2025 Wimbledon QF - [2] Carlos Alcaraz Garfia (SPN) v/s Cameron Norrie (Great Britain)

[mightyjeditribble]

It scary what Alcaraz could do. He could really put the big 3 numbers in the shade. He that talented the tennis world can be his oyster!

I think it's amazing what cycle we've had the past couple of years. During clay and grass, everyone talks about Alcaraz as the pinnacle of all tennis. Then hard court season comes along and everyone talks about Sinner, and how Alcaraz is struggling. It's as if people only have a couple of months' memory.

I'm an Alcaraz fan and would like to see him get back to #1, win the US Open again, get the career grand slam. But Sinner is still there and not going away, was one point away from the RG title, and is still in this Wimbledon. Both are very, very good. They have some different strengths, but will keep pushing each other to get better and improve where they have weaknesses. Perhaps one of them will get the upper hand in their rivalry, but I think it's more likely that they'll keep competing with each other, and there will be many momentum shifts along the way.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

That wrong-foot volley today, not like Norrie was going to get to it either way, but just as the ball flew past him. The proverbial soul-destroying moment.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

 

[EddieChang]

This is just pity applause for him.

The crowd feels sorry for Norrie for being born such a defective and flawed tennis player. They pity his futility.

Still out there making millions. I wouldn’t feel sorry for him one bit lmao

 

[Krish0608]

If Alcaraz makes quick work of Fritz, he’ll be fresh for the final and the clear favorite

 

[mehdimike]

The only records Djokovic doesn’t take from Fed, alcaraz and sinner will take them instead

I guess the way Sinner and Alcaraz are playing on Hard and Grass respectively, only Nadal's clay records are safe

 

[Djumhur]

Alcaraz is on a higher level than them.
Isn't it obvious to you?

I dont see it. Beating guys like Rublev and Norrie doesnt mean anything to me. Fritz is gonna be the first actual top player for Carlos. And if you see how easily Carlos serve gets broken i think its gonna be 5 sets battle. Fritz has great chance. Even mug Norrie had 5 break point opportunities today. Alcaraz so far hasnt shown anything to suggest he beats Sinner in the final. Against Novak he would slight favourite but it would be more of 50/50

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I guess the way Sinner and Alcaraz are playing on Hard and Grass respectively, only Nadal's clay records are safe

True. Djokovic records at risk too. Hopefully 10 aussie opens stand but still vulnerable. Only Rafa’s clay records safe for sure.

 

[Gut Check]

It's way, way, way too soon to talk about 7 or 8 years into the future. He hasn't even finished this tournament.

Agreed. With a trio of Wimbys under his belt before turning 22, it would have been reasonable to think that Becker was going to rack up bunch more, but that didn't happen.

 

[bullfan]

It was a blink and you missed it match

 

[Alcawrath]

I'm a Rafa fan but already sanguine that in all honesty Carlos has moved the chains. Djokovic fans on here seem sanguine too. We all recognise greatness and Alcaraz is special no doubt. Imagine how he would be if he was a focused as Sinner lol

I keep thinking about this and I'm not so sure. Some athletes, like Djoko and Sinner, need the ultra discipline approach to achieve greatness. However, some athletes aren't built that way. They'll burn out if they are all work and no play. Sabalenka and Iga appear to approach the game differently and it works for both. Sab has to have some fun and levity, Iga is all work. In the NFL, Tom Brady was all work & super regimented and disciplined, while Pat Mahomes has to be creative and have fun. They are successful because they're maximizing who they are instead of trying to be something they aren't. I'm not sure Carlos would make it with a 'Djoko-like' approach to the game. Who knows?

 

[ALCARAZWON]

If Alcaraz makes quick work of Fritz, he’ll be fresh for the final and the clear favorite

But its a miracle there are people who thought Alcaraz wasn't the clear favorite already.
Sinner is such a poor mover on grass, and his shots look so timid compared to Alcaraz.
Roland Garros clay gives Sinner enough time to retrieve, whereas grass really rewards Alcaraz's power.
And Djokovic looked terrible vs. De Minaur, a real pushfest that you can't get away with vs. Alcaraz...

