25th Slam will be a miracle come true for Djokovic, how will he get past Sinner and Alcaraz ?

25th Slam will be a miracle come true for Djokovic, how will he get past Sinner and Alcaraz ?


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Razer

G.O.A.T.
No way can he beat Sinner / Alcaraz even individually, let alone back to back.

Someone else will have to do the dirty work to take them out, Med & Zed will have to step up to the occasion to help Novak.

Djokovic has lost to Alcaraz back to back on Grass and this is back to back loss to SInner in a gap of days....I see very less chance next year, Sinner will turn 24 next year, he will be at his physical peak, Alcaraz is also turning 22 which was the age of Nadal in 2008, that too will be peak.

Good luck beating them next year.
 
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The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
How will he get past them? They’ll have to be in the same half of the draw for starters. He might be able to beat one them, but no way does he beat them back to back. The closest he came to doing that was Winby 2023 and he’s only gotten older and further declined since then.
 
If he gets an easy draw all the way into the finals, with Sinner and Alcaraz both in the other half of the draw (which oddly seems to have been the case for the last several years), it definitely could happen.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
Sinner and Alcaraz will first of all not have to be ranked 1, 2 to even be in same half, if they are the best players in the world then they will be 1,2 and so Novak will have to beat them back to back.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
How will he get past them? They’ll have to be in the same half of the draw for starters. He might be able to beat one them, but no way does he beat them back to back. The closest he came to doing that was Winby 2023 and he’s only gotten older and further declined since then.
They won't be in the same half of they are #1 and #2
 

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
They won't be in the same half of they are #1 and #2
I’m well aware of that. I’m saying for him to win any schlems going forward he’s going to have avoid going through both of them. The best way to do that is for them being in the same half of the draw.
 

The Blond Blur

G.O.A.T.
If he can beat them both back to back what a win it would be .... prob his best win ever... even harder than beat Federer and Nadal back to back.
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_phantom

Hall of Fame
Fitness, that's how.

Sinner and Alcaraz seem more fragile than Djo-37.

Either they would allow him back into the top 2 again soon (which means a walkover to every final for Djo) or one of them would withdraw/retire/lose due to subprime fitness before facing him, and Djo would then catch fire to beat the other guy on a bad day.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Upsets happen. Sinner and Alcaraz could lose before the QFs.

2017 AO, #1 and #2 lost early.

He might have to only deal with one of them instead. We will see what happens.
Federer, and especially Nadal, wrerr much, much younger than Novak is now.
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
No way can he beat Sinner / Alcaraz even individually, let alone back to back.

Someone else will have to do the dirty work to take them out, Med & Zed will have to step up to the occasion to help Novak.

Djokovic has lost to Alcaraz back to back on Grass and this is back to back loss to SInner in a gap of days....I see very less chance next year, Sinner will turn 24 next year, he will be at his physical peak, Alcaraz is also turning 22 which was the age of Nadal in 2008, that too will be peak.

Good luck beating them next year.

He won 3 or his last 4 matches against Alcaraz. Still never lost against him on hard courts. And if Alcaraz can be trashed by Botic Monfils and Machac on the surface, I'd favor Djokovic in a Djokoraz AO match in January.

I'd still favor Djokovic against Sinner on clay and grass. And it'd be 50-50 on night session on the RLA. Let's see what happens if we have a Djoko-Sinner final in Melbourne. (finals are in night conditions, no sun and no wind, much better for Djokovic). I can only hope he will be on the opposite half of the draw in Melbourne.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
Federer, and especially Nadal, wrerr much, much younger than Novak is now.

Thats what I am saying, Federer and Nadal were younger than Novak is now and they were better than Sinner/Alcaraz but NOvak himself was much younger .... today SInner/Alcaraz are much younger to Novak who is old, so to beat them back to back is a bigger mountain to climb for Novak than say US Open 2011 when he could beat Fedal back to back, so if Novak wins AO 2025 beating Sinner/Alcaraz back to back then IMO it is a greater win that USO 2011 in theory ;)
 

GrandSlam24

Semi-Pro
He won 3 or his last 4 matches against Alcaraz. Still never lost against him on hard courts. And if Alcaraz can be trashed by Botic Monfils and Machac on the surface, I'd favor Djokovic in a Djokoraz AO match in January.

I'd still favor Djokovic against Sinner on clay and grass. And it'd be 50-50 on night session on the RLA. Let's see what happens if we have a Djoko-Sinner final in Melbourne. (finals are in night conditions, no sun and no wind, much better for Djokovic). I can only hope he will be on the opposite half of the draw in Melbourne.
He should rather win a few small titles, perhaps in places he has never been before.
The organizers would be delighted. He has enough big titles, but relatively few smaller ones.
These titles are also part of tennis. 104 titles is my goal. But the number 100 seems to be a problem. Stopping at 99 is too hard.
Maybe 100 instead of 103 like the player whose name I keep forgetting. It would be an incredibly cool number!
That way I could accept him as number 3 behind X and Jimmy Connors. But who believes he'll really stop at 100?
 
Time has caught Novak. As it has caught fedrer and nadal. It will be amazing if he can win #25 but highly improbable. Sinner alcaraz are getting better each day .....
For his credit novak still can compete .
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
If he can beat them both back to back what a win it would be .... prob his best win ever... even harder than beat Federer and Nadal back to back.

Not happening, his draws have been power puff for many years else even Z+Med + Carlos would be enough to take him down at this age
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
As long as the body holds up I expect him to win again and it wouldn't be a miracle.

