2026 Winter Olympics - Milano Cortina

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This is for athletic events discussion; skiing, skating, curling, etc. If you want to go political, start a new thread.

First official event is tomorrow (Wednesday, the 4th), Canada v. Czechia mixed doubles curling.

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spystud said:
We are officially underway.

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thanks, mods can take down other post, I'll put it here, and notify them there

almost afraid to post this here...

Richard Deitsch
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NBC Sports says Mary Carillo will now join Terry Gannon as a host of the Opening Ceremony. Savannah Guthrie, who had been scheduled to host the Opening Ceremony with Gannon, will no longer travel to Milan
 
Figure skating team event begins at 3 am Central on USA Network.

Opening Ceremony at 1 pm Central on NBC.
 
I love acting tough, but a week post rupture, your knee is the size of a watermelon, you have 3 degree mobility, and the only place you squat is the toilet, and it takes you two minutes to get back up because you're on crutches.
 
spystud said:
Ha, I’m sure she’s in slightly better shape than the average internet message board poster. But there’s always that guy, so congrats.
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I am a 39-year-old former professional volleyballer who's had just about every knee injury known to mankind.
Now tell me what qualifies you to be smug with me?
 
The same that qualifies you to call Lindsey & USA skiing liars. You ain’t important, so feel free to put me on ignore, then this thread will never bother you again.
 
There is nothing wrong about "dissembling" so I'm going with the idea that she never had an ACL.

cha cha said:
I love acting tough, but a week post rupture, your knee is the size of a watermelon, you have 3 degree mobility, and the only place you squat is the toilet, and it takes you two minutes to get back up because you're on crutches.
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spystud said:
The same that qualifies you to call Lindsey & USA skiing liars. You ain’t important, so feel free to put me on ignore, then this thread will never bother you again.
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spystud said:
The same that qualifies you to call Lindsey & USA skiing liars. You ain’t important, so feel free to put me on ignore, then this thread will never bother you again.
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Don't be offended, cupcake. You live and you learn. That's why we are here.

I'm a little past my prime to be using myself as an example.
So I asked AI to find some proper sports people.

Typical recovery timeline after a complete ACL rupture

Medical and sports-science sources report that a complete (grade III) ACL tear usually requires surgery and structured rehabilitation, with most elite athletes returning to high-level sport at around 6–12+ months post-injury under normal circumstances. Average return-to-sport timing in studies of elite athletes is: ~6–9 months in some cohorts, often 9–12 months, and in many cases up to a year or more before full competitive return.

Examples of world-class athlete ACL recovery timelines

Zlatan Ibrahimović (soccer)
• Suffered an ACL injury in April 2017, underwent surgery and returned to competitive play around 7–8 months later, scoring goals for his club that season.
• In a separate episode, he played through severe knee issues (including ACL absence) that season before surgery, but official recovery projection after surgery was 7–8 months.

Alexia Putellas (soccer)
• Suffered an ACL tear in July 2022; estimated recovery was 10–12 months before she returned to match action in April–May 2023.

Jordan Morris (soccer)
• Missed a season after an ACL injury; mainstream reporting notes he returned to play competitively about 8 months following rehabilitation and subsequent seasons.

Thomas Davis Sr. (NFL)
• After multiple ACL tears (three in the same knee), Davis returned to NFL play following each reconstruction, illustrating that elite pro athletes can resume competition after multiple ACL injuries over months of rehab each time.

Rebeca Andrade (artistic gymnastics)
• Elite gymnast who tore her ACL three separate times yet returned to compete at World Championships and Olympics; each cycle of ACL injury and return involved months of recovery before achieving elite competition again.

Lydia Lassila (freestyle skiing)
• After an ACL rupture in 2005, she returned to World Cup competition about 16 months later and went on to win medals.

Other high-profile return examples (general ACL)
• Tom Brady (NFL): returned to elite play after ACL and MCL surgery the following season (typically ~9–12+ months).
• Derrick Rose (NBA): missed an entire season after ACL tear, returning the next season after reconstruction (~9–12+ months).

Summary of typical elite athlete ACL recovery ranges (post-surgery)
• ~6–8 months: among faster recoveries in elite soccer (e.g., Ibrahimović).
• ~9–12+ months: common across professional soccer, NFL, NBA, and other pivot-demand sports.
• ~12–16 months: seen in sports like freestyle skiing with complex demands and re-injury prevention focus.
Results demonstrate that a one-week recovery claim after a complete ACL rupture is far outside the documented range for elite athletes, where even unusually fast returns post-surgery occur on the scale of months, not days.



Lindsey & USA skiing are liars. To a nauseatingly silly degree.
 
You are the literal definition of keyboard warrior. An old never-was that is diagnosing a female Olympian’s knee injury from thousands of miles away behind a screen. Sad little man that relies on AI, so I will put you on ignore instead. Apologies for your pathetic life.
 
spystud said:
You are the literal definition of keyboard warrior. An old never-was that is diagnosing a female Olympian’s knee injury from thousands of miles away behind a screen. Sad little man that relies on AI, so I will put you on ignore instead. Apologies for your pathetic life.
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A Talk Tennis Guru, indeed. : - )
 
cha cha said:
Don't be offended, cupcake. You live and you learn. That's why we are here.