 

[messiahrobins]

I keep thinking about this and I'm not so sure. Some athletes, like Djoko and Sinner, need the ultra discipline approach to achieve greatness. However, some athletes aren't built that way. They'll burn out if they are all work and no play. Sabalenka and Iga appear to approach the game differently and it works for both. Sab has to have some fun and levity, Iga is all work. In the NFL, Tom Brady was all work & super regimented and disciplined, while Pat Mahomes has to be creative and have fun. They are successful because they're maximizing who they are instead of trying to be something they aren't. I'm not sure Carlos would make it with a 'Djoko-like' approach to the game. Who knows?

Yes for now I agree but if Carlos wants a long career the partying will have to stop soon otherwise he will pay a hefty tax I'm his kid 20s

 

[messiahrobins]

It scary what Alcaraz could do. He could really put the big 3 numbers in the shade. He that talented the tennis world can be his oyster!

Well he has literally every shot in the book at an elite level. Has any player had that ?

 

[messiahrobins]

It will be very interesting to follow their H2H. Its probably only a matter of time before Carlo will go deep enough to face Sinner in the HC slams, lets see if Sinner can keep his throne or not...

Said it before I see this rivalry being like Sampras and Courier back in the day. Sampras effectively shut courier down and I think we may see same again here

 

[messiahrobins]

Yeah although im not a fan, you have to love Carlos. His game is very entertaining, i love his aggression, and he is a very likable guy. And yes, he has the same ability as Nole/Rafa to turn matches around, finding a way to win. He already owns grass/clay, HC will be interesting. I think HC will be the surface where his height is a clear disadvantage. His serve will always be attackable. Lets see if he can challenge Sinner for the HC throne!

That serve past two rounds has morphed into prime Sampras. He just seems overnight to have discovered how to hit his spots. Literally overnight lol

 

[messiahrobins]

Facts, haven’t seen him stressed in forever

Even in Paris v Sinner 2 sets down he just looked like...oh well ill do it in 5..its a nice day for tennis anyway

 

[messiahrobins]

Hih? Alcaraz has Fritz and Djokovic in his path. Fritz will likely stretch him to 5 sets and make him tired. Djokovic could do the 1-2 punch and then beat Alcaraz.
Or Alcaraz might have to play 2 consecutive 5 setters to beat Fritz and Djokovic. He is capable of doing that, but not super likely.

Fritz gets two sets off Carlos? I doubt it. At best maybe 1 but I think Carlos will go up a level on Friday

 

[FD3S]

Norrie had a good run (final eight at his home major's nothing to sniff at) but at the same time his form was such that you knew it would come to an end as soon as he ran into one of the top guns. Much like BG when he was an active player, this result was always a matter of 'when' and not 'if'.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Well he has literally every shot in the book at an elite level. Has any player had that ?

Definitely not. The big 3 all had a weakness or 2. This guy doesn’t really have any.

 

[Vincent-C]

But its a miracle there are people who thought Alcaraz wasn't the clear favorite already.
Sinner is such a poor mover on grass, and his shots look so timid compared to Alcaraz.
Roland Garros clay gives Sinner enough time to retrieve, whereas grass really rewards Alcaraz's power.
And Djokovic looked terrible vs. De Minaur, a real pushfest that you can't get away with vs. Alcaraz...

Have to say Shorty looks real comfortable out there. Hoping Fritzi takes him out, though (unlikely).

 

[TennisGrandpA]

True. Djokovic records at risk too. Hopefully 10 aussie opens stand but still vulnerable. Only Rafa’s clay records safe for sure.

10 AO is huge number bro ,relax

 

[Rattie]

Have to say Shorty looks real comfortable out there. Hoping Fritzi takes him out, though (unlikely).

Fritz in the final versus Sinner or Djokovic would make for an underwhelming, one sided dull event like the USO final. No thanks.

 

[TheSlicer]

Hih? Alcaraz has Fritz and Djokovic in his path. Fritz will likely stretch him to 5 sets and make him tired. Djokovic could do the 1-2 punch and then beat Alcaraz.
Or Alcaraz might have to play 2 consecutive 5 setters to beat Fritz and Djokovic. He is capable of doing that, but not super likely.