A fit and motivated Djokovic will still sweep the floor with everybody else but a fit and motivated Sincaraz have become almost an insurmountable obstacle for him.
 

ND-13

Legend
A fit and motivated Djokovic will still sweep the floor with everybody else but a fit and motivated Sincaraz have become almost an insurmountable obstacle for him.

It didnt even settle for a year that he is the greatest. This year he is being beaten left, right and center and beaten by emerging talent right on the heels of winning 3 majors in a year has left a sour taste .
 

vex

Legend
No way can he beat Sinner / Alcaraz even individually, let alone back to back.

Someone else will have to do the dirty work to take them out, Med & Zed will have to step up to the occasion to help Novak.

Djokovic has lost to Alcaraz back to back on Grass and this is back to back loss to SInner in a gap of days....I see very less chance next year, Sinner will turn 24 next year, he will be at his physical peak, Alcaraz is also turning 22 which was the age of Nadal in 2008, that too will be peak.

Good luck beating them next year.
Yeah he’s def not beating them back to back. If he can make the finals avoiding one of them in the semis he could win in : or 4 sets. Can’t see him outlasting them like he would in his prime.
 

GrandSlam24

Semi-Pro
The guys are more than 10 years younger than him. 14 and 16 years younger. He can lose any match. It wouldn't matter with that difference. From 35, a tennis player can always lose to people who are 10 or more years younger. That's the rule of thumb.
 

Tano

Hall of Fame
Fitness, that's how.

Sinner and Alcaraz seem more fragile than Djo-37.

Either they would allow him back into the top 2 again soon (which means a walkover to every final for Djo) or one of them would withdraw/retire/lose due to subprime fitness before facing him, and Djo would then catch fire to beat the other guy on a bad day.
It's a joke, right?
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
His best bet would be at Wimbledon with something like the finals opponents he had at 2023 Australian Open.

That run was:
QF - Rublev
SF - Paul
F - GOATsipas

Novak would need some draw destruction to take out Sinner and Alcaraz. Djokovic’s second biggest issue is that the people he could previously rely on to clear draws for him now smell some blood in the water and would fancy their chances against him.

Rather than guys like Zverev, Ruud or Med clearing draws for him, Novak needs to rely on the old guard of Dimitrov, Kachanov, Kyrgios etc etc to clear a path for him - guys who are still potentially very dangerous in Bo5 but have absolutely no conceivable chance to beat Djokovic in a Bo5 final.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
His best bet would be at Wimbledon with something like the finals opponents he had at 2023 Australian Open.

That run was:
QF - Rublev
SF - Paul
F - GOATsipas

Novak would need some draw destruction to take out Sinner and Alcaraz. Djokovic’s second biggest issue is that the people he could previously rely on to clear draws for him now smell some blood in the water and would fancy their chances against him.

Rather than guys like Zverev, Ruud or Med clearing draws for him, Novak needs to rely on the old guard of Dimitrov, Kachanov, Kyrgios etc etc to clear a path for him - guys who are still potentially very dangerous in Bo5 but have absolutely no conceivable chance to beat Djokovic in a Bo5 final.

So Novak should announce a bounty of 1 Million $ of his own money on Sinner/Alcaraz in every Slam in 2025, whoever can beat them directly collects the money from him. This would motivate Kyrgios/Dimitrov/Khacha etc to play out of their skin and take out the threats.

Grass is the best chance now, I agree, HCs look verd now and Clay was never a young man's surface, even Grass never was but at least on Grass weird upsets do happen.
 
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scotus

G.O.A.T.
I would love to see Novak train hard to get his stamina back and beat Alcaraz and Sinner back to back to claim his 25th.
 
This is true. I don’t see it happening. However, I’m just going to enjoy watching Novak play and see if he can win a couple of smaller titles. Winning another slam is extremely unlikely and would be massively against the odds now.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
The guys are more than 10 years younger than him. 14 and 16 years younger. He can lose any match. It wouldn't matter with that difference. From 35, a tennis player can always lose to people who are 10 or more years younger. That's the rule of thumb.

30+ is when you can lose to someone 10 years younger, modern day medicines and weak 90s gens have created this illusion that until 35 you can be in prime but that is not true, at the highest level anything 30 and above is old.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
I would love to see Novak train hard to get his stamina back and beat Alcaraz and Sinner back to back to claim his 25th.
This is true. I don’t see it happening. However, I’m just going to enjoy watching Novak play and see if he can win a couple of smaller titles. Winning another slam is extremely unlikely and would be massively against the odds now.

Like I said, in theory winning a 25th Slam beating Alcaraz+Sinner back to back is tougher than winning US open 2011 beating Federer+Nadal back to back.

If Novak wins this then it will become his greatest win ever.
 
He’ll need others to beat them. That could happen.
more likely for Charles to go early at AO.
i doubt he can offer the sinner.
 

Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
How will he get past them? They’ll have to be in the same half of the draw for starters. He might be able to beat one them, but no way does he beat them back to back. The closest he came to doing that was Winby 2023 and he’s only gotten older and further declined since then.
Sinner & Alcaraz would be 1 & 2 at AO next year, unless Zverev goes on a tear in Paris & Turin.
 

Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
Sinner and Alcaraz will first of all not have to be ranked 1, 2 to even be in same half, if they are the best players in the world then they will be 1,2 and so Novak will have to beat them back to back.
Alcaraz has been vulnerable to early &/or unexpected losses at HC events after Indian Wells 2023, so its highly likely that Novak won't have to face Alcaraz & Sinner b2b; mostly just the juiced carrot alone.
 
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