2025 Roland Garros SF - [2] Carlos Alcaraz Garfia (SPN) v/s [08] Lorenzo Musetti (ITA)

[Rosstour]

I hope he is healthy for grass. Want to see if he can take the next step on grass like you think he can. Really need him to find another level. Tennis needs him, was hoping today he could have shown more.

Yeah, same. Although what's funny is that the only level left for him on grass is to win titles. He won the most matches on grass last year of any player which is still wild to me. Lost to TPaul and Djoko. He had already done better at Wimbledon than RG until today lol

 

[Rosstour]

This on the back of a good clay season too.

He has made the SF+ of every big clay event, I think only a handful of players ever have done that

 

[nolefam_2024]

Courier's shrillness and voice-raising and constant "joking" are unsettling. Agassi's monotone allows you to focus on his words and not "this F'ing guy" who sounds like he's a Nadal fan who had a couple drinks

Agassi is too smart for his own sake.

Courier can dumb things down and I like it. Courier was born in Florida

 

[Rosstour]

Agassi is too smart for his own sake.

Courier can dumb things down and I like it. Courier was born in Florida

False modesty (Courier) grates me more than real arrogance (Agassi). Agassi had much more to say about tactics and techniques.

Courier can only kiss butts and talk about Rafa and tries to do Brad Gilbert-Lite, but he can't hide his true nature

 

[FeroBango]

All said and done, not too confident for Sunday with Raz.

 

[Rattie]

Poor shot selection from Alcaraz in set 1, too many u/e’s and was clearly tight. Musetti played extremely well for two sets and Alcaraz let himself down letting two breaks go including when serving for set 2. Having dug in and claimed the TB, Alcaraz felt relieved and relaxed enough to start playing at the level he is capable of. Meanwhile Musetti couldn’t maintain the intensity and the effort caught up with him. Once it was one set all, I fully expected Carlos to start running away with it although I didn’t see the Musetti injury coming.

 

[Rattie]

All said and done, not too confident for Sunday with Raz.

I think he prefers not to be the favourite.

 

[jklos]

Rafa had 3 slams and 9 Masters at 21. Federer had 1 Masters. Federer was nearly 22 before he won his first slam. You are expressing your opinion instead of relying on the basic facts. Rafa was also getting further than the 1st round in slams, and Federer hardly got beyond the first round.

Not sure someone's entire career is based on what they've accomplished before the age of 22.

 

[FeroBango]

Rafa was a raw talent; Federer was not.

Lol

 

[zagor]

Lol

Clayqueen is the best.

Random Fred Rafa wikipedia comparison.

 

[Alcawrath]

and as much as I love Carlos, he's not natty either...

Woah, what's that claim based on?

 

[Sephiroth]

All said and done, not too confident for Sunday with Raz.

I felt like this at Wimbledon 2024, was like, ok, he isn't beating Novak a 2nd time at Wimbledon final. Then he produced his best tennis in the final lol and stomped Egg.

Whereas at RG 2024 I felt confident he was gonna stomp Zverev and turned out to be a patchy 5 setter. It's hard to predict him but he is solid in grand slam finals, any opposition will have to go hell and back to win now.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Yeah, same. Although what's funny is that the only level left for him on grass is to win titles. He won the most matches on grass last year of any player which is still wild to me. Lost to TPaul and Djoko. He had already done better at Wimbledon than RG until today lol

I mean that is where his game is on clay too. He has reached a point he needs to push through soon or he might never do it. Think if he does get that big win against the top dogs he can ride that to the next level.

But at some point he is giving me Dimitrov vibes of not being able to find a way.

 

[sliceroni]

Carlos would rather face Sinner in the final than Nole.

 

[Lleytonstation]

I'm sorry that anyone has to debate someone who thinks fukn Fedr wasn't super talented.

Welcome to TTW, where you have to defend Fed being a top 10 players of all time.

 

[Rosstour]

I mean that is where his game is on clay too. He has reached a point he needs to push through soon or he might never do it. Think if he does get that big win against the top dogs he can ride that to the next level.

But at some point he is giving me Dimitrov vibes of not being able to find a way.

I can't argue with this, it's very possible he never gets over the Alcaraz Barrier to win a Slam. But there's entertainment in watching him try.

It feels more like watching pre-2012 Murray to me. I thought he was destined to be "always the bridesmaid". Hopefully Lorenzo will break through like Andeh did

 

[nickp]

Rafael Nadal was 22 years, 1 month, and 3 days old when he won his fifth Grand Slam

 

[Rosstour]

Rafael Nadal was 22 years, 1 month, and 3 days old when he won his fifth Grand Slam

Rafa's only competition then was Federer, and we've all been told he was barely third best of his era

 

[Rattie]

Carlos would rather face Sinner in the final than Nole.

Well, in all likelihood he will get his wish.

 

[nolefam_2024]

If Carlos wins rg again, he would have already achieved atg status.

5 slams, 5-0 in finals
A slam on each surface hard clay grass
Back to back rg and back to back wimby titles
All clay big titles completed

I would say he would be on Andy Murray career level . 6 and he is ahead..

 

[clayqueen]

Not sure someone's entire career is based on what they've accomplished before the age of 22.