I'm a little past my prime to be using myself as an example.
So I asked AI to find some proper sports people.

Typical recovery timeline after a complete ACL rupture

Medical and sports-science sources report that a complete (grade III) ACL tear usually requires surgery and structured rehabilitation, with most elite athletes returning to high-level sport at around 6–12+ months post-injury under normal circumstances. Average return-to-sport timing in studies of elite athletes is: ~6–9 months in some cohorts, often 9–12 months, and in many cases up to a year or more before full competitive return.

Examples of world-class athlete ACL recovery timelines

Zlatan Ibrahimović (soccer)
• Suffered an ACL injury in April 2017, underwent surgery and returned to competitive play around 7–8 months later, scoring goals for his club that season.
• In a separate episode, he played through severe knee issues (including ACL absence) that season before surgery, but official recovery projection after surgery was 7–8 months.

Alexia Putellas (soccer)
• Suffered an ACL tear in July 2022; estimated recovery was 10–12 months before she returned to match action in April–May 2023.

Jordan Morris (soccer)
• Missed a season after an ACL injury; mainstream reporting notes he returned to play competitively about 8 months following rehabilitation and subsequent seasons.

Thomas Davis Sr. (NFL)
• After multiple ACL tears (three in the same knee), Davis returned to NFL play following each reconstruction, illustrating that elite pro athletes can resume competition after multiple ACL injuries over months of rehab each time.

Rebeca Andrade (artistic gymnastics)
• Elite gymnast who tore her ACL three separate times yet returned to compete at World Championships and Olympics; each cycle of ACL injury and return involved months of recovery before achieving elite competition again.

Lydia Lassila (freestyle skiing)
• After an ACL rupture in 2005, she returned to World Cup competition about 16 months later and went on to win medals.

Other high-profile return examples (general ACL)
• Tom Brady (NFL): returned to elite play after ACL and MCL surgery the following season (typically ~9–12+ months).
• Derrick Rose (NBA): missed an entire season after ACL tear, returning the next season after reconstruction (~9–12+ months).

Summary of typical elite athlete ACL recovery ranges (post-surgery)
• ~6–8 months: among faster recoveries in elite soccer (e.g., Ibrahimović).
• ~9–12+ months: common across professional soccer, NFL, NBA, and other pivot-demand sports.
• ~12–16 months: seen in sports like freestyle skiing with complex demands and re-injury prevention focus.
Results demonstrate that a one-week recovery claim after a complete ACL rupture is far outside the documented range for elite athletes, where even unusually fast returns post-surgery occur on the scale of months, not days.



Lindsey & USA skiing are liars. To a nauseatingly silly degree.
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Uummm... I don't think anyone said she is "recovered". She's racing injured. There's a difference.
 
Possible but rare and inadvisable:

While it is technically possible for some individuals to compete with a torn (or "burst") ACL, it is generally not advised, nor does it allow for "normal" competition in sports requiring cutting, pivoting, or sudden changes of direction.
A complete, or "burst," ACL rupture typically leaves the knee unstable, which significantly increases the risk of further, more serious injuries to the cartilage and meniscus.
Here is a breakdown of what competing with a torn ACL entails:

Why "Normal" Competition is Unlikely
  • Instability ("Giving Way"): The ACL controls rotational stability; without it, the knee is likely to buckle during rapid movements.
  • Reduced Performance: Even if an athlete can play, they may not operate at 100% capacity due to pain, swelling, and reduced confidence in the knee.
  • High Risk of Further Damage: Continuing to play on a torn ACL can lead to further damage to the meniscus or articular cartilage, which can result in long-term arthritis.

Exceptions and "Copers"
  • "Copers": A small percentage of people, known as "copers," have surrounding muscles strong enough to provide stability without an ACL, but this is rare and usually not in high-impact sports.
  • Low-Impact Sports: Activities like jogging, straight-line running, cycling, or swimming are more possible without a functioning ACL.
  • Elite Athlete Scenarios: In extreme cases (e.g., skiing at the Olympics), athletes have competed with a torn ACL by heavily relying on bracing, rehabilitation, and compensatory muscle strengthening (e.g., hamstrings), but this is considered highly abnormal and risky.

Recovery and Return to Normal
For most athletes aiming to return to their previous level of competition, surgical reconstruction (ACLR) followed by 9–12 months of rehabilitation is necessary.
If you have a, "burst" ACL injury, it is strongly recommended to consult an orthopaedic specialist rather than trying to play through it, as continued activity can lead to permanent knee damage.

- Gemini
 
Time to see Lindsay Vonn.

Absolute icon of the sporting world. 41 years old and she’s back. I feel like I was a baby watching her in Vancouver, and the devastation in Pyeongchang.
 
LuckyR said:
Uummm... I don't think anyone said she is "recovered". She's racing injured. There's a difference.
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It's completely possible to race without an ACL, especially given the amount of care she has at her disposal.
But that means she's been nursing the injury for quite some time now.

