and know its going to be as @Hitman says 'Off The Chain' and even @MichaelNadal might consider this 'Epic' :-)
TTW forum is buzzing in anticipation of this Match for sure, nice to see
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I mean imagine if Novak retired last year or whatever. You could just pencil Sinneraz in the final because the rest of the tour is just terrified or in awe of them at this point.

You know Novak can atleast choose the right tactic, execute it competently and not fumble it at key moments. Even at 38 that sets him apart from 99% of the social media addicted tour today.
 
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Will heavy conditions prevent Sinner from hitting through Novak's defense?

Will Novak be last man standing in the cold Paris night? Novak's fitness is level better than Jannik's. As is his sheer will.
 
dking68 said:
Agreed, and im a Sinner Stan. It's time to end this foolishness. A 38 years old player should be drummed in straights to the ends of this earth.
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Why are people acting like this is a normal 38 year old player lol.

Sinner should win this but Djokovic ain't getting drummed in 3 sets if anybody knows anything about Novak Djokovic as long as he's in form and the old body doesn't break down. If it is a straight set outcome it'll be a competitive 3 sets.
 
junior74 said:
Will heavy conditions prevent Sinner from hitting through Novak's defense?

Will Novak be last man standing in the cold Paris night? Novak's fitness is level better than Jannik's. As is his sheer will.
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time will tell, stay tuned
 
DariaGT said:
What?? He is the greatest tennis player already that is confirmed period

but im sorry are you blind??? their rallies were in slow motion

This was like 2 old dudes trolling and nothing of the speed of shot, execution and footwork of Razsin

much like watching that nightmare chokefest Coria vs Gaudio RG final.

Nole looks slow, tired, impatient and rusty. Those obvious desperate and weak drop shots were pathetic
yet Zevs pathetic FH couldnt put them away even in last point hit it out.

Nole exposes how weak the next gens are that he is still out trolling them to death but no more
he is basically the GATEKEEPER now at 38 finally a replacement for FERRER.
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Do you have the stats for the average groundstroke speeds? At points yesterday both of them were blasting their groundstrokes but because of the heavy conditions it seem like they weren't bunting the ball.
 
So, it is a night match. These two guys are going to have to be ready to grind because no one, not even Sinner is hitting through those slow conditions. Expect lots and lots of lung busting rallies and expect lots of drop shots.

Djokovic will have to summon that ferocious will to win to get through another big match in such slow conditions.
 
Sinner should win but Novak’s best bet is to drag the match out. It probably means Novak would have nothing left for final but to try beat sinner he has to get him involved in a long battle. Alcaraz will be hoping for a long match here.

Sinner has just been cruising past his opponents blasting them off court with his power on his FH, BH, serving, return and elite movement. The match could get away from Djokovic fast if sinner blasts him early. However, if Novak can hang in the rallies, use variety and draw the match out he may make it closer and the Italian might have to grind it out more than just blast through to quick victory.

No one has been able to live with sinner’s power and quick starts. I expect sinner to start better here but we will see if Novak can make a match of it or if only alcaraz can do that in the final again.
 
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Spin Diesel said:
When I look at Sinner's previous rounds and then Djokovic's match against Zverev, I can't see how the serb could win this. He never looked older to me. And Sinner doesn't play as passively as Zverev. Even if this is the italian's worst surface, I don't think Djokovic can come up with a strategy to compensate for the difference in baseline ability they both are able to show right now in BO5. Sinner in 4.
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I mean he was technically younger any other time you saw him before that match.
 
One thing for sure this slam for sinner to win will be much tougher than his last 2 slam wins.

Not his fault but his main rivals either were on other side of draw, lost early and sinner cruised to both titles on his best surface. In this tournament on a worse surface for him and he has to beat the best 2 clay players in the world in a row. Since Nadal fell away/retired, alcaraz and Djokovic been the 2 alpha’s on the clay.

Sinner though is ready and capable of winning this event because it the best he been on clay and his level is good enough to beat both. However, he will be tested first by oldovic and then of course his main rival/nemesis alcaraz.

I think sinner makes final but Djokovic I think can test him. I still have alcaraz the overall favourite but let’s see.
 
Don't fancy Novak's chances that much. on the good side, at least he'll be going in with decent rest and without any issues like he did in the AO SF earlier.
hopefully this ends up a cracker!
 
Sinner has been a wrecking ball. If Djoker beats this version of Sinner, then it will be considered a monstrous win.

2025 Roland Garros for Sinner so far:

Breaks of serve
Sinner 28
Opponents 2

Return points won
Sinner 202
Opponents 85

Bagels dished out
Sinner 3
Opponents 0

Bread sticks dished out
Sinner 3
Opponents 0

Points won
Sinner 478
Opponents 312

Sinner has won 60.5% of his points so far this tourney.

As for overall play, since the beginning of 2024 Cinci, he’s 46-2 while losing only 13 sets along the way(both losses were to Alcaraz). Sinner is losing about 1 set every 4 matches since Cinci.
 
What people seem to forget is how will Sinner do when Djokovic truly tests him over the course of the match. It's not as easy as just Sinner hitting FHs and BHs and Djokovic will just watch him do it. Fitness and everything will come into it, nerves as well.

