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more likely iga would win that possible final vs gauff yesterday
2025 Roland Garros Women's Final - (1) Aryna Sabalenka v (2) Coco Gauff
- Thread starter Aussie Darcy
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TennisXpert@2023
Semi-Pro
Nah, women's matches weren't in primetime due the usual prejudices just like only wanting a player of certain persuasion to win. How does it feel to see Sabs brainless game fail twice against players of a certain persuasion?
TennisXpert@2023
Semi-Pro
Nobody cared about Iga vs Gauff matchup until Sabs lost to Gauff. Coincidence I think not.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Lol, you know the real reason why they weren't in primetime and it was them being women, not a certain persuasion.
The ladies unfortunately have to deliver a real high standard to prove they can stay because all the calls right now are for them to be separated or demoted or paid less. And that slam final didn't help one bit.
ONE HUNDRED unforced errors? Even I hated watching it and I so badly want this to remain but fear the world is shifting to kicking women out of slams.
Because we know we will hear how they get paid the same as the winner of Sinner v Alcaraz tonight. For 100 unforced errors?
intrepidish
Hall of Fame
As I told you before, the main person refusing to give the women their due here, just like the neanderthals, is you.
Most of the rest of us simply saw a dramatic match with difficult conditions in which an amazing defender stymied a great offensive player.
TennisXpert@2023
Semi-Pro
Spin, Spin, Spin. You Sabs deserve each other. Fail at the AO and FO. Bash, Bash with no plan B.
TennisXpert@2023
Semi-Pro
It's just spin to save face because Sabs was handed the trophy before the match at both the AO and FO.
Bill Lobsalot
Hall of Fame
There were 89 unforced errors in the three set Sinner/Djokovic match.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
So true. Not triple digits for unforced errors hey? And they had 79 winners! And just 2 double faults. Decent tennis.
That final though? 100 unforced errors to 67 winners and yeah as mentioned. FOURTEEN double faults. Not decent tennis.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
True; Sabs does bash her way and chokes. She didn't deserve to win. Gauff I guess is smarter because her game is just to wait for the opponents errors instead of winning it herself. But she'll nearly choke and serve a billion double faults and errors herself and almost gift it back. Happened against Keys and again against Sabalenka.
intrepidish
Hall of Fame
It's pretty amazing that this is all you can see and think of yourself as defending women's tennis.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
I'm not defending last nights match. Women's tennis deserves better than that. It was ugly, it wasn't pretty, the stats were heinous.
That doesn't mean I don't like women's tennis, I want better from it and it's been so good lately. But that slam final was awful. That doesn't make me a neanderthal. If you think 100 unforced errors in a slam final between #1 v #2 is good then ok.
I've already seen the headlines calling it a bad match.
Stick your head in the sand and defend 100 unforced errors and 14 double faults.
Bill Lobsalot
Hall of Fame
The inconsistent bounce of the clay. the slipping and sliding, the pressure of a slam, the crowd making noise as you serve.
There's really no such thing as an "unforced error" when there's somebody across the net from you hitting another ball back.
Coco is 6 and 5 against Sabs now. If anyone doesn't think she has an idea how to play this woman, that other players dont they are freaking high. She has the ability to frustrate Sabs and cause massive amounts of unforced errors. It's literally right there in the stats. She knows some days she will get smoked off the court. But she is always going to go out there and give 110 percent, and that attitude and her athletic ability gives her so far the edge over Sabs. And she is 6 years younger, so this head to head is going to go even more her way.
intrepidish
Hall of Fame
Very few people care about stats to the exclusion of everything else in tennis and for good reason; there are very dramatic matches with supposedly bad stats and vice versa.
You don't want to see yourself this way but you're posting exactly like neanderthals about women's tennis and are refusing to grasp what happened on court.
In tough conditions, an amazing defender clawed her way back into the match, found solutions and beat a top player who seems to think she is entitled to slams.
You didn't rate Gauff when I brought her up as a very top contender before RG and you thought she'd get wiped out in this match in straight sets.
Sour, sour and sour.
It's akin to the soccer fan saying my team had 65 percent possession and 10 shots and the other team had 35 percent possession and 5 shots therefore my team should have won. Thats not how sports are decided.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
yeah, men's final so far W/UE
Sinner 14/28
Alcaraz 15/34
Both are below Sabalenka %
Sabalenka 37/70
Gauff 30/30
Both are enjoyable matches.
ScottleeSV
Hall of Fame
I loved the final. The drama is more inportant than the stats. I'd rather watch Leyton Orient and Swindon play a 3-3 draw than Barcelona beat Real Madrid 3-0.
A couple of extra things about the stats.. . it was frigging windy out there. And also, you have to risk double faults against Sabalenka because she tries to destroy the tennis ball for an instant winner. Anything that just plops in the box and you're dead
A couple of extra things about the stats.. . it was frigging windy out there. And also, you have to risk double faults against Sabalenka because she tries to destroy the tennis ball for an instant winner. Anything that just plops in the box and you're dead
robyrolfo
Hall of Fame
If people can't see this simple truth, they are deluding themselves.
I think everyone posting in here likes women's tennis at the very least, and just as likely loves women's tennis. But this looks bad. The trend of big bashers either hitting their shots and blowing someone off the court, or missing their shots and making a boatload of errors isn't great for the sport.
People loved Graf and Navratilova because they played beautiful tennis. People love Muchova matches because she is a breath of fresh air. People miss Ash Barty because she actually knew what variety was and could serve well.
Huh? What on earth are you talking about?
Did you actually watch? There was one point in the first set where Gauff caught a line with her shot, then hit a net chord, then another net chord, and finally ended the point by finding another line. THAT is what scrambled Sabalenka's brain more than anything.
Go back and watch match point. Watch what happened (Gauff shanking, catching a line, and Sabalenka barely getting it back over because she was shocked Gauff's ball stayed in). Nothing frustrates a player more than perceived luck/lucky shots from an opponent.
Exactly. Gauff regularly chokes on serve and in big moments. But when she doesn't choke is when she is scrambling on defense, because you can't really choke in those moments. You are supposed to lose the point, so you have nothing to choke away. THAT is why Gauff does well in certain situations. Desperate defending is basically choke free. You don't have time to think.
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