21 year old super talent can't win games in 5th set losses, while 33 year old Isner can win 24

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  1. Red Rick

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    Disgust......
     
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    Zverev was injured, no ?
     
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    Took a bad hit to the talent at birth.
     
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    Dunno why everyone disses Z. I have nothing against him.

    I don't find his game too exciting, but don't dislike him either.
     
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    Cos he's an arrogant twat, who thinks beating injured Big 3 players in Master's Finals makes him some kind of big thing when he's far from it.
     
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    Anderson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zverev

    No?
     
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    Atleast Zverev better than the rest of the jokers from gen next
     
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  10. Omega_7000

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    I kinda agree.....I see a ton of upside to Tsitsipas' game.....even more so than Zverev but results speak in the end. Potential means crap until you prove it.
     
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    maybe different PEDs
     
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    You blame Zverev for being arrogant but at the same time claim that someone is capable of reaching a Master final while being injuried ...
     
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    Yes the likes of Novak and Federer are good enough to reach Master's Finals injured, Federer got injurrd in his particular final vs Zverev IIRC.
     
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    No they are not. If you are healthy enough to reach a Master final, which is an event at the pinnacle of a tennis competition than you dont have a serious injury. I think that you dont understand the level at which these guys are playing. That being said, Zverev won plenty of other tournaments to back up his arrogancy.
     
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    This is a load of toss. Yes you can have injuries that don't prevent you from playing but also inhibit your playing level; the ATGs are good enough to get to the latter stages of Master's tournaments even if physically hindered.

    I don't recall Zverev beating a top player in a slam or even reaching a slam semi final, so no, his arrogance is not justified.
     
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    Zed to peak in 30's, no?
     
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    z has won some 5-set matches recently however, he is not the only young guy on the tour, the rest of them is doing even worse than him anyway lol
     
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    They can also be small/nagging injuries that get worse by the time they reach the final. That's pretty much what happened to Fed in Montreal, but he was lucky he was playing pigeons pretty much the whole way through, so he got to the final anyway.
     
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    HAhahaha this greek sissipas is most overrated player I know.. Not even best from -98. Greetings from the great Tiafoe :)
     
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  23. FHtennisman

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    It's not that Zverev is a poor player, far from it - at times in BO3, he's a world class player but the fact that he's lost often to lower ranked players in the 3rd round of slams or even earlier means that you can't take him as a serious contender or take his ranking at face value - at the least, the number 3 should be able to reach slam semis. I think he got to the ranking far too early in his career due to the injuries and withdrawals from all the old top players like Novak, Murray, Stan, Kei and Raonic even though all of them are now at varying stages of their comebacks, Also unfair to call the latter two 'old' - indeed they're just Lost.

    Anyway, yeah Zverev needs to make steady progress in slams to be taken seriously within the next 3-4 years. Even if he performs similarly to Theim where he significantly favours one slam over the others, at least it would signify some element of the greatness he already espouses.
     
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    95% of fans on here have been dissing Zverev's accomplishments since the Rome final last year, so when he makes four more the fraudulent backstory keeps expanding.:D
     
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    I thought this was a Chung thread
     
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    :rolleyes:And yet Fed has one more QF at the same age and had a bad 2002 at the slams. Let's get real here. Pouille made back to back QFs at slams and it didn't mean squat. 3 in the world and soon likely to be 2 (post US Open) is the only real measure. Oh and all of the players named save Murray are little threat to Zverev.;)
     
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    This is a glass half empty crowd. Chung was just lucky.;)
     
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  28. swordtennis

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    Isner is a solid pro. He is a lumbering giant however he has the greatest serve on the planet and he does have solid skills and a fighting heart.
    He deserves props.
     
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  29. a10best

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    Exactly. Once Fed schooled him he has disappeared.
     
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  30. Meles

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    Now you've got it. Don't worry that Chung was injured for the match or has been out injured most of the season.;)

    Now of course imaginary injuries for some players in finals are perfectly fine for the fraudulent set; just keep in mind the glass is always half empty.:oops:
     
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    And long fifth sets.:D
     
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    Were either Fed or Pouille no. 3 in the world when they made their first slam QFs? Precisely. Slam performance is the barometer, it's the measuring stick in tennis and until Zverev starts to improve on that front, in my eyes at least, he won't be a top player. Also we'll see if the veterans return to the top of their game and if they do, whether Zverev will remain in the top 3.
     
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