I think this is closer affair than people make it seem. Djokovic on the parisian clay is a different beast and he will come up with every shot in the book to take advantage, and use his willpower to try and break him down. If Djokovic can take Alcaraz to the absolute limit on clay like he has done he can do it with Sinner as well, no matter how old he is.
 
If you’re 38, have conquered everything there is to conquer in tennis, and your main rivals are all retired, what still fuels the fire? A first-rounder against Tabilo in Monte Carlo or a match like this, a GS semifinal against the so-called “unbeatable,” the new king-in-waiting? This is a chance to remind the world, one more time, that there’s still no one quite like you. This is the kind of battle that keeps Novak grinding day in, day out.
 
zagor said:
Sure he should flatten out his FH and go for the kill when he can but I still believe bringing Sinner in is a good tactic, I'm not sold on his forecourt game at all, not just his hands but he's way more comfortable moving side to side than forward.
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How about Sinner's endurance - we sold on that?

He loses almost all his 4h+ matches IIRC.
 
Spin Diesel said:
But I also saw him after that match.
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NYTennisfan said:
Why are people acting like this is a normal 38 year old player lol.

Sinner should win this but Djokovic ain't getting drummed in 3 sets if anybody knows anything about Novak Djokovic as long as he's in form and the old body doesn't break down. If it is a straight set outcome it'll be a competitive 3 sets.
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He is still 38 at the end of the day. Modern medicine hasn’t made him 10 years younger.

Sinner shouldn’t be an ordinary player either, why are we only applying this rationale to Djokovic?

I swear this narrative exists just to serve as pampering
 
mike danny said:
He is still 38 at the end of the day. Modern medicine hasn’t made him 10 years younger.

Sinner shouldn’t be an ordinary player either, why are we only applying this rationale to Djokovic?

I swear this narrative exists just to serve as pampering
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At this stage of both Sinner and Alcaraz’s career, both HOF players already. They should not be losing to a 38 year old player.
 
dking68 said:
At this stage of both Sinner and Alcaraz’s career, both HOF players already. They should not be losing to a 38 year old player.
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Exactly. It’s their time to assert themselves while Djokovic is making his final stand. It’s the minimum required from them.

Every ATG before them had to overcome an older one, so no exceptions should be made for them
 
mike danny said:
Exactly. It’s their time to assert themselves while Djokovic is making his final stand. It’s the minimum required from them.

Every ATG before them had to overcome an older one, so no exceptions should be made for them
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And it shouldnt be a fight. It should be max 2.5-3 hours, similar to how Fed disposed Andre in the 2005 USO F. Fed loses focus for a set but wins in a comfortable 4 setter, at most.
 
I wonder what strategy Djokovic will try to use in this match.
Against Zverev it was obvious;play a few rally balls and then use the dropshot.
Obviously against Sinner he won't have that many opportunities to use the dropshot as he is a lot more agressive then Zverev.
I'm sure Djokovic will try to serve well and keep it tight;there isn't a lot of data for Sinner since his comeback how he will do when it gets really close in sets.
The only time when it got close he lost the first set in Rome against Alcaraz in the TB.
 
gameovais said:
Do you have the stats for the average groundstroke speeds? At points yesterday both of them were blasting their groundstrokes but because of the heavy conditions it seem like they weren't bunting the ball.
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just by sight its pretty obvious it was the usual troll speed not
at the speed Sinner and Carlitos are wacking, not close at all
The mobility of the younger dudes is night and day as well
 
-NN- said:
How about Sinner's endurance - we sold on that?

He loses almost all his 4h+ matches IIRC.
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With his very late growth limiting heavier loads he lacked for stamina but never for grit. He has a losing record in five sets because he fought on despite a dwindling tank. Guess we will only find out once the match goes that long again.

No doubt he is far better physical shape than a year ago where he had the hip issue and afterwards could not train at all, due to illness, for two weeks right before RG.
 
Rovesciarete said:
With his very late growth limiting heavier loads he lacked for stamina but never for grit. He has a losing record in five sets because he fought on despite a dwindling tank. Guess we will only find out once the match goes that long again.

No doubt he is far better physical shape than a year ago where he had the hip issue and afterwards could not train at all, due to illness, for two weeks right before RG.
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I don’t doubt he’s in better shape than last year, at least cosmetically speaking. But as for grit? What does that even mean? If you don’t have the stamina, your grit doesn’t get a chance to show up. Does he get bonus points for simply not tapping out?
 
Juice4080 said:
I don’t doubt he’s in better shape than last year, at least cosmetically speaking. But as for grit? What does that even mean? If you don’t have the stamina, your grit doesn’t get a chance to show up. Does he get bonus points for simply not tapping out?
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No bonus points for the score but plenty for trying. Going down fighting so hard shows the right spirit to achieve in the long run is alive and kicking. For a youngster the mind leads and the body follows in due time.

Hated and loved the bitter tears after the brutal Altmaier and Zverev losses. Both were key moments on his way to become the player he is today.
 
Rovesciarete said:
No bonus points for the score but plenty for trying. Going down fighting so hard shows the right spirit to achieve in the long run is alive and kicking. For a youngster the mind leads and the body follows in due time.

Hated and loved the bitter tears after the brutal Altmaier and Zverev losses. Both were key moments on his way to become the player he is today.
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