2025 Rolex Monte-Carlo Masters ATP 1000 - Discussion Thread

Who wins the 2025 Rolex Monte Carlo Masters?

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At this point I'm satisfied with the tournament.

Whoever wins tomorrow will deserve it. However, as an spaniard and fan of Carlos, I think it would mean much more to Lorenzo than to Carlos. As a 1hbher myself, hope the best for the italian <3
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Djokovic counterpunching is not even 50% as much as musetti

You must be thinking of ANDY MURRAY and his failures .
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Not saying as much, but Djoko is known mostly as an offensive counterpuncher. He's not primarily a first-strike player although obviously he can do that.
 
Rosstour said:
Yeah, clay is grueling to play on, even more grueling to watch. I really don't like the MC on TV, the courts are dark and the ball is hard to see.
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It's not just because it's clay. They set the camera against the sun direction (at least in the afternoon). As a result, the court seems brighter than the ball. This happens also in Cincinnati. Genius video experts doing the camera setting(y)(y)(y).
 
TheSlicer said:
This place is full of fuken idiots, two players playing an amazing level and fighting till the end in a tight high level match and people talking about choke jobs and low level, omg what a joke of a tennis fanbase
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Congratulations, man!! Your boy is back in form and is red hot favourite to win Mc, hope you stick around here for some time.
 
Winners or Errors said:
Pretty smooth win for Alcaraz.
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Yah man, good job to get it done in straights. ADF played well, made a match of it.
Enjoyed the 2nd sf, what belief and heart shown by Musetti, not giving in and willing to fight it out. Excellent stuff. Whilst I enjoy LM's game and am pleased he won for that reason, felt sorry for ADM who also fought for the chance to play the final.
Looking forward to seeing Carlitos and Lorenzo do battle. Hope it's a cracking finals match.
 
Musetti becomes just the 3rd Italian player to make the final of Monte Carlo in the Open Era. The previous finalists, Pietrangeli (1968) and Fognini (2019) both won the title. Can Musetti follow in their footsteps?
 
Mainad said:
Musetti becomes just the 3rd Italian player to make the final of Monte Carlo in the Open Era. The previous finalists, Pietrangeli (1968) and Fognini (2019) both won the title. Can Musetti follow in their footsteps?
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Well, look at that! Moose is halfway there.
 
Rosstour said:
... Either he has a fitness issue or this is like a coping mechanism he uses when a match gets away from him.
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Same exact question. All I really wanted before the final was for Musetti to put in a solid and complete effort from start to finish. And we unfortunately didn't get that. We got him failing to put in another complete performance (win or lose) on a big occasion.

The first set got my hopes up... not necessarily for a win, but for a full match, even if he lost. That we didn't get that, in my opinion, negates all the good work he did to reach the final in the first place.
 
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robyrolfo said:
Same exactly question. All I really wanted before the final was for Musetti to put in a solid and complete effort from start to finish. And we unfortunately didn't get that. We got him failing to put in another complete performance (win or lose) on a big occasion.

The first set got my hopes up... not necessarily for a win, but for a full match, even if he lost. That we didn't get that, in my opinion, negates all the good work he did to reach the final in the first place.
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Not sure it totally negates it, but I'm kinda thinking this is a little bit of a mental thing. I don't want to accuse anyone of faking an injury, but they seem to come when he's down big
 
Rosstour said:
Not sure it totally negates it, but I'm kinda thinking this is a little bit of a mental thing. I don't want to accuse anyone of faking an injury, but they seem to come when he's down big
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Yes, maybe totally negating it is a stretch, but who will trust him in another big match? And can he even trust himself?

As for the injury, I don't know how real and or severe it was, but his reaction still left me disappointed. I'm glad he didn't retire, but he really didn't continue to play at all. He was just smacking balls around/out in order to get it over with.

I realize some injuries are so bad that you can't really do anything, but it wasn't like he was just going for winners whenever possible, it was like he was blasting balls that had absolutely no chance of landing in. Not good.
 
Rosstour said:
Not sure it totally negates it, but I'm kinda thinking this is a little bit of a mental thing. I don't want to accuse anyone of faking an injury, but they seem to come when he's down big
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robyrolfo said:
Yes, maybe totally negating it is a stretch, but who will trust him in another big match? And can he even trust himself?

As for the injury, I don't know how real and or severe it was, but his reaction still left me disappointed. I'm glad he didn't retire, but he really didn't continue to play at all. He was just smacking balls around/out in order to get it over with.

I realize some injuries are so bad that you can't really do anything, but it wasn't like he was just going for winners whenever possible, it was like he was blasting balls that had absolutely no chance of landing in. Not good.
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I don't know. Feel like Moose fans should be ecstatic with his performance in Monte Carlo. Gave Carlitos a real scare, beat some good players, made the final.

Yes, it all crashed in the third set, but to get that far is a big step forward for him.
 