I'm just saying that Federer wasn't a raw talent as some claim.

 

[Shroud]

Everyone knows 1 handers can’t win on clay anyhow…

 

[nolefam_2024]

Everyone knows 1 handers can’t win on clay anyhow…

Tsitsipas has 3 mc titles.

 

[RS]

Carlos would rather face Sinner in the final than Nole.

For whatever reason Djokovic on clay seems to be his worst matchup.

 

[zagor]

For whatever reason Djokovic on clay seems to be his worst matchup.

Because he's a dummy and Novak is smart : )

I mean simplifying it, but in essence it's true.

 

[Winners or Errors]

Had to step away. What happened to Musetti?

 

[HazBeen18]

I don't care what Seles did. I'm just demonstrating that it's a myth that Federer was supremely talented.

According to whom? Top players? Rafa fans? Novak fans? Ask any of the players who played against him, and they will ALL say Roger was "supremely talented." If he isn't, who is? Roger's issues (and he had a few) had nothing to do with the fact that the guy was one of the most talented players who have ever played the game.

 

[Rosstour]

Had to step away. What happened to Musetti?

Looked like he pulled something sometime in the second set and it was one-way traffic after that

 

[Incognito]

False modesty (Courier) grates me more than real arrogance (Agassi). Agassi had much more to say about tactics and techniques.

Courier can only kiss butts and talk about Rafa and tries to do Brad Gilbert-Lite, but he can't hide his true nature

Yeah, Courier has always been a *********.

 

[Rosstour]

Yeah, Courier has always been a *********.

He's interrupting everyone up there. What a cawk

 

[Rattie]

Yeah, Courier has always been a *********.

Well I prefer him as a commentator to Mac, who I was a fan of.

 

[Winners or Errors]

Looked like he pulled something sometime in the second set and it was one-way traffic after that

Bummer. Good match for the first two sets.

 

[FeroBango]

I felt like this at Wimbledon 2024, was like, ok, he isn't beating Novak a 2nd time at Wimbledon final. Then he produced his best tennis in the final lol and stomped Egg.

Whereas at RG 2024 I felt confident he was gonna stomp Zverev and turned out to be a patchy 5 setter. It's hard to predict him but he is solid in grand slam finals, any opposition will have to go hell and back to win now.

This my dear friend is what our great ancestors deemed the Carlos Alcaraz experience.

 

[Rattie]

This my dear friend is what our great ancestors deemed the Carlos Alcaraz experience.

I have tickets for Centre Court at WB on the opening Monday. Fortunately I was able to choose which day in the small window I had before tickets disappeared; I wanted and chose that day so I could see Carlos live! So he had better stay healthy #AlcarazExperience

 

[Shroud]

Tsitsipas has 3 mc titles.

Good point. Everyone knows 1 handers can’t win the French anyhow.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Clayqueen is the best.

Random Fred Rafa wikipedia comparison.

One of many reasons why I put her on my ignore list years ago.

 

[Martin J]

One of many reasons why I put her on my ignore list years ago.

Lol, quite a long and interesting ignore list. 6-1 6-3 6-0 and The Dark Knight were by far the most obnoxious ones imo, though it was more than 10 years ago, was probably more sensitive back in the day lol

 

[Enceladus]

agassi also says he never wears underwear while playing tennis

This is already known from his book Open (2009).

 

[Rattie]

Looked like he pulled something sometime in the second set and it was one-way traffic after that

He didn’t slow down until the 3rd set. His movement was fine in set 2.

 

[FeroBango]

I have tickets for Centre Court at WB on the opening Monday. Fortunately I was able to choose which day in the small window I had before tickets disappeared; I wanted and chose that day so I could see Carlos live! So he had better stay healthy #AlcarazExperience

I envy you. I don't even have to say this but have fun!

 

[flyingboris]

Mozzarella >>Manchego

Reading through this thread post-match I'm really enjoying the culinary analogies

 

[tennisjedi]

delete post.

 

[Drighiz]

We've been robbed of a great match. Gutted.

 

[Rafa4LifeEver]

First 3 points in set 2 TB were crucial.
Musetti just gave up afterwards & Alcaraz opened his shoulders.

 

[Rattie]

I envy you. I don't even have to say this but have fun!

Thank you. I will do my best

 

[ojo rojo]

Reading through this thread post-match I'm really enjoying the culinary analogies

Sometimes it’s nice to feel like a kid quietly playing with the packaging whilst everybody else is fighting over the toy

 

[TennisGrandpA]

Dude this is the SF of a major. He made it further than "alpha" players like Draper, Fils, Fonseca and Rune

lol never rated those clowns , what you’re on about

 

[Rosstour]

lol never rated those clowns , what you’re on about

Maybe not you but TTW for sure. I know you only have eyes for Sinner

 

[TennisGrandpA]

@Djokovic_is_the_best#1 feels sad to see your idol losing continuously against new king , he should retire now @Poisoned Slice change your dp now

 

[Poisoned Slice]

@Djokovic_is_the_best#1 feels sad to see your idol losing continuously against new king , he should retire now @Poisoned Slice change your dp now

Say please.