I'm not sure I've made myself completely clear.
I don't give a toss about skiing.
I'll be happy if she succeeds, and I'm absolutely sure she's tough as nails.
I know Ester personally, and she's an epic sportsperson.
I'm sure Lindsay is too.

I called bullsheit on the warrior princes story who's competing two weeks post ACL rupture which is circulating through the world's media. That's comical. Two weeks post rupture, you can't tie your shoelaces, no matter who you are.
 
She's probably ruined the event for the remaining competitors. If she were a horse they would have scratched her before the race.
 
When you see and hear what happened to Vonn you cannot un-see or un-hear it. It was a terrible thing to see and hear live. Hopefully the doctors there needled her up so they could move her safely,
Even before that incident the commentators were going through highlighting every athlete that has already had a knee replacement or reconstruction. It’s a dangerous sport. Here in Australia the rugby league players do ACL’s after having their knees twisted out of alignment but even that didn’t sound like this. The latest is that she has a broken leg on the same leg as her ruptured ACL so she will need two or more surgeries to fix that and possibly close to 2 years of recovery and continues management of swelling - not good,
The worse injuries or scariest injuries in rugby league are the necks where players lose feeling in their bodies only to be told a few days later that they won’t be able to walk again. Over the years the NRL has made the sport safer but that mountain in Cortina looked nasty and dangerous.
 
The most plausible guess we can make is that her knee was not up to the rigours of competition and that she should have not competed.

I don't see courage. I see foolhardiness. Conditions were near perfect even if it is a difficult piste. She did not even make the first time check!

Crocodile said:
When you see and hear what happened to Vonn you cannot un-see or un-hear it. It was a terrible thing to see and hear live. Hopefully the doctors there needled her up so they could move her safely,
Even before that incident the commentators were going through highlighting every athlete that has already had a knee replacement or reconstruction. It’s a dangerous sport. Here in Australia the rugby league players do ACL’s after having their knees twisted out of alignment but even that didn’t sound like this. The latest is that she has a broken leg on the same leg as her ruptured ACL so she will need two or more surgeries to fix that and possibly close to 2 years of recovery and continues management of swelling - not good,
The worse injuries or scariest injuries in rugby league are the necks where players lose feeling in their bodies only to be told a few days later that they won’t be able to walk again. Over the years the NRL has made the sport safer but that mountain in Cortina looked nasty and dangerous.
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Bartelby said:
Vonn just demonstrated you can't compete with a burst ACL.
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Then what did her 11th and 3rd in the training runs on the two prior days demonstrate?

FIS | Alpine Skiing Results - Milano Cortina (ITA) 2025/2026

FIS globally governs skiing and snowboarding and oversees over 7,000 events annually in Alpine, Cross-Country, Ski Jumping, Nordic Combined, Freestyle, Snowboard, and more.
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FIS | Alpine Skiing Results - Milano Cortina (ITA) 2025/2026

FIS globally governs skiing and snowboarding and oversees over 7,000 events annually in Alpine, Cross-Country, Ski Jumping, Nordic Combined, Freestyle, Snowboard, and more.
www.fis-ski.com www.fis-ski.com
(Note that the second day had a diminished field size because the course had to be shortened for weather conditions after the first half of the field ran the full course.)
 
Bartelby said:
She's probably ruined the event for the remaining competitors.
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Doesn't look like that happened.
(And long delays are common in alpine ski racing. Even the "technical" events of SL and GS often have long holds on course, even at far below the elite level.)

Vonn started 13th. The start order protocol is ... complicated.
But after #20, the random element is gone, and it's ordered by seed points.

So within the top 20 starters, for those who went after the long delay for Vonn's helicopter evacuation, going by start position:

FIS | Alpine Skiing Results - Milano Cortina (ITA) 2025/2026

FIS globally governs skiing and snowboarding and oversees over 7,000 events annually in Alpine, Cross-Country, Ski Jumping, Nordic Combined, Freestyle, Snowboard, and more.
www.fis-ski.com www.fis-ski.com
  • #15 took the Bronze
  • #17 tied for 4th
  • #14 finished 11
  • #16 finished 14
  • #20 finished 15
  • #19 finished 16
  • #18 crashed, as shown here:
    ... oh no, wait, that's her crash at Cortina three years ago ... okay, this must be it:
    ... no, that's her crash from last year ... she was at 20 surgeries as of 2023, so perhaps the count is even higher now: https://snowbrains.com/austrias-nin...acture-at-world-cup-in-st-moritz-switzerland/
 
Say Chi Sin Lo said:
It's probably the world feed... but are we tired of the drone noise yet when they use the drone to chase the athletes?
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Watching the women's slopestyle and yeah the drone noise is so annoying.

Eileen Gu just put down a massive run, great score but the Swiss defending champ Gremaud just delivered a great run but not enough to catch Eileen.

It's only the first of 3 runs in this final but!
 
Women’s team combined skiing kicks off in a couple hours with downhill first.

Breezy will run her specialty, while teammate Mikaela Shiffrin handles slalom later.
 
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