Aabye5 said:
I don't know. Feel like Moose fans should be ecstatic with his performance in Monte Carlo. Gave Carlitos a real scare, beat some good players, made the final.

Yes, it all crashed in the third set, but to get that far is a big step forward for him.
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I see it both ways, both are true.
 
Aabye5 said:
I don't know. Feel like Moose fans should be ecstatic with his performance in Monte Carlo. Gave Carlitos a real scare, beat some good players, made the final.

Yes, it all crashed in the third set, but to get that far is a big step forward for him.
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Yes, I would still rather be rooting for Musetti and see him lose 10 straight matches playing beautiful tennis, than rooting for Cam Norrie and see him winning 10 straight with ugly, boring tennis.

But we have been in this situation for a few years now. Musetti has long been capable of brilliant flashes, but now it's time to consolidate a little. Yesterday was a great opportunity. Beating Alcaraz on clay would have done wonders for his future prospects. Maybe that one set helps, or maybe not...
 
robyrolfo said:
Yes, I would still rather be rooting for Musetti and see him lose 10 straight matches playing beautiful tennis, than rooting for Cam Norrie and see him winning 10 straight with ugly, boring tennis.

But we have been in this situation for a few years now. Musetti has long been capable of brilliant flashes, but now it's time to consolidate a little. Yesterday was a great opportunity. Beating Alcaraz on clay would have done wonders for his future prospects. Maybe that one set helps, or maybe not...
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Agree.

Thought this MC would've more meaningful for a M1000s contender than for a well-estalibshed top level player.

At the end, If it was for an injury, one could consider that taking 1 set while healthy was not a bad performance at all. It's not a win, but still.
 
robyrolfo said:
Yes, I would still rather be rooting for Musetti and see him lose 10 straight matches playing beautiful tennis, than rooting for Cam Norrie and see him winning 10 straight with ugly, boring tennis.

But we have been in this situation for a few years now. Musetti has long been capable of brilliant flashes, but now it's time to consolidate a little. Yesterday was a great opportunity. Beating Alcaraz on clay would have done wonders for his future prospects. Maybe that one set helps, or maybe not...
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But not really...he broke the semifinal barrier, he beat Stef. Those are steps forward. I think everybody always expects Alcraz leaps forward, but those are very unlikely. Even Sinner took a while to evolve.
 
ppma said:
Agree.

Thought this MC would've more meaningful for a M1000s contender than for a well-estalibshed top level player.

At the end, If it was for an injury, one could consider that taking 1 set while healthy was not a bad performance at all. It's not a win, but still.
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Agree almost completely...

But, and not to belabor the point, even a legitimate injury is going to do some mental damage. He will be thinking, 'why always me?', and in big matches he will be waiting for something bad to happen.

Aabye5 said:
But not really...he broke the semifinal barrier, he beat Stef. Those are steps forward. I think everybody always expects Alcraz leaps forward, but those are very unlikely. Even Sinner took a while to evolve.
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See above. Normally I would say yes, but he has a particular track record. After being up two sets to love in that Djokovic match, and then getting completely destroyed, this type of thing was maybe the worst case scenario.

Honestly, if he lost 6-7, 6-7 to Alcaraz in two tiebreaks, that would have been better for his head than this.
 
robyrolfo said:
Agree almost completely...

But, and not to belabor the point, even a legitimate injury is going to do some mental damage. He will be thinking, 'why always me?', and in big matches he will be waiting for something bad to happen.


See above. Normally I would say yes, but he has a particular track record. After being up two sets to love in that Djokovic match, and then getting completely destroyed, this type of thing was maybe the worst case scenario.

Honestly, if he lost 6-7, 6-7 to Alcaraz in two tiebreaks, that would have been better for his head than this.
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Changing the way you think about a loss is one of the hardest things to do in tennis. But it is a bit of a choice.
 
good that lorenzo the magnificent won today, his last eight matches that went three sets ended up with the winner losing first set, 'd like to see whether this trend is gonna be continued in his next three-setter,
 
Fonseca's forehand could become the weapon of destruction of world tennis in the next 10 years, just like Del Potro's when he hits it from a standing position it is an unstoppable shot, on the contrary when he is forced to hit it in motion it is still very faulty.
On the other hand he still has a lot to work on his backhand, at the moment his backhand is still at sidereal distances from those of Sinner, Djokovic, Zverev, Medvedev, in short the best interpreters of the fundamental among those still active.
The discrepancy between Fonseca's forehand and backhand seems more evident to me than it might have seemed a few months ago.

In any case he lost a first set that he should have won among the many break points he had and also the two set points in the tiebreak.
Let's see if he will now suffer a psychological backlash, certainly Paul is the classic veteran who doesn't give you anything.
If Fonseca wants to win this match he will have to go and take it by force.
 
The elephant in the room here is want has Murray brought to the table. I know people will say Novaks age etc etc, but if Novak was getting results now, we would hear nonstop how Murray has played a part, so I do think it’s fair to question what he’s actually brought to the table.
 
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