Fritz has never won a set off alcaraz, are you aware of that? Im not saying it isnt possible, but the way hes playing on grass right now and how bad of a match up he is for fritz dont make it look likely, i dont mind how much fritz has improved agaisnt kachanov or diallo, you just cant expect that is gonna work against alcaraz.

 

[TennisGrandpA]

Fritz in the final versus Sinner or Djokovic would make for an underwhelming, one sided dull event like the USO final. No thanks.

Sinner is so much ahead on Hc that nobody stood a chance against him at USO or AO , he beat Z like a drum who beat Carlos like he was a school kid

 

[TennisGrandpA]

Fritz has never won a set off alcaraz, are you aware of that? Im not saying it isnt possible, but the way hes playing on grass right now and how bad of a match up he is for fritz dont make it look likely, i dont mind how much fritz has improved agaisnt kachanov or diallo, you just cant expect that is gonna work against alcaraz.

Stop being cocky Fritz can beat Anyone in the draw , hopefully he beats your boy

 

[TheSlicer]

Stop being cocky Fritz can beat Anyone in the draw , hopefully he beats your boy

im just stating the truth, im not saying fritz cant beat him, you cant talk about being cocky, that makes you look like the least self aware person on the planet, im just saying that fritz who has never taken a set off alcaraz, is less likely to take him to 5 with alcaraz playing in the form of his life and in a 20 something winning streak, you should worry about shelton first, who has on the other hand, won against sinner in his best surface, and you were posting how he wont take a set, what an hypocrite

 

[TennisGrandpA]

in just stating the truth, im not saying fritz cant beat him, you cant talk about being cocky, that makes you look like the least self aware person on the planet, im just saying that fritz who has never taken a set off alcaraz, is less likely to take him to 5 with alcaraz playing in the form of his life and in a 20 something winning streak, you should worry about shelton first, who has on the other hand, won against sinner in his best surface, and you were posting how he wont take a set, what an hypocrite

Fair enough, I don’t think Fritz will beat your boy and it’s more like Sinner vs Carlos final , may the best man wins

 

[TheSlicer]

Fair enough, I don’t think Fritz will beat your boy and it’s more like Sinner vs Carlos final , may the best man wins

If sinner wins this tournament, it will have a lot of merit, a bit sad the match against dimitrov but what can you do, you have to win 3 sets, if your body cant hold up, you cant deserve the victory

 

[TennisGrandpA]

If sinner wins this tournament, it will have a lot of merit, a bit sad the match against dimitrov but what can you do, you have to win 3 sets, if your body cant hold up, you cant deserve the victory

If Sinner wins Wimbledon then RG final will haunt him for year, he would have been on 3 slam this year and a fed hot favourite for UsO

 

[TheSlicer]

If Sinner wins Wimbledon then RG final will haunt him for year, he would have been on 3 slam this year and a fed hot favourite for UsO

Nah i dont think so, this is sports, he probably just cares that he wont fail in the same situation again, people talk a lot about the mental baggage but i dont think it is that influential in most of the top athletes, specially sinner, good thing about tennis is that every week you have the oportunity to do better, thats why there is a lot of recency bias, things in tennis can change very quickly, thats why i find predictions annoying, because they show they dont really understand the sport, there are more and less likely things, but most of the future is very uncertain.

 

[messiahrobins]

Definitely not. The big 3 all had a weakness or 2. This guy doesn’t really have any.

Well Women perhaps?

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Well Women perhaps?

It might be. You probably on the money. That is one the main off the court distractions for sure.

 

[Tallawah Tennis]

Honestly I'd love to see him do it. When I watch him I feel like I'm getting a second chance at seeing Federer again.

He isn't another Federer I know but I love watching his improvisation and aggressive play, and that's one of the things that made me a Fed fan.

Yah man, ditto for me. Love the dude's game, the variety in his skill-set, the execution of it. Enjoyed seeing the dude playing well, and looking honed. Hope this trend continues.
Norrie did well to get to the qf. He's had a tough time with being off form (injury?) and will no doubt take heart from this run.