TennisGrandpA
Legend
Haha true, it can be frustrating for his fans , thank god Sinner is consistently good lol
2025 Rome Open ATP M1000 QF -[3] Carlos Alcaraz Garfia (SPN) v/s [5] Jack Alexander Draper (Great Britain)
Haha true, it can be frustrating for his fans , thank god Sinner is consistently good lol
Fedforever
Hall of Fame
So all those threads about how Carlos is finished and he's now won one Masters, lost in a Final and reached the semis of another Masters?
We should all be so crap.
We should all be so crap.
Incognito
Legend
22 year old Alacaraz vs 22 year old Nadal, 10 matches on clay, best of 5. Who will dominate?
@RS @abmk @The_Order @Hitman @MichaelNadal
7-3 Nadal, would be a fair assessment?
@RS @abmk @The_Order @Hitman @MichaelNadal
7-3 Nadal, would be a fair assessment?
jl809
Legend
10-0 to Nadal, 30-0 in sets, and I don’t think anyone would seriously disagree based on what we’ve seen over the past 3 years
dking68
G.O.A.T.
lol 10-0
dking68
G.O.A.T.
What do you predict for him at Rome and RG?
dking68
G.O.A.T.
Based on how Draper is playing, he’s going to be the fourth seed by Wimbledon. I think they can meet in the SF
Racquet_smash
Hall of Fame
10-0 Nadal lol
Hitman
Bionic Poster
You do know you are talking about Nadal RG 2008 yes?
jl809
Legend
Based on last year’s Wimbledon and what I saw today, I’d be concerned about Draper’s mentality, not his tennis, if he faced Alcaraz at Wimbledon this year. He handled the pressure so badly vs Norrie last year, and he was hilariously un-clutch today which might sit in the back of his mind.
That being said he was also looking pretty gassed today so I don’t know how much that played a part on big points. And who knows, maybe Alcaraz ends up like prime Federer where having the crowd on his opponent’s side for once might mess him up
That being said he was also looking pretty gassed today so I don’t know how much that played a part on big points. And who knows, maybe Alcaraz ends up like prime Federer where having the crowd on his opponent’s side for once might mess him up
Yeah, Carlos playing his C game is having a more consistent clay season than anyone else. Not a bad spot to be in, all things considered. Though I hope he can pick the level up come Roland Garros.
TennisGrandpA
Legend
Yes but imo hypotheticals are useless , any player develop tactics , style , game to counter his contemporary rivals , Carlos or any champion would be a different player if generation are changed. Hell even Rafa would be a different player if he started his peak now.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
This is true
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ALCARAZnoMERCY
Guest
Alcaraz won the 2nd Set 6-0 in their 2025 Indian Wells meeting, and Draper retired in their 2025 AO meeting...
So Draper really isn't man enough for this "rivalry"
Slams are where 99.9% of the tour wets the bed !!
So Draper really isn't man enough for this "rivalry"
Alcaraz doesn't need to pick his level up at Roland Garros at all, he's unbeatable at Roland Garros (and Wimbledon), and has won his last TWELVE 5-setters.
Slams are where 99.9% of the tour wets the bed !!
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curtstead
Professional
Who won that IW match though? Carlos ate a breadstick first set, does that mean he's also not man enough by your own logic?
RAZ obv better. No one is debating that, but this comment is kinda silly lol.
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ALCARAZnoMERCY
Guest
Whereas in 2024 Alcaraz lost to Jarry (at Argentina) and Rublev (at Madrid) and won nothing on clay before Roland Garros... and then beat Sinner/Zverev at Roland Garros !!
Yeah but Indian Wells is the BEST version of Draper, literally the highlight of his entire life, and Alcaraz still won the 2nd Set 6-0.
Draper's best, isn't great.
zill
Legend
Too compact for me. Don't like.
abmk
Bionic Poster
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
Hard for me to see Nadal losing a bo5 to him... unless he has a real bad day.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
He can get to at least the final in both and in contention to win both. I say he wins Rome here and gets to final of French.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
However, he will have it tough against Ruud on clay. That should be a great battle today.
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
The pools there always look so inviting!
Edit: Sorry, wrong thread.
Edit: Sorry, wrong thread.
dking68
G.O.A.T.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Hey man!
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
2008 Rafa was not as strong in BO3 tbh, he could lose a set or a match. It was at RG that he went God mode.. Nadal wouldn’t dare lose a set to tiny
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
For the first time this season, Alcaraz managed to outclutch his opponent throughout the entirety of a match. Look at the points played on serve, massive difference between the two. Look at the breakpoints that Alca faced, he made a first serve 7/8 times despite struggling with a relatively low 1st serve % throughout the match.
dking68
G.O.A.T.
Yes I know and Draper had too much match play and I knew this was gonna happen. I thought it would go 3, but I knew his legs were gonna start feeling it on a physical surface in Rome. That’s why I’m also picking Sinner in 2 to defeat Ruud. Ruud is at a big disadvantage by having his match yesterday coming off the back of a Madrid title.
Racquet_smash
Hall of Fame
That's what i call annihilation
abmk
Bionic Poster
quite a few players worse than Alcaraz on clay got a set vs nadal on clay. and this is over 10 matches.
besides going by your logic, Sinner wouldn't win more than 4 games a set as he is clearly worse than Alcaraz on clay?
Vincent-C
Legend
Isner took Nadal to five at RG 2